The Great Big Chocolate-Covered Waste of Time Bill

[Miestră Schivă, UrN]

WHEREAS why do we even have a Council of Governors as all it does is elect a leader then fall silent;

AND WHEREAS there is nothing to stop informal interprovincial consultations as and when necessary

THEREFORE be it enacted by the Ziu of Talossa that El Lexhatx D.9 is deleted in its entirety.

[Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir]

Whilst i completely agree with sentiments of this bill, and honestly mostly support it, it might be best to amend it to, instead of being in session at all times, a chair is only elected when a majority of Provincial Government representatives have come together and called for a meeting of the Council for a specific topic of import, and the chair will serve for the meeting to keep order and run proceedings, and if needed as a representative, and once the issue bought before the council has been dealt with, that session is over, and the chair becomes vacant, and council dormant, until such a time where the Provincial Government heads once again feel the need of the council? So it meets on an as needed basis?

[Miestră Schivă, UrN]

I look forwarded to seeing your suggested amendments!

[Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir]

This is slightly rushed, so does need to be looked at for errors, and i did this based on the most upto date record of the law in question, so im sorry if the part of this which is proposed to be amended is out of date, but here is a draft idea of an amended council of governors.

THEREFORE Lex.D.9, which currently reads
"9. The Ziu authorises the formation of a Council of Governors (el Cußéglh del Governadéirs in Talossan, abbreviated CG) to be comprised of each provincial executive, whether he or she is called "Governor" or not.

9.1. The Minister of the Interior shall call the Council into order no later than the first day of the first Clark of each Cosa term. Each provincial executive shall accept his or her seat in the Council no later than the last day of that Clark.

9.1.1. If the executive of a province does not accept his or her seat by the specified time, the Minister of the Interior may appoint a resident of that province to the Council, who shall serve until the executive of that province accepts his or her seat. The Minister of the Interior shall not appoint him or herself to the Council in this manner.

9.2. The Council shall meet and operate under rules of its own design.

9.3. The Governor-General of Talossa shall be the leader of the Council, chosen by a majority of the Council members (who are the collective governors and provincial leaders of Talossa). In matters provincial, the Governor-General shall serve as a liaison to the Government of Talossa, to serve at the behest of the Council of Governors. (32RZ10)

9.4. If a member of the Council ceases to be a provincial executive, he or she shall immediately lose his or her seat in the Council. The new executive of the province shall have one month to accept his or her seat in the Council, after which the Minister of the Interior may appoint a resident of that province to the Council, who shall serve until the new provincial executive accepts his or her seat.

9.5. If a province is without an executive, the Minister of the Interior may appoint a resident of that province to the Council, who shall serve until the province elects an executive and that executive accepts his or her seat."

Shall be amended to read as:-

9. The Ziu authorises the formation of a Council of Governors (el Cußéglh del Governadéirs in Talossan, abbreviated CG) to be comprised of each provincial executive, whether he or she is called "Governor" or not. This shall be on an issue by issue basis, as set out in this passage.

9.1. The Minister of the Interior shall call the Council into order if a majority of Provincial Executives come forward to the minister, with a proposed agenda, for a specific purpose decided by the Executives

9.1.1. The Council, once called by the Minister, as in the previous clause, shall then have 14 days to formally accept their place on the council, before a Governor-General (see 9.3) is elected for the council to form,

9.1.2 if a province is without a Provincial Executive, the Minister of the interior, along with a 2/3 majority vote of the council, shall appoint a representative from said province to serve for the duration of the Council session.

9.2. The Council shall meet and operate under rules of its own design. These rules must pertain to the agenda proposed, with a suitable timeframe, and a condition where the Governor-General shall dissolve the session, and leave the position vacant (at the end of the council session)

9.3. The Governor-General of Talossa shall be the leader of the Council, chosen by a majority of the Council members (who are the collective governors and provincial leaders of Talossa). In matters provincial, the Governor-General shall serve as a liaison to the Government of Talossa, to serve at the behest of the Council of Governors. (32RZ10), This shall be for the duration the said council, Is in session, and shall need to be done at every council session called.

9.4. If a member of the Council ceases to be a provincial executive, he or she shall immediately lose his or her seat in the Council. The new executive of the province shall have 2 weeks of taking office, (which at such time, the council will pause their business), to accept his or her seat in the Council, after which the Minister of the Interior may appoint a resident of that province to the Council, who shall serve until the new provincial executive accepts his or her seat, In accordance with 9.1.1- 9.1.2 of this passage

9.5 Upon completion of the council business, unless anything new has arisen, the Governor-General has three days to dissolve the council, and resign their post, before  the council automatically dissolves and the Governor-General position automatically vacant, until such a time where the provisions to set up this council, is invoked again by a majority of Provincial Executive, as set out in this passage.


this could use work, but i think its at a point that input from others would be useful.

[Miestră Schivă, UrN]

I'm happy to accept Antaglha's amendments in principle - I'll try to streamline the language a bit for the First (real) Clark, unless anyone else has suggestions

[xpb]

It may be appropriate to list the acutal offices involved in the council in 9. - the various heads of entities, such as Başbakan, Maestro, Sénéchal, Túischac'h, etc. ss there was some confusion in Cézembre regarding election of a Governor-General (that name being used for the function of Cunstaval)
This line would be updated in rare times when one of those titles changed.

[Tierçéu Rôibeardescù]

It appears that the GC it was called into being in 2003 as a form of provincial united voice. However, with senators already existing, are they not the voice for the province? All laws within them that are specific to them must be organic anyway. Do they not serve as basically as different flavours of government within the confines of the greater Talossan government. Also, are the MC whom are elected are also intended also as conduits to enact changes in legislation? If provincial governments require greater changes outside of the provincial level, would they not have to do it through official channels anyway? Being that the GC has no actual power, nor any shape or form of constitution of its own and thus no structure and the effort of governors changing that has to be their own work to make something work for them, hence no one gets involved because they don't want to do the work of creating essentially a new legislative branch of government yet with little to no mandate, agency nor power to enact anything that could not be done through already existing channels. It appears to me the idea was a little floored from the start. They where originally intended to "work together for mutual interest". "The Council will meet, upon approval of this bill, immediately to begin designing a constitution or other set of rules for self-governance" It once said, yet its true propose was never really decided.


We don't need to necessarily get rid of it, but we do need it to have a reason to exist? What shall it do? Put it in charge of something and people may have more interest in it, than merely being an extra echo chamber for already existing body's. Give them a reason to be!

Why not make the space for the governors to work together in areas of mutual interest, culture. Each province has its own culture and customs. Why not make it a cultural governing body?

Say, Put them in charge of interprovincial Sports?
An give them a set of sports to start off with, they can add their own later?
That way each province has a team to support like each city/country has its own Soccer/football/baseball club to support?

They currently exist, give them a job to do!