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#71
El Ziu/The Ziu / Re: [GOVT] Update in immigrati...
Last post by King Txec - June 01, 2026, 12:54:19 PM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on April 12, 2026, 10:45:59 AMOkay, the Minister of Technology has set up a tweak on the current user structure and implemented the opposition email account.  I have set up the immigration system to automatically mirror applications directly to it, and I'll monitor it for a week to make sure it's working correctly.  Once we're confident, I'll hand off the account to you, Your Majesty, and you can change the password and share the info with the Leader of the Opposition.

Just as an update here, I have been unable to provide login credentials to the Leader of the Opposition as I am unable to change the password. There is no setting in the email system used in order to accomplish this.

-Txec R
#72
El Funal/The Hopper / Re: Ziu Reform Possibilities
Last post by Sir Lüc - June 01, 2026, 12:52:36 PM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on June 01, 2026, 07:47:16 AMI also saw that @Mic'haglh Autófil, O.Be had a suggested new statute to require MCs to confirm their willingness to stand, and that seems like another good thing to include.  (It doesn't seem like a big logistical hurdle -- @Sir Lüc , would this be a challenge to implement?)

Not too difficult on my part - there would just be some kind of active list management in the Database where party leaders can log in and add and remove candidates, and candidates can then follow some unique emailed link to consent to their placement on the list.

Some of the Database's structure was already sort of designed to enable something like that later on (more broadly, letting party leaders manage their party registrations through automatic forms rather than on a Witt thread).
#73
I'm not dead-set against the candidate-based voting, but you have to admit that this is a lot simpler and more similar to the way we've been voting for a long time.  And I think it will take a lot of work to figure out how to implement something like that in a responsible way.  We're deep into the weeds here, though, and there's a lot of things we can fix in the meantime.  I don't mean to be dismissive just because I took the bull by the horns and got some text out for review, but I'm also leery of letting us go hungry while we chew on a tough bit of gristle.  Please take my word when I say that I am definitely open to the candidate voting, still.

EDIT: I just reread what I wrote and I really twisted my metaphors to the breaking point, sorry.

1.  Yes, I have been hacking away at this and I noticed that a bit ago, and probably fixed it while you were typing.  Good eye, though!
2. There's no change being made to that aspect, so legally I don't think the timer would reset.
3. Oh, shoot, you're right.  It's not a huge problem, but it's something I'll have to account for with bifurcating text (like this section will only take effect if the referendum fails, etc).  Thank you.
#74
El Ziu/The Ziu / [CHANCERY] June 2026 Clark - 6...
Last post by Sir Lüc - June 01, 2026, 12:34:25 PM
Voting on the June 2026 Clark (the fifth of the 62nd Cosă) is now open, until the 21st of the month, at 19h30 TST.

You can find the Clark at: https://database.talossa.com/ziu/clark (database) or at https://wiki.talossa.com/images/d/d6/June2026Clark.pdf (pdf)

MCs and Senators can all vote on the new Database using the credentials you have been sent by email: https://database.talossa.com/ziu/clark/vote

If you wish to vote on Wittenberg, MCs can vote here and Senators can vote here.



Sir Lüc da Schir, UrB
Secretary of State
#75
El Senäts/The Senate / 62nd Cosă 5th Clark - Senate v...
Last post by Sir Lüc - June 01, 2026, 12:33:28 PM
Senators, you can cast your votes on the Fifth Clark here or on the database: https://database.talossa.com/ziu/clark/vote

You can find the Clark at: https://database.talossa.com/ziu/clark (database) or at https://wiki.talossa.com/images/d/d6/June2026Clark.pdf (pdf)

If you vote here on Witt, do not indicate any conditions which may make it sound like this vote isn't final: you can always change your vote later.

#76
La Cosă/The Cosa / 62nd Cosă 5th Clark - Cosă vot...
Last post by Sir Lüc - June 01, 2026, 12:33:03 PM
Members of the Cosă, you can cast your votes on the Fifth Clark here or on the database: https://database.talossa.com/ziu/clark/vote

You can find the Clark at: https://database.talossa.com/ziu/clark (database) or at https://wiki.talossa.com/images/d/d6/June2026Clark.pdf (pdf)

If you vote here on Witt, do not indicate any conditions which may make it sound like this vote isn't final: you can always change your vote later.
#77
Sad to see the issue of candidate-based voting not further acknowledged. Personally, I'm not willing to give up on this project just yet, as I still think it's worth considering.

As for the bill draft, three things caught my attention:

1) Your new LegOrg.IV.3 would increase the seat limit not by a third, but by four, meaning that two people would suffice to control an absolute majority. The formula should say "forty times the total number of seats in the Cosă divided by three times the number of ballots cast for the Cosă in the most recent General Election, rounded up to the next integer". EDIT: Looks like this has already been taken care of.
2) Does this revision of Lexh.H.4.1 mean the time at which the 20-seat Cosă would enter into effect is reset, or would that still be in accordance to the Pseudo-Real Cosă Act (i.e., next February)?
3) An amendment to revise New Citizen seats has already been passed by this Ziu and will be on the ballot next election. How... problematic is it for two separate referenda to modify the same section of the LegOrg in contradictory ways?
#78
Florencia / Re: Florencian Constitutional ...
Last post by Breneir Tzaracomprada - June 01, 2026, 11:59:41 AM
Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil, O.Be on May 29, 2026, 04:45:10 PMVice-Chair @mximo , do you have any input on Vice-Chair Tzaracomprada's proposal?

