The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]

[Tric'hard Lenxheir]

Group 9

4. Bohemian Rhapsody-Queen
3. Brandy (You're A Fine Girl)-Looking Glass
2. Sirius/Eye In The Sky-The Alan Parsons Project
1. Kashmir-Led Zeppelin

Group 10

4. Jane-Jefferson Starship
3. The Chain-Fleetwood Mac
2. Message In A Bottle-The Police
1. Song Of Durin-Clamavi De Profundus

[Placiej]

GROUP 9
4- Eagles - Lyin' Eyes
2-Foghat - Slow Ride
3- Led Zeppelin - Kashmir
1-Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody


GROUP 10
2-Fleetwood Mac - The Chain
3-Jefferson Starship - Jane
4-Police - Message in a Bottle
1-Rolling Stones - You Can't Always Get What You Want

[Sir Ian Plätschisch]

Voting for Groups 9 and 10 is closed.

GROUP 9
1. Bohemian Rhapsody - 10
2. Lyin' Eyes - 8
3. Uprising - 7 (one 4-point vote)
4. Sirius/Eye In The Sky - 7 (no 4-point votes)
5. Brandy (You're a Fine Girl) - 5 (one 2-point vote)
6. Kashmir - 5 (no 2-point votes)
7. Slow Ride - 4
8. Blinding Lights - 3
9. Stressed Out - 1
10. Blue Moon - 0

GROUP 10
1. Jane - 10
2. Haifisch - 8 (two 4-point votes)
3. Message in a Bottle - 8 (one 4-point vote)
4. The Chain - 8 (no 4-point votes)
5. You Can't Always Get What You Want - 5
6. The Sound of Silence - 4 (one 4-point vote)
7. Solsbury Hill - 4 (no 4-point votes)
8. Layla - 2
9. The Song of Durin - 1
10. Chan Chan - 0

[Sir Ian Plätschisch]

Of the 50 songs advancing to round 3:
-15 (of 20 starting in this year's contest) were in the Top 20 last year
-3 (of 5) were eliminated in R4 last year
-12 (of 25) were eliminated in R3 last year
-10 (of 50) were eliminated in R2 last year
-1 (of 2) was eliminated in R1 last year
-9 (of 48) are new this year

[Sir Ian Plätschisch]

TOP ROUND 2 SONGS BY PPV
1. Gimme Shelter - 2.6*
2. Sultans Of Swing - 2.333*
3. Old Time Rock and Roll - 2.2**
4. Burnin' For You - 2
4. Jane - 2
4. Bohemian Rhapsody - 2*
7. Crazy Train - 1.833*
8. The Devil Went Down to Georgia - 1.8*
8. Walk - 1.8
8. Ring of Fire - 1.8*
8. Baba O'Riley - 1.8

*Top 20 last year
**New this year

[Sir Ian Plätschisch]

Having already narrowed the field of 150 songs down to 50, we are coming into the home stretch of the 2021 TMT20. Here is a handy flowchart of how the remainder of the rounds are going to work:

[Sir Ian Plätschisch]

TMT20 ROUND 3 - GROUPS 1, 2, AND 3

Round 3 consists of five groups of ten songs each. The top five songs from each group advance according to the flowchart above. Groups are drawn randomly in such a way that each group contains two 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th place songs from Round 2.

We will vote on groups 1, 2, and 3 and then groups 4 and 5. Each voting period will last three days (72 hours). Votes cast after that will not be accepted, with the exception that we will always keep going until we have at least three votes per group.

Give your top four songs 4, 3, 2, and 1 points, respectively. You must give points to exactly three or four songs (awarding the 1-point vote is optional).

GROUP 1
Blue Öyster Cult - Burnin' For You
Dave Brubeck Quartet - Take Five
Eagles - Lyin' Eyes
Eagles - Midnight Flyer
Louis Armstrong - What a Wonderful World
Ludwig von Beethoven - 9th Symphony in D minor, Op. 125, 4th movement
Nightwish - Ghost Love Score
Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody
Queen - Don't Stop Me Now
Whiskey Myers - On The River

GROUP 2
Aerosmith - Same old Song and Dance
B-52's - Roam
Bob Segar - Old Time Rock and Roll
Dire Straits - Sultans Of Swing
Dire Straits - Telegraph Road
Kenny Rogers - The Gambler
Rammstein - Haifisch
Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil
Rush - Subdivisions
Toto - Africa

GROUP 3
Crosby, Stills and Nash - Southern Cross
Fleetwood Mac - The Chain
Gaelic Storm - One More Day Above the Roses
Jefferson Starship - Jane
Johnny Cash - Hurt
Men at Work - Down Under
Paul McCartney and Eric Clapton - While My Guitar Gently Weeps
Queen - Killer Queen
Talking Heads - Once in a Lifetime
The Who - Baba O'Riley

