Quote from: King Txec on June 18, 2026, 07:18:55 PMThis "sense" appears on its face to be more about covering up your own sanctioned behavior than it is about the two criminals you bring up far more than is necessary.

-Txec R

Sorry to hear that that is how it appears to you, Your Majesty. If you want me to remove explicit references to them that is fine with me. I'm also happy to include a link to the resolution denouncing me if that is considered appropriate. As I said I'm happy to amend the Sense of the Ziu if it addresses concerns but I do think the organization and the cause are worthy of BHAID support.

This "sense" appears on its face to be more about covering up your own sanctioned behavior than it is about the two criminals you bring up far more than is necessary.

-Txec R

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on June 18, 2026, 05:43:56 PMCCX was not convicted of sexual abuse of minors btw. The victim was not a minor, the sexual contact was a crime in that he was her teacher.

Oh, thanks for clarifying. The former FreeDems prime minister abused his position of trust as a teacher by engaging in sexual relations with a high school student then.

I'll edit the bill again.

CCX was not convicted of sexual abuse of minors btw. The victim was not a minor, the sexual contact was a crime in that he was her teacher.

Your Majesty, Talossa has had two former leaders guilty of sexual abuse of minors. That is a fact, whether we are comfortable with it or not. I also acknowledge the sexual harassment allegations against me which certainly is not comfortable either.

"Produced" is inaccurate though, I agree, so I will edit to clarify.

Any supporters are welcome to cosponsor. I will continue to make edits to address concerns too.

Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on June 17, 2026, 06:44:57 PMBefore we do that, one thing:

Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on June 04, 2026, 07:29:11 AM

QuoteOkay, the change sounds good to me.  I'll make it: "3. No person shall hold more seats in the Cosă than thirty times the total number of seats in the Cosă divided by two times the number of ballots cast for the Cosa in the most recent General Election, rounded up to the next integer."

Under this formula, the seat limit in a 20-seat Cosă is 4 if turnout dips below 100, which as far as I could tell is the normal case. This has to do with how the limit strictly rounds up. Perhaps the following would future-proof things somewhat:

Quote"3. No person shall hold more seats in the Cosă than thirty times the total number of seats in the Cosă divided by two times the number of ballots cast for the Cosa in the most recent General Election, rounded up to the next non-zero integer."

EDIT: An as a side note, if you insist on moving voting system minutiae into the OrgLaw to make them harder to edit in the future, I expect we could just as well move the 20-seat Cosă in there, instead of continuing the "200 by default unless otherwise specified by law" dealio. In fact, I insist.

Okay, fair enough. I will try to write the changes to the text tonight, and get it to the CRL tomorrow.

It's pretty gross for someone who was condemned by the Ziu for sexual harassment to try to cover that up with this kind of nonsense.

Want to make things better around here? Give an honest apology. Even this bill just says you were "accused ." Your first step should be to take responsibility for your own actions.

I do not support this bill. I find it to be offensive and not worthy of a moments support. It is not only disingenuous but also mean spirited that the author of this proposal would dare to suggest on any level that Talossa "produced" two convicted sex offenders. This Kingdom had nothing at all to do with the actions of those two men, did not condone their actions, etc. We are not guilty by association nor are we responsible for the upbringing of moral failures of these two former citizens.

S:reu Tzaracomprada, I will veto this "sense" if it gets even one more vote than necessary to pass.

-Txec R

QuoteWhereas, the Me Too Movement International (https://metoomvmt.org/) has since 2006 provided vital support, resources, and advocacy for survivors of sexual harassment

I think we just found a new classic definition for the term chutzpah.

Yeah, I'd agree with that.

The standards of party democracy are a "nice to have" which we can deal with later if necessary; right now I don't think any party's membership are disgruntled.