Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on April 30, 2026, 03:43:57 PM

Quote from: King Txec on April 30, 2026, 03:41:25 PMWe should be encouraging people, not limiting based on an arbitrary number like age.

Of course you'd say that, Methuselah

(for legal reasons, this is a joke, Txec is pretty much my age)

-Txec R

Lol, that was a good one, Miestra.

I have mentioned this in responding to Ian. Serving in the Ziu is just one way of participation among many many other opportunities for involvement in politics. I have criticized it in the past but one benefit of our politics-heavy culture is the widespread opportunities for participation. Parliamentary service should call for a higher standard.

Quote from: King Txec on April 30, 2026, 03:41:25 PMWe should be encouraging people, not limiting based on an arbitrary number like age.

Of course you'd say that, Methuselah

(for legal reasons, this is a joke, Txec is pretty much my age)

One of the things that makes Talossa fun and unique is the fact that new citizens can just jump on in and legislate or do practically anything they want to without worrying that someone is going to say "hey, you're too young." I would not be in favor of disallowing our younger citizens the opportunity to join the Cosa, just like I'm not really in favor of an upper age limit also. We should be encouraging people, not limiting based on an arbitrary number like age.

-Txec R

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on April 30, 2026, 02:51:48 PMBTW, I am actively offended by the idea of depriving younger citizens of political rights. Talossa started as a child's fantasy endeavour, and it is repugnant for adults to try to eliminate kids from something they started because adults can't be trusted.

But I'm in favour of age limits for being an MC, though. An upper age limit. We can't be like the "Boomers who won't let go", I think that once you hit 40 or something you should only be able to run for a Senäts seat

I don't see any arguments against a lower age limit while supporting an upper age limit being logically consistent. I support both, we have recent experience that demonstrates why allowing some time for observation and maturation would be beneficial. With an eye on US Politics (I am thinking of Diane Feinstein, Ruth Bader Ginsberg, and Thomas Keane among other examples) I am sympathetic to a characterizing of the problem of gerontocratic leadership as "Boomers won't let go" though.

I do not think the CRL has the mandate to hold up a bill over a preamble which does not impact the bill's function.

BTW, I am actively offended by the idea of depriving younger citizens of political rights. Talossa started as a child's fantasy endeavour, and it is repugnant for adults to try to eliminate kids from something they started because adults can't be trusted.

But I'm in favour of age limits for being an MC, though. An upper age limit. We can't be like the "Boomers who won't let go", I think that once you hit 40 or something you should only be able to run for a Senäts seat

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on April 29, 2026, 04:56:50 PMFrom my (limited) research, though, it seems like the overhang can get pretty bad.

Not in the NZ system. I think this parliament we've had the biggest overhang ever (3 seats out of 120), because Te Pāti Māori won 6 of the Māori districts with 3% of the national list vote.

Quote from: Mximo Malt on April 29, 2026, 07:03:18 PMThen I just won't seek a second term, and I'd bet you'd loooooooooooove that! How bout them apples!?

Tell you what, Max, why don't you join the URL. We can mentor you.

We have seen in recent elections that many Talossans are confused or offended by ranked-choice voting for single seats (in the Senäts). Ranked-choice voting for multiple seats - while a great system in many ways - is far harder to explain to a hostile nation, especially its counting system.

The other problem with STV at a Talossan level is that either you'd have to divide the country into 3 or 4 voting districts (making gerrymandering possible), or elect 20 MCs at large, which would mean a "tablecloth ballot".

A possible simpler candidate-focused system would be that used in Kosovo, where you vote for a party and also for one person on that party list. So the seats are proportionate between parties but if a party gets X seats, they go to the top X individual vote winners