Since I think the underlying bill is a pretty good one, it seems like a good idea to provide a chance for it to pass into law.  If you think people are likely to vote against it or abstain because you're the sponsor and because you were condemned by the Ziu for your predatory behavior, then we should have an available version that might actually pass.

Ok, fair enough.  I apologize for not reading carefully enough to see that post!  I don't quite see why it's still better to separate News and Governmental, but I'm happy to defer to you in that regard.

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on June 03, 2026, 07:31:49 AMThe PA is likely to facilitate the passage of the original version of this bill with absententions while registering symbolic disapproval. If that does not happen then I will move forward with throwing this bill into the next Clark and prepare for "disreputable" comments when folks vote No or Aus and add another exhibit for the next election.

Sigh, it looks like we will have two versions of this bill now on the Clark.

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on June 17, 2026, 07:38:36 AMThe way the proposed process is written is fairly sloppy, and I don't think it would work as intended.

Constructive feedback toward desloppifying it is welcome.

Azul @Moses Henry Emefiele  , this board is meant for the operation of the Ziu, our parliament, and it's not typically open to feedback from prospective citizens.

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on June 17, 2026, 07:50:45 AMI'm wondering why these are separate?  It's not necessarily bad, but it seems like if we're going to have three categories, we might want to think broader.  Probably not a ton of people want La C'hronica but don't want other government announcements.

I think the answer is twofold:

1) Past practice and different purposes. The Government list was necessitated by the current C.1.2.2.5, the News list was created under the new database for a separate purpose. Although, now that I think of it, the legal basis for the delivery of La C'hronică is C.1.2.2.5 as well.

2) The News list was born when putting together the new database, and at that time, I didn't necessarily envision it as delivering La C'hronică only.

I don't think there's much harm in merging the two, but I think keeping them separate provides more clarity when managing consent.

QuoteI wonder if there's a possibility of instead having a Social list for the forwarding of announcements by Talossan organizations?  Any given organization could be limited to two announcements per term or something like that.  I think it would be great to have stuff like TCAT eligible to send out announcements to let people know it's starting, since there might be some cycling fans out there who just never noticed it before.

I addressed this here (I called it "cultural" and you called it "social", but I think the idea is the same): https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?msg=43335

9. The following text shall be known as The Oath of Talossan Citizenship:
From this day forward, I pledge my loyalty, allegiance, and fidelity to the Kingdom of Talossa and to His Majesty's government. I solemnly affirm that I will support and uphold the Organic Law of the Kingdom of Talossa, defend the realm against all enemies, both foreign and domestic, faithfully observe its laws, respect the rights and freedoms of all my fellow citizens, fulfill all my duties and obligations as a citizen of the Kingdom of Talossa, and humbly appreciate the benefits granted unto me by my King, most especially when those benefits take the form of Talossan currency.

This one is good also. Thanks.

Quote from: Moses Henry Emefiele on June 17, 2026, 07:53:20 AM9. The following text shall be known as The Oath of Talossan Citizenship:
From this day forward, I pledge my loyalty, allegiance, and fidelity to the Kingdom of Talossa and to its Organic Law. I solemnly affirm that I will respect the rights and freedoms of all my fellow citizens, defend the realm against all enemies both foreign and domestic, faithfully observe the nation's laws, fulfill all my duties and obligations as a citizen of the Kingdom of Talossa, and humbly appreciate the benefits granted unto me by my King, most especially when those benefits take the form of Talossan currency or national cuisine.

Very Good. Thanks.

The oath itself isn't new -- we're just modifying it.  It's in our statutory code, which you can read here.  It's E.9.

9. The following text shall be known as The Oath of Talossan Citizenship:
From this day forward, I pledge my loyalty, allegiance, and fidelity to the Kingdom of Talossa and to its Organic Law. I solemnly affirm that I will respect the rights and freedoms of all my fellow citizens, defend the realm against all enemies both foreign and domestic, faithfully observe the nation's laws, fulfill all my duties and obligations as a citizen of the Kingdom of Talossa, and humbly appreciate the benefits granted unto me by my King, most especially when those benefits take the form of Talossan currency or national cuisine.

Very Good. Thanks.

Quote7.6.6 A News Mailing List shall be maintained by the Chancery for the purpose of sharing monthly gazettes compiled by the Government.
7.6.6.1 Communications shared in this way shall entirely consist of news about Talossa and drafted by the relevant Government minister.
7.6.6.2 Such communications may only be forwarded up to once per calendar month.

7.6.7 A Governmental Mailing List shall be maintained by the Chancery for the purpose of sharing information about Government business.
7.6.7.1 Communications shared in this way must entirely pertain to official Government business.
7.6.7.2 Such communications may not include publicity for, or any other business pertaining to, any political party or candidate for election, or any particular outcome for a specific referendum.
7.6.7.3 Such communications may only be forwarded no fewer than thirty days apart, and not in the period between a Dissolution of the Cosa and the Certification Deadline for the subsequent General Election.

I'm wondering why these are separate?  It's not necessarily bad, but it seems like if we're going to have three categories, we might want to think broader.  Probably not a ton of people want La C'hronica but don't want other government announcements.

I wonder if there's a possibility of instead having a Social list for the forwarding of announcements by Talossan organizations?  Any given organization could be limited to two announcements per term or something like that.  I think it would be great to have stuff like TCAT eligible to send out announcements to let people know it's starting, since there might be some cycling fans out there who just never noticed it before.