Tiebreakers:
- Number of voters giving 4 points
- Number of voters giving 3 points
- Number of voters giving 2 points
- PPV in Round 2
- Last year's result (1 > 2 > ... > 20 > Round 4 > Round 3 > Round 2 > other)
- PPV in Round 1 (if applicable)
- Random chance

Tactical voting refers to either giving more points than you normally would to a song because it would make the difference between it going through or getting eliminated, or giving fewer points than you normally would to a song because it might kick a song you like even more out of the competition. This is hard to prevent, but my very strong request would be to not do it. Give points to the songs you believe deserve to go through, regardless of how others are voting. Doing otherwise reduces the value of votes that came before you, which is unfair to them. Remember that it's not a competition between voters, but a collective effort to make a nice list of songs we like. Thanks.

I did my best with all the links but there is always a chance some are broken or have a wrong version or bad audio quality. If a link is broken or you have a suggestion for a better link, please contact me or post the link in the thread. Officially, we are not voting on the YouTube link, but on the listed Artist + Title.

COMMENTARY ON THE PROGRESS OF THE GAME, THE RULES, WHAT SONGS YOU LIKE, ETC., IS VERY WELCOME.

[xpb]

GROUP 1
4 - Ludwig von Beethoven - 9th Symphony in D minor, Op. 125, 4th movement (saw a friend perform this at the Aspen Music Festival this past summer, one of the initial concert events that I was able to attend as pandemic restrictions began to ease.  Also has a great element in the Neal Stephenson novel "Seveneves")
3 - Dave Brubeck Quartet - Take Five
2 - Louis Armstrong - What a Wonderful World
1 - Blue Öyster Cult - Burnin' For You

GROUP 2
4 - B-52's - Roam
3 - Dire Straits - Telegraph Road
2 - Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil
1 - Dire Straits - Sultans Of Swing

GROUP 3
4 - Paul McCartney and Eric Clapton - While My Guitar Gently Weeps
3 - Talking Heads - Once in a Lifetime
2 - Men at Work - Down Under
1 - The Who - Baba O'Riley

[Glüc]

Great flowchart!

4 Bohemian Rhapsody
3 Ghost Love Score
2 On the River
1 9th Symphony

4 Haifisch
3 Telegraph Road
2 Sympathy for the Devil
1 Subdivisions

4 Once in a Lifetime
3 The Chain
2 While My Guitar Gently Weeps
1 Down Under

[Sir Ian Plätschisch]

Lots of good songs I couldn't give points to. I guess it's a good thing that I think all the groups are strong at this stage in the contest.

GROUP 1
4 - Whiskey Myers - On The River
3 - Eagles - Midnight Flyer
2 - Queen - Don't Stop Me Now
1 - Blue Öyster Cult - Burnin' For You

GROUP 2
4 - Rammstein - Haifisch
3 - Bob Segar - Old Time Rock and Roll
2 - Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil
1 - Aerosmith - Same old Song and Dance

GROUP 3
4 - Gaelic Storm - One More Day Above the Roses
3 - Jefferson Starship - Jane
2 - Fleetwood Mac - The Chain
1 - The Who - Baba O'Riley

[Tric'hard Lenxheir]

Group 1

4. What A Wonderful World-Louis Armstrong
3. Burnin' For You-Blue Oyster Cult
2. Bohemian Rhapsody-Queen
1. Don't Stop Me Now-Queen

Group 2

4. Old Time Rock 'n' Roll-Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band
3. Sultans Of Swing-Dire Straits
2. Subdivisions-Rush
1. Africa-Toto

Group 3

4. Killer Queen-Queen
3. Hurt-Johnny Cash
2. Jane-Jefferson Starship
1. Down Under-Men At Work

[Placiej]

GROUP 1
1 Dave Brubeck Quartet - Take Five
3 Eagles - Lyin' Eyes
2 Eagles - Midnight Flyer
4 Whiskey Myers - On The River

GROUP 2
3 Aerosmith - Same old Song and Dance
4 B-52's - Roam
2 Dire Straits - Sultans Of Swing
1 Toto - Africa

GROUP 3
4 Crosby, Stills and Nash - Southern Cross
3 Fleetwood Mac - The Chain
2 Gaelic Storm - One More Day Above the Roses
1 Johnny Cash - Hurt

[Sir Ian Plätschisch]

Voting on groups 1, 2, and 3 is closed.

