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Started by King Txec, June 03, 2025, 04:30:01 AM

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Glüc

Quote from: King Txec on June 03, 2025, 04:30:01 AMI was assured that we would not have anything to do on our end, except allowing their AI to interact.
And subvert our democratic processes by making a chatbot minister presumably.

Anyway, I don't want to interact with AI. Interacting with fellow citizens is more than enough for me, because I value you all as human beings. (At least I assume you all are. To be fair the only one I'm 100% certain of is Lüc :p ) What is the main purpose of AI if not to copy our humanity and creativity and sell it to the highest bidder?
Director of Money Laundering and Sportswashing, Banqeu da Cézembre

Glüc

Quote from: Munditenens Tresplet on June 03, 2025, 11:21:45 AMI doubt the AI minister will have any powers that couldn't otherwise be controlled or monitored—probably would lack any actual powers.
Well if it didn't have any actual responsibilities, it wouldn't really be a minister would it?


Can't we just do the one where we change our laws to have someone marry the statute of liberty? At least that proposal was somewhat funny.
Director of Money Laundering and Sportswashing, Banqeu da Cézembre

Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on June 03, 2025, 09:53:31 AMI hope that the Government does the responsible thing and explores the idea, privately, even if it doesn't work out as a good idea.

The Government has already explored the idea privately. Why do you think it's taken a month to go public, lol :D

I, personally, am vehemently opposed to the idea, for reasons I'll explore in another post, but that was not a Cabinet consensus. So after a lot of discussion, and posting questions to these people, we decided to advise His Maj to make the proposal public.

¡LADINTSCHIÇETZ-VOI - rogetz-mhe cacsa!
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Munditenens Tresplet

Quote from: Glüc on June 03, 2025, 03:38:00 PM
Quote from: Munditenens Tresplet on June 03, 2025, 11:21:45 AMI doubt the AI minister will have any powers that couldn't otherwise be controlled or monitored—probably would lack any actual powers.
Well if it didn't have any actual responsibilities, it wouldn't really be a minister would it?

Without yet hearing more about the proposal, so far, that seems to be the point.
Munditenens Tresplet, O.SPM
Royal Governor of Péngöpäts

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Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on June 03, 2025, 03:38:56 PM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on June 03, 2025, 09:53:31 AMI hope that the Government does the responsible thing and explores the idea, privately, even if it doesn't work out as a good idea.

The Government has already explored the idea privately. Why do you think it's taken a month to go public, lol :D

I, personally, am vehemently opposed to the idea, for reasons I'll explore in another post, but that was not a Cabinet consensus. So after a lot of discussion, and posting questions to these people, we decided to advise His Maj to make the proposal public.

Excellent! I'm glad that you guys did your due diligence and explored the idea. Okay, so what other details can you share then, from that process? I think that would help a lot of people know how to react to this news.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan

                   

Danihel Txechescu

Quote from: Munditenens Tresplet on June 03, 2025, 03:41:09 PM
Quote from: Glüc on June 03, 2025, 03:38:00 PM
Quote from: Munditenens Tresplet on June 03, 2025, 11:21:45 AMI doubt the AI minister will have any powers that couldn't otherwise be controlled or monitored—probably would lack any actual powers.
Well if it didn't have any actual responsibilities, it wouldn't really be a minister would it?

Without yet hearing more about the proposal, so far, that seems to be the point.

More like an AI Advisor.

If that doesn't work out, we can probably reprogram it to be the court's jester.

Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on June 03, 2025, 03:54:52 PMso what other details can you share then, from that process?

Well, we created a list of questions from this company and got a list of answers in return - @Mic'haglh Autófil, O.Be was the point man on this, and I'll ask Cabinet for permission to republish those.

¡LADINTSCHIÇETZ-VOI - rogetz-mhe cacsa!
"They proved me right, they proved me wrong, but they could never last this long"

Mic’haglh Autófil, O.Be

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on June 03, 2025, 04:10:10 PM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on June 03, 2025, 03:54:52 PMso what other details can you share then, from that process?

Well, we created a list of questions from this company and got a list of answers in return - @Mic'haglh Autófil, O.Be was the point man on this, and I'll ask Cabinet for permission to republish those.