All of the Governor's questions are well taken. Before officially responding I want to give a bit more of an opportunity for the province's senator to show up...
#79
El Funal/The Hopper / Re: Ziu Reform Possibilities
Last post by Breneir Tzaracomprada - June 01, 2026, 11:51:40 AM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on June 01, 2026, 09:17:36 AMWhereas the Ziu believes in further perfecting our democracy, and accordingly wishes to better establish its belief that the outcome of a vote should match the will of the voters as much as possible, and that the people should be in charge of that outcome and not party bosses, and that there is room for parties of every size

This process and apparent result does appear to indicate the Democracy Agenda crosses party boundaries. Hopefully this will be included in the Sixth Clark BEFORE the election and not be used as a part of it.
#80
Okay, so this is legal text from myself, Miestra, and Mic'haglh.  I'm still working on it, and haven't yet tackled the party procedures thing.  I'm not sure where to stick that in the Organic Law or what the principles should quite be.

EDIT: Geez there's a lot of statutes that need to be fixed!  I think I have them all?

The Democracy Act and Amendment

Whereas the Ziu believes in further perfecting our democracy, and accordingly wishes to better establish its belief that the outcome of a vote should match the will of the voters as much as possible, and that the people should be in charge of that outcome and not party bosses, and that there is room for parties of every size,


Part I: Ironclad Party Lists

THEREFORE, the second section of Article IV of the Organic Law, which currently reads:
QuoteBased on the final results of the General Election, the Secretary of State shall calculate the apportionment of seats among the parties, hereinafter referred to as "party seats".
    1. The party seats shall total 200, or another number which may be set by law, with the provisos that any such change will not take effect until the next election following the passage of a calendar year; and that this number may never be less than twice the number of Senators minus one.
    2. Each party shall receive a percentage of party seats as equal as possible to its percentage of the popular vote, but each party shall receive a whole number of seats, and in turn, each party shall assign these seats to individuals, in accordance with law. The Secretary of State shall employ whatever mathematical formulae and calculations in the apportionment of seats as are set by law, or, in the absence of such law, as will best reflect the intentions of this Organic Law. The Uppermost Cort shall be the final judge in case of mathematical disputes.
    3. Only registered political parties may obtain party seats. Parties which win votes but are not registered may not assume their seats in the Cosa until they register. The process to register a party shall be defined by law. The Secretary of State may request from all parties a registration fee, to be set by law, to cover the cost of the election. This fee shall be uniform for all parties.
shall be amended to read:
QuoteBased on the final results of the General Election, the Secretary of State shall calculate the apportionment of seats among the parties, hereinafter referred to as "party seats".
    1. The party seats shall total 200, or another number which may be set by law, with the provisos that any such change will not take effect until the next election following the passage of a calendar year; and that this number may never be less than twice the number of Senators minus one.
    2. Each party shall receive a percentage of party seats as equal as possible to its percentage of the popular vote, but each party shall receive a whole number of seats, and in turn, the Secretary of State shall assign these seats to candidates nominated by that party. The Secretary of State shall assign seats by assigning a seat to the first person on a party's list. If the party won more than one seat, then the Secretary of State will assign a seat to the next person on their list, and so on until the end of the party's list. The Secretary of State will then return to the top of the list, and continue in the same manner until all of the party's seats have been assigned.
    3. No person shall hold more seats in the Cosă than forty times the total number of seats in the Cosă divided by three times the number of ballots cast for the Cosa in the most recent General Election, rounded up to the next integer.
    4. Any seats which cannot be assigned under the procedure described in this section may be filled by the King according to his own best judgment, or left vacant.
    5. The Secretary of State shall employ whatever mathematical formulae and calculations in the apportionment of seats as are set by law, or, in the absence of such law, as will best reflect the intentions of this Organic Law. The Uppermost Cort shall be the final judge in case of mathematical disputes.
    6. Only registered political parties may obtain party seats. Parties which win votes but are not registered may not assume their seats in the Cosa until they register. The process to register a party shall be defined by law. The Secretary of State may request from all parties a registration fee, to be set by law, to cover the cost of the election. This fee shall be uniform for all parties.

FURTHERMORE, the third section of Article IV of the Organic Law, which currently reads:
QuoteIn the case of vacant party seats occurring between elections, the Secretary of State shall inform the King and the leader of whatever party held the vacant seat. The King shall appoint a replacement to each vacancy. If the seat belonged to a party with a functioning party leader, the King must appoint as a replacement whichever person shall be so designated by that party's leader. If there is no functioning party leader, or if the party leader refuses to designate a replacement, the King shall appoint the replacement according to his own best judgment.
shall be amended to read:
QuoteIn the case of vacant party seats occurring between elections, the Secretary of State shall inform the King and the leader of whatever party held the vacant seat. The Secretary of State shall redistribute all of that party's seats among the remaining eligible candidates on that party's list in the same manner described in the second section, above. If no eligible candidate remains on that party's list, whether by vacation, ineligibility, or the operation of the maximum seats provision, the King may assign the seat according to his own best judgment, or leave it vacant.

