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Offline Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM

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56th Cosa Clark 2 Results
« on: October 01, 2021, 10:49:33 AM »
The October 2021 Clark is now here.


www.talossa.ca/files/clark.php?cosa=56&clark=2

Or here: www.talossa.ca/files/print_clark.php (this is the printer friendly version)


In PDF Form (which was made from the print_clark.php page):

www.talossa.ca/files/clarks/October2021Clark.pdf

or can vote online here: www.talossa.ca/files/clark_vote.php

Or in this thread, until the 21st of the month, at 19h30 TST.

Senators are allowed to create a single thread in the Senate chamber to post all of the Senate Votes that are not cast in this thread. Any votes not posted either using the form above, the current thread or the Senate thread might be ignored and void. Please do not vote by email or private messages.

When you vote, do not indicate any conditions which may make it sound like this vote isn't final: you can always change your vote later.

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All nominated Cosa Members and Senators have been emailed.



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« Last Edit: October 21, 2021, 09:05:58 PM by Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM »
Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM
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Re: 56th Cosa Clark 2 Now Open
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2021, 02:32:19 PM »
I vote për on everything


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Re: 56th Cosa Clark 2 Now Open
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2021, 08:50:39 PM »
Rz3=Për
Rz4=Për
Rz5=Për
Rz6=Contrâ
VOC= Uc
Túischac'h of the 55th Cosa
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Offline Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM

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Re: 56th Cosa Clark 2 Now Open
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2021, 04:24:56 PM »
I vote për on everything


F. I. Lux
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Did you have a vote on the VoC?
Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM
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Re: 56th Cosa Clark 2 Now Open
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2021, 08:44:51 PM »
I vote për on everything


F. I. Lux
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Did you have a vote on the VoC?
I vote ÜC

(sorry didn't realize I didn't put that there)


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Re: 56th Cosa Clark 2 Now Open
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2021, 03:30:44 PM »
RZ3 - Per

RZ4 - Per
Apologies for not finding the motivation/time to defend this in the Cosa when it was the subject of discussion. I do think Citaxhien Miestră's words are true and I thank her for coming up with this proposal, which I do hope will indeed improve the quality of our law making. I also thank her for accepting my amendments which will ensure that certain categories of bills for which additional scrutiny is not as necessary can pass the Cosa at the same rate as before. Of course, in case of emergencies there is still the Seneschal bypass.

I will note this particular clause in the bill: "6.5.3. The CRL may create further committees to which their functions may be delegated, as concerns any bill or category of bills. Such a committee must have at least 3 members, including at least 1 MC and at least 1 Senator.". I do hope that the CRL will use this clause and actually form Ziu commitees on particular bill categories/topics.

RZ5 - Con
I truly do appreciate the efforts of the Minister of Finance to answer my questions, especially considering his engagements outside Talossa. I also think the budget is the responsibility of the entire government and not just one person. I can't however, vote in favour of this. There doesn't seem to be any basis for the figure of 200$ as income from sales/donations this year and no (publicly available) government plan to reach that amount. There are no details on the registered agent plan and s;reu Tresplet does not seem to be around to tell us. This is important because there may be long term costs involved with this and the Ziu should really know what these are before acceding to this. Perhaps the government has inside information and plans about this that werent mentioned in the budget thread. I hope this is the case, but as I'm not part of the government I cannot just vote blindly on that hope.

RZ6 - Per

VoC - Non
I suppose since I'm voting against the budget this is the logical conclusion. Assuming the government will succeed in passing the budget regardless of my vote maybe I'll abstain again or vote per next time, depending on the government performance.

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Re: 56th Cosa Clark 2 Now Open
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2021, 09:05:07 PM »
56RZ3 Passed 145-0-0 in the Cosa; 7-0-0 in the Senate
56RZ4 Passed 131-00-14 in the Cosa; 5-2-0 in the Senate
56RZ5 Passed 134-11-0 7 in the Cosa; 7-0-0 in the Senate
56RZ6 Passed 80-31-34 in the Cosa; 6-1-0 in the Senate

The VoC passed 110-11-0

MZ's @Cresti da Ion Nouacastră-Läxhirescu, @Iason Taiwos, @Jordan Placie, and @Txoteu Davinescù did not vote.
Senator Eovart Grischun did not vote.



Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă,
Secretár d'Estat
Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM
Secretár d'Estat
Scribe of Abbavilla
Justice Emeritus of the Uppermost Cort
Dal Kingsbridge Pursuivant
Former Seneschal