Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on April 28, 2026, 05:12:28 PMAnother thing which has been glossed over so far is the other side of the coin re: "giving voters effective control over who sits in the Ziu", and that is making sure party seats (as far as practicable) go to candidates whose names were on the ballot and who the voters were aware of. Considering the Seneschal has previously talked about taking a Cort case to declare party lists unconstitutional, that's something we have to sort out right now.

The current standard of "maximum 33% off-list" is a bare minimum, perhaps with an OrgLaw amendment to render it constitutional to the Seneschal's standards. I'd prefer 25% or even 20%; I understand that some wiggle-room is acceptable.

Do we have to sort it out right now?  It doesn't seem like that's structural here, so maybe we want to leave that until later.  If you're trying to work out a consensus view, it's often helpful to focus on strong points of agreement and progress, rather than focus on problems -- unless there's something I'm missing about this, and we need to figure it out before proceeding.

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on April 26, 2026, 05:49:25 PMI know that we keep citizenship eligibility at 14 for historical reasons but we should consider a minimum age limit for being an MZ. I would suggest 18 or 21 (if this does not run afoul of the OrgLaw). If we are serious about making  structural improvements to the Ziu then it might be worth considering whether 14 or 16 is generally just too young to effectively participate in national decision-making.

ADDED: I mean no offense to our youngest citizens but wanted to broach the topic.

In my humble opinion, this would be terrible.

I totally get why we might not want to have minors here at all (even though it would be unfortunate given our founding), but assuming they are here, why would we not want them to participate in the thing most people find the most interesting? The stakes of "national decision making" are, all things considered, much to low to allow for that.

He might have been asking about when we started with a Cosa of just 20, since it's not currently in effect.

The Cosa won't actually reduce in size, Mximo, until like halfway through 2027... I think like two elections from now?

Quote from: Mximo Malt on April 29, 2026, 03:07:31 PM

Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on April 29, 2026, 01:31:13 PM

Quote from: Mximo Malt on April 28, 2026, 06:03:09 PMWhen did we start doing this?

When did we start doing what, exactly?

Reduced Cosă seats

It is not a good look for potential voters that you apparently didn't have a good look at 62RZ11 before you voted on it

Quote from: Vitxalmour Axhairsegol on April 28, 2026, 06:19:14 PMHello, I would like to delete this account and renounce my citizenship. I am barely on it for personal reasons and I feel that it is best I leave thank you everyone for all the nice posts you have made

Bye

Vit

Vit, I hope in the future you will see your way back to Talossa. In the meantime I look forward to sharing ideas on Pinterest.

Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on April 29, 2026, 01:31:13 PM

Quote from: Mximo Malt on April 28, 2026, 06:03:09 PMWhen did we start doing this?

When did we start doing what, exactly?

Reduced Cosă seats

@Moinul Moin has graciously agreed to represent the Progressive Alliance.  Please increase @Tong Mun Kit 's allotment to twenty seats, reflecting our confidence in his growing experience, and assign the remaining seven to @Moinul Moin .  Thank you!

Quote from: Mximo Malt on April 28, 2026, 06:03:09 PMWhen did we start doing this?

When did we start doing what, exactly?

This prospective has not made a post on Wittenberg within a month of their introduction.  In accordance with Lexh.E.4, their application process is hereby terminated. @Minister of Immigration, please take notice.

This prospective has not made a post on Wittenberg within a month of their introduction.  In accordance with Lexh.E.4, their application process is hereby terminated. @Minister of Immigration, please take notice.