Quote from: Mximo Malt on December 27, 2025, 11:07:37 AMAnd just who, pray tell, should I have asked?

The people who put their signature on this bill before you made these changes, perhaps. Or the Seneschal whom you want to chair a T&RC.

Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on December 27, 2025, 11:06:54 AM

Quote from: Mximo Malt on December 27, 2025, 11:03:31 AMWell given the fact that the majority of subjects still resent him, I think it only be fair to change the method of restoring KR1's nationality.

That's not my point. I feel like you should've asked before making any sweeping changes like that.

And just who, pray tell, should I have asked?

Quote from: Mximo Malt on December 27, 2025, 11:03:31 AMWell given the fact that the majority of subjects still resent him, I think it only be fair to change the method of restoring KR1's nationality.

That's not my point. I feel like you should've asked before making any sweeping changes like that.

Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on December 27, 2025, 11:01:14 AM

Quote from: Mximo Malt on December 27, 2025, 11:00:42 AMIf the Seneschal supports a T&RC, I have no doubt in my mind that he would oppose being the chair. And regarding my cosponsors, they wouldn't mind the tweaks I made here and there.

Did you ask? I mean, changing "return Ben's citizenship at once" to "agree to let Ben return on the condition of being questioned by a T&RC" is not a small tweak by any means.

Well given the fact that the majority of subjects still resent him, I think it only be fair to change the method of restoring KR1's nationality.

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on December 27, 2025, 07:55:24 AMI am reluctant to jump right into this with both feet, since I think there's still a lot of raw feelings on both sides. However, maybe this is the start of something?

Personally, I would really rather we had another conversation with him before we got right to voting. I would be happy to authorize an account for him if he would be willing to come chat with us.

We'll talk in DMs or Discord (whichever you prefer)

Quote from: Mximo Malt on December 27, 2025, 11:00:42 AMIf the Seneschal supports a T&RC, I have no doubt in my mind that he would oppose being the chair. And regarding my cosponsors, they wouldn't mind the tweaks I made here and there.

Did you ask? I mean, changing "return Ben's citizenship at once" to "agree to let Ben return on the condition of being questioned by a T&RC" is not a small tweak by any means.

Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on December 27, 2025, 10:58:57 AM

Quote from: Mximo Malt on December 27, 2025, 10:56:27 AMThere, happy?

Hang on, did the Seneschal agree to chair a Truth and Reconciliation Commission? Did your co-sponsors agree to this change? You're putting the cart before the horse.

Speaking of co-sponsors, the appropriate title for S:reu Ardpresteir within the Ziu would be "Senator for Maricopa", not "Squirrel-King of Arms".

If the Seneschal supports a T&RC, I have no doubt in my mind that he wouldn't oppose being the chair. And regarding my cosponsors, they wouldn't mind the tweaks I made here and there.

Quote from: Mximo Malt on December 27, 2025, 10:56:27 AMThere, happy?

Hang on, did the Seneschal agree to chair a Truth and Reconciliation Commission? Did your co-sponsors agree to this change? You're putting the cart before the horse.

Speaking of co-sponsors, the appropriate title for S:reu Ardpresteir within the Ziu would be "Senator for Maricopa", not "Squirrel-King of Arms".

Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on December 27, 2025, 10:53:30 AM

Quote from: Mximo Malt on December 27, 2025, 10:51:05 AMOk, but this bill is first and foremost to OK his return. We can have a T&RC before issuing him a grant to give him a chance to clarify his actions.

Sounds fair, doesn't it, Baron Seneschal?

This bill specifically asks the people in charge to "RESTORE THE CITIZENSHIP OF ROBERT I AT ONCE". "At once" means immediately. That doesn't sound like a mere OK, but rather that you would like him back as fast as humanly possible. Too fast for some people here.

There, happy?

Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on December 27, 2025, 10:53:30 AM

Quote from: Mximo Malt on December 27, 2025, 10:51:05 AMOk, but this bill is first and foremost to OK his return. We can have a T&RC before issuing him a grant to give him a chance to clarify his actions.

Sounds fair, doesn't it, Baron Seneschal?

This bill specifically asks the people in charge to "RESTORE THE CITIZENSHIP OF ROBERT I AT ONCE". "At one" means immediately. That doesn't sound like a mere OK, but rather that you would like him back as fast as humanly possible. Too fast for some people here.

Recent developments have changed that for me. I'll edit it immediately.