Alrght, so:

Quote
  • What degree of control would we retain over this AI model, and what would be controlled by (Company)? For that matter, what amount of "human control" is still necessary/possible?
    • In actual practice (not that we will communicate this as part of the story), it is likely to be as simple as (Company) granting you free access to its Premium platform, and building a bespoke agent/agents (something they can do very quickly and easily, since it's their core service) on your behalf, to match the needs of the story. Think of each agent as very sophisticated and ultra-tailored version of Chat-GPT, which is programmed to focus on a specific task or tasks. You can do nothing with them, or put them to work, as you wish.
  • They aren't seeking any payment from us, but would they require anything else? What sort of paperwork (especially legal paperwork) is involved? We would almost certainly have to sign some sort of contract.
    • Contracts, especially legal, certainly won't be necessary.
  • Can they give us more information on how this would be marketed?
    • In terms of how we'll market the story, please see my explanation below of how we'll take this to press. We will have (Company) post secured articles from their social media channels, too.
  • Why a Cabinet post? Why not something simpler at first, like citizenship in general?
    • A Cabinet post will be necessary to grab our contacts' attention, as a truly novel and fun innovation. We know how to craft these things to capture the interest of top-tier media. Of course, as mentioned, we wouldn't communicate anything without your blessing.
  • What sort of data does this model collect?
    • No more data is collected than for any of (Company)'s many thousands of corporate customers (I assume a user email address and anything else you'd expect of a SaaS).

An explanation of the marketing process they mentioned mentioned above:
QuoteOur team would manage the full process - drafting written materials for press, creating the AI workforce, and media placement. All we would need from your side is approval of press materials before they are shared with journalists, a written quote (which we can draft for you if helpful), and potentially being available for interview by an interested journalist. Otherwise, we'd keep the ask on you to an absolute minimum.
"mike you don't get to flex your custom emotes on me if you didn't vote in tmt20😡" - Lüc da Schir

Tric'hard Lenxheir

Will things such as my real name, email address, home address be available to this "AI" or the company controlling it?
Tric'hard Lenxheir

Barclamïu da Miéletz

Quote from: Tric'hard Lenxheir on June 03, 2025, 11:23:04 PMWill things such as my real name, email address, home address be available to this "AI" or the company controlling it?
That's also my personal concern.

Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

QuoteIn actual practice (not that we will communicate this as part of the story), it is likely to be as simple as (Company) granting you free access to its Premium platform, and building a bespoke agent/agents (something they can do very quickly and easily, since it's their core service) on your behalf, to match the needs of the story. Think of each agent as very sophisticated and ultra-tailored version of Chat-GPT, which is programmed to focus on a specific task or tasks. You can do nothing with them, or put them to work, as you wish.

So it will be an agent like a ChatGPT agent -- a version of their LLM that is tailored to specific tasks and trained on specific information -- but only privately available?  It won't have direct access to Wittenberg or anything like that, it seems, so any communication would be mediated by someone else to post here.  That's good... it means we won't need to worry about it saying something horrible.

QuoteWhy a Cabinet post? Why not something simpler at first, like citizenship in general?[/b]
A Cabinet post will be necessary to grab our contacts' attention, as a truly novel and fun innovation. We know how to craft these things to capture the interest of top-tier media. Of course, as mentioned, we wouldn't communicate anything without your blessing.

Legally, I believe honorary citizenship could be granted to an LLM.  But we wouldn't have to do that.  Only the Seneschal is required to be a Talossan -- and thus, a person.

QuoteNo more data is collected than for any of (Company)'s many thousands of corporate customers (I assume a user email address and anything else you'd expect of a SaaS).

Even though I'm excited by this, that's a suspicious answer, lol.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan

                   

Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on June 04, 2025, 07:43:27 AMI believe honorary citizenship could be granted to an LLM.

I am *not* putting a chatbot on the same legal footing as a living, breathing, Talossan human, and that's final.

¡LADINTSCHIÇETZ-VOI - rogetz-mhe cacsa!
"They proved me right, they proved me wrong, but they could never last this long"

Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

Yes, I was saying that it wouldn't necessary to do that.

I guess there really isn't any point in discussing this anymore.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan