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Under El Lexhatx the Chancery is required to conduct a bi-annual census of the citizens of Talossa. The link below will take you to a Google form with the required questions.

Please be advised that any information you submit will be kept confidential and will only be used to maintain the citizenship records of the Kingdom of Talossa.

The census will remain open for 30 calendar days, and will close on August 21, 2023 at midnight TST. One reminder will be sent approximately one week prior to the close of the census.

Link to the census: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScaAuCY9v-YgrcHPYK5uRmWv9WWavOHdRilzeSIZcwm-UZJ8g/viewform




Secretár d'Estat/Secretary of State

I will update this post regularly with the progress of the census.

Responses as of August 8, 2023 08:00 AM TST: 53

Txec, thank you for getting this going and also thanks to the Baron for making updates. One quick note: 30 calendar days is not August 31st but August 21st or 22nd unless I'm mistaken.

Fixed the typo.

Who designed these "optional questions"? The issue of "Racial Identity" is something which makes no sense outside of the United States and its weird racial categories stemming from its history of slavery. I am reminded of the South African woman who identified as "Coloured" (i.e. of mixed ethnic background), who was "white" by Brazilian standards and Black by US standards.

The incredible national chauvinism of US Americans - assuming their categories are universal - should have no place in Talossa. I repeat: who designed these "optional questions"?

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on July 22, 2023, 05:11:17 PMWho designed these "optional questions"? The issue of "Racial Identity" is something which makes no sense outside of the United States and its weird racial categories stemming from its history of slavery. I am reminded of the South African woman who identified as "Coloured" (i.e. of mixed ethnic background), who was "white" by Brazilian standards and Black by US standards.

The incredible national chauvinism of US Americans - assuming their categories are universal - should have no place in Talossa. I repeat: who designed these "optional questions"?

Those optional questions were carried over from the previous 2019 (?) census and I can't recall who was in government at the time but I am curious too. Edited to add it was either a FreeDem or MRPT government but I am not sure if that addresses who designed it as it could've also been carried over from the 2016 (?) census.

I guess I also need to clarify, my identifying proudly as a Black person is not weird nor is that true of any person of color identifying as such as a part of the global African diaspora...which is far more extensive than the United States and Brazil.

Found it. The racial identity question was in the 2019 Census administered by Gluc. Results announcement thread here: https://talossa.proboards.com/thread/13180/february-2019-census-results (Not sure on 2016 though...)

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on July 22, 2023, 05:11:17 PMI repeat: who designed these "optional questions"?

Actual answer: I believe it was Dan Forestal, in 2009, as part of the first census.

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on July 22, 2023, 05:12:37 PMFound it. The racial identity question was in the 2019 Census administered by Gluc.

Just to be clear, I didn't design any of the questions. They were carried over from the previous census, which is required by law unless any changes are approved by the Ziu.

At the time the political affiliation question was also entirely write in rather than limited to the existing political parties.

Quote from: Glüc da Dhi S.H. on July 23, 2023, 04:25:53 AM

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on July 22, 2023, 05:12:37 PMFound it. The racial identity question was in the 2019 Census administered by Gluc.

Just to be clear, I didn't design any of the questions. They were carried over from the previous census, which is required by law unless any changes are approved by the Ziu.

At the time the political affiliation question was also entirely write in rather than limited to the existing political parties.

Thanks Gluc and Luc for finding that. I am assuming that the changing or eliminating of that question would be approved by legislation.

I am also moved to note that we find that this becomes an issue and concern 14 years after the first asking of the question.

Quote from: Sir Lüc on July 23, 2023, 04:06:32 AM

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on July 22, 2023, 05:11:17 PMI repeat: who designed these "optional questions"?

Actual answer: I believe it was Dan Forestal, in 2009, as part of the first census.

Also, I don't know if Luc tagged you here. @Danihel Forestal any comment on this sudden issue?

Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on July 22, 2023, 09:31:00 AMI will update this post regularly with the progress of the census.

Responses as of July 22, 2023 9:30 AM TST: 6

@Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB Mr. Secretary, would you have time in the near future to alert the six early respondents concerning the revisions the Baron made?

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on July 25, 2023, 04:13:56 PM

Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on July 22, 2023, 09:31:00 AMI will update this post regularly with the progress of the census.

Responses as of July 22, 2023 9:30 AM TST: 6

@Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB Mr. Secretary, would you have time in the near future to alert the six early respondents concerning the revisions the Baron made?

Naturally.

Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on July 26, 2023, 08:18:22 AM

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on July 25, 2023, 04:13:56 PM

Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on July 22, 2023, 09:31:00 AMI will update this post regularly with the progress of the census.

Responses as of July 22, 2023 9:30 AM TST: 6

@Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB Mr. Secretary, would you have time in the near future to alert the six early respondents concerning the revisions the Baron made?

Naturally.

My gratitude flows naturally to you.

I can confirm that at least 4 of the early respondents have re-entered their census data as of this morning.

Good morning Mr. Secretary @Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB

Do you know if we have results from the National Census as I think it ended a couple weeks ago?

Thank you, I know this is not an urgent matter with the imminent election. Just curious.