FURTHERMORE, there shall be a new second subsubsection of the third subsection of the second section of Title B of El Lexhatx which shall read:
Quote2.3.2. The Secretary of State shall confirm to their satisfaction that all citizens appearing on a party list consent to do so, prior to the printing or publication of the ballot. Only citizens so consenting shall be recognized as being on a party's list for the purposes of Lexh.B.2.3, and only said citizens will appear on the party's list as shown on the ballot.

FURTHERMORE, the first subsection of the fourth section of Title H of El Lexhatx, which currently reads
Quote4.1. No person shall hold more seats in the Cosa than ten times the total number of seats in the Cosa divided by the number of ballots cast for the Cosa in the most recent General Election, rounded up to the next integer.
4.1.1. The total number of party seats is twenty.
shall be amended to read
Quote4.1. The total number of party seats is twenty.

FURTHERMORE, the first subsubsubsection of the first subsubsection of the third subsection of the second section of Title B of El Lexhatx, which currently reads
Quote2.3.1.1. The party leader may assign seats to any eligible citizen(s) they see fit, so long as the following criteria are met:
2.3.1.1.1. The party's internal procedures are followed
2.3.1.1.2. No one who was not named on the list is assigned more seats than any eligible citizen who was named on the list
2.3.1.1.3. The total number of seats awarded to those not on the list does not exceed 1/3 of all seats won by the party
2.3.1.1.4. No person occupies more than the maximum legal number of seats.
shall be deleted in its entirety.

FURTHERMORE, the third subsection of the second section of Title B of El Lexhatx, subsection 2.3.1, which currently reads
Quote2.3.1. Before the conclusion of the first Clark, each party leader must submit to the Secretary of State a report containing the distribution of the seats won in the election.
shall be amended to read
Quote2.3.1. Before the conclusion of the first Clark, the Secretary of State shall publish the distribution of seats among the candidates of each party, as calculated under the procedure described in Article IV of the Organic Law.

FURTHERMORE, subsection 2.3.1.2 of the third subsection of the second section of Title B of El Lexhatx, which currently reads
Quote2.3.1.2. Any person assigned a seat as above may decline to take their seats in which case they will be reallocated according to the criteria of B.2.3.1.1.
shall be amended to read
Quote2.3.1.2. Any person assigned a seat may decline to take their seats, in which case the Secretary of State shall redistribute that party's seats among the remaining candidates on the party's list in the manner described in the Organic Law.

FURTHERMORE, subsection 2.3.1.3 of the third subsection of the second section of Title B of El Lexhatx, which currently reads
Quote2.3.1.3. If a party cannot assign all of their seats under the criteria of B.2.3.1.1., the additional seats are forfeited.
shall be deleted in its entirety.


Part II: Standards of the Cosa

FURTHERMORE, the fourth section of Article IV of the Organic Law, which currently reads:
Quote1. In addition to the seats apportioned between parties after a General Election, the Secretary of State shall assign one Cosa seat to any citizen who becomes eligible to vote after the most recent Election Deadline but before the dissolution of the Cosa, upon the request of such citizen, up to a maximum number as this Organic Law might provide. Any additional seat so assigned shall cease to exist should its holder vacate or be removed from the seat and shall not be subject to the procedures for filling vacancies in the Cosa, and shall also cease to exist upon the dissolution of the Cosa.
2. The maximum number of seats that may be assigned to new citizens between general elections shall be 7.5% of the seats apportioned between parties, rounded up to a whole number of seats.
shall be amended to read
QuoteThe Cosa may impeach any of its members from the Chamber with a two-thirds majority vote and with the approval of the King. Following impeachment, a replacement will be chosen according to the third section of this article, and the impeached member shall not be eligible for reassignment of seats under the terms of this article. Following a failed impeachment, the accused Member of the Cosa may not again be impeached for the same offence, pursuant to the Seventh Covenant of the Covenant of Rights and Freedoms. The former Member of the Cosa is not barred from running for office in future elections as long as the former Member of the Cosa maintains citizenship.

FURTHERMORE, the fifth section of Article IV of the Organic Law, which currently reads:
QuoteEach person holding one or more seats is a representative known as a "Member of the Cosa" (MC). MCs may not be removed from office except by a two-thirds vote by the Cosa and approval by the King. An MC vacates his seats if he fails to vote on two consecutive Clarks, or if he resigns from office or dies. The seats of any MC who is removed or vacates shall be reassigned according to Section 4, above.
shall be amended to read
QuoteEach person holding one or more seats is a representative known as a "Member of the Cosa" (MC). An MC vacates his seats if they fail to vote on two consecutive Clarks, if they resign from office, or if they die. The seats of any MC who is removed or vacates shall be re-assigned according to the third section, above.