GROUP 1
1. On The River - 10
2. Bohemian Rhapsody - 6 (Rd 2 PPV = 2.000)

3. What a Wonderful World - 6 (Rd 2 PPV = 1.000)

4. 9th Symphony in D minor, Op. 125, 4th movement - 5 (one 4-point vote)
5. Midnight Flyer - 5 (no 4-point votes, one 2-point vote)

6. Burnin' For You - 5 (no 4-point votes, no 2-point votes)
7. Take Five - 4
8. Lyin' Eyes - 3 (one 3-point vote, Rd 2 PPV = 1.600)
9. Ghost Love Score - 3 (one 3-point vote, Rd 2 PPV = 1.200)
10. Don't Stop Me Now - 3 (no 3-point votes)

-Both new nominations in this group were elimated
-Don't Stop Me Now received the most points of any last-placed song so far

GROUP 2
1. Haifisch - 8 (Rd 2 PPV = 1.600)
2. Roam - 8 (Rd 2 PPV = 1.167)

3. Old Time Rock and Roll - 7

4. Telegraph Road - 6 (two 3-point votes)
5. Sultans Of Swing - 6 (one 3-point vote)

6. Sympathy for the Devil - 6 (no 3-point votes)
7. Same old Song and Dance - 4
8. Subdivisions - 3
9. Africa - 2
10. The Gambler - 0

-Old Time Rock and Roll becomes the first new nomination to clinch a spot in the Top 20

GROUP 3
1. The Chain - 8
2. Once in a Lifetime - 7

3. One More Day Above the Roses - 6 (Rd 2 PPV = 1.600)

4. While My Guitar Gently Weeps - 6 (Rd 2 PPV = 1.000)
5. Jane - 5

6. Killer Queen - 4 (one 4-point vote, Rd 1 PPV = 1.400)
7. Southern Cross - 4 (one 4-point vote, Rd 1 PPV = 0.833)
8. Hurt - 4 (no 4-point votes, one 3-point vote)
9. Down Under - 4 (no 4-point votes, no 3-point votes)
10. Baba O'Riley - 2

[Sir Ian Plätschisch]

TMT20 ROUND 3 - GROUPS 4 AND 5

Round 3 consists of five groups of ten songs each. The top five songs from each group advance according to the flowchart above. Groups are drawn randomly in such a way that each group contains two 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th place songs from Round 2.

We will vote on groups 1, 2, and 3 and then groups 4 and 5. Each voting period will last three days (72 hours). Votes cast after that will not be accepted, with the exception that we will always keep going until we have at least three votes per group.

Give your top four songs 4, 3, 2, and 1 points, respectively. You must give points to exactly three or four songs (awarding the 1-point vote is optional).

GROUP 4
Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)
Foo Fighters - Walk
Johnny Cash - Ring of Fire
Looking Glass - Brandy (You're a Fine Girl)
Muse - Knights of Cydonia
Muse - Uprising
Reckless Kelly - Seven Nights in Eire
Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter
Rolling Stones - You Can't Always Get What You Want
Sarah Jarosz - Run Away

GROUP 5
Alan Parsons Project - Sirius/Eye In The Sky
Blur - The Universal
Bon Jovi - You Give Love a Bad Name
Charlie Daniels Band - The Devil Went Down to Georgia
Dropkick Murphys - I'm Shipping Up To Boston
Mighty Mighty Bosstones - The Impression That I Get
Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy Train
Police - Message in a Bottle
Queen - Innuendo
Soundgarden - Black Hole Sun

Tiebreakers:
- Number of voters giving 4 points
- Number of voters giving 3 points
- Number of voters giving 2 points
- PPV in Round 2
- Last year's result (1 > 2 > ... > 20 > Round 4 > Round 3 > Round 2 > other)
- PPV in Round 1 (if applicable)
- Random chance

Tactical voting refers to either giving more points than you normally would to a song because it would make the difference between it going through or getting eliminated, or giving fewer points than you normally would to a song because it might kick a song you like even more out of the competition. This is hard to prevent, but my very strong request would be to not do it. Give points to the songs you believe deserve to go through, regardless of how others are voting. Doing otherwise reduces the value of votes that came before you, which is unfair to them. Remember that it's not a competition between voters, but a collective effort to make a nice list of songs we like. Thanks.

I did my best with all the links but there is always a chance some are broken or have a wrong version or bad audio quality. If a link is broken or you have a suggestion for a better link, please contact me or post the link in the thread. Officially, we are not voting on the YouTube link, but on the listed Artist + Title.

COMMENTARY ON THE PROGRESS OF THE GAME, THE RULES, WHAT SONGS YOU LIKE, ETC., IS VERY WELCOME.

[Tric'hard Lenxheir]

Group 4

4. Brandy (You're A Fine Girl)-Looking Glass
3. Ring Of Fire-Johnny Cash
2. Sweet Dreams (Are Made Of This)-Eurythmics
1. You Can't Always Get What You Want-Rolling Stones

Group 5

4. Devil Went Down To Georgia-Charlie Daniels Band
3. Crazy Train-Ozzy Osbourne
2. Sirius/Eye In The Sky-Alan Parsons Project
1. Innuendo-Queen