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Started by Mic’haglh Autófil, SMC EiP, February 12, 2022, 05:16:50 AM

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Mic’haglh Autófil, SMC EiP

The only way I could see gambling on this flying under the radar is if we do it for Talossan currency :P

That being said, initially I had thought of this as more of a "provincial bragging rights" thing than anything else.
Minister of Technology
The Long Fellow, Royal Talossan College of Arms
Specialist, Els Zuávs da l'Altahál Rexhitál
Zirecteir Naziunal, Parti da Reformaziun

Tric'hard Lenxheir

Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil on February 18, 2022, 01:29:34 PM
The only way I could see gambling on this flying under the radar is if we do it for Talossan currency :P

That being said, initially I had thought of this as more of a "provincial bragging rights" thing than anything else.
I like this idea!
Tric'hard Lenxheir (Senator and Man Without A Party)

Mic’haglh Autófil, SMC EiP

Quote from: Tric'hard Lenxheir on February 18, 2022, 01:37:23 PM
Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil on February 18, 2022, 01:29:34 PM
The only way I could see gambling on this flying under the radar is if we do it for Talossan currency :P

That being said, initially I had thought of this as more of a "provincial bragging rights" thing than anything else.
I like this idea!

Which one, the putting a Louis on a game's outcome, or making it more for bragging rights? lol
Minister of Technology
The Long Fellow, Royal Talossan College of Arms
Specialist, Els Zuávs da l'Altahál Rexhitál
Zirecteir Naziunal, Parti da Reformaziun

Mic’haglh Autófil, SMC EiP

So just for reference, I simmed a quick season between the eight provincial teams, as a sort of sanity check. This what we got:

                                       Pld    W   L    GF   GA   GD 
1  Lacistaes da Maritiimi-Maxhestic     14    9   5   245  215  +30
2  Rexhitais da Vuode                   14    9   5   275  202  +73
3  Pastours da Florencia                14    7   7   212  237  −25
4  Capitais d'Atatürk                   14    7   7   257  239  +18
5  Soleighlen da Maricopa               14    7   7   247  232  +15
6  Bombardas da Cézembre                14    7   7   216  227  −11
7  Aquilas da Benito                    14    5   9   225  275  −50
8  Republicans da Fiôvâ                 14    5   9   216  266  −50

After adjusting the scoring odds as I mentioned earlier, we see scores usually down in the upper teens for the losing team and the mid-20s for the winners, which feels fair, I think.

So here's what I'm proposing:

  • A league of anywhere from 8-12 teams
  • 8 of these teams would represent the provinces
  • The remaining four spots would be open to whatever organization wants to throw their hat into the ring. Could be the RTCOA, Pengopats, the Zouaves, what have you
  • The teams could be organized into a "North" and "South" Division if we have the numbers.
  • Something like two games against each team (as above), or two against each divisional team and one against each team from the other division
  • Whatever schedule and playoff structure would make the most sense with such an arrangement
Minister of Technology
The Long Fellow, Royal Talossan College of Arms
Specialist, Els Zuávs da l'Altahál Rexhitál
Zirecteir Naziunal, Parti da Reformaziun

Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil on February 22, 2022, 10:06:24 PM
So just for reference, I simmed a quick season between the eight provincial teams, as a sort of sanity check. This what we got:

                                       Pld    W   L    GF   GA   GD 
1  Lacistaes da Maritiimi-Maxhestic     14    9   5   245  215  +30
2  Rexhitais da Vuode                   14    9   5   275  202  +73
3  Pastours da Florencia                14    7   7   212  237  −25
4  Capitais d'Atatürk                   14    7   7   257  239  +18
5  Soleighlen da Maricopa               14    7   7   247  232  +15
6  Bombardas da Cézembre                14    7   7   216  227  −11
7  Aquilas da Benito                    14    5   9   225  275  −50
8  Republicans da Fiôvâ                 14    5   9   216  266  −50

After adjusting the scoring odds as I mentioned earlier, we see scores usually down in the upper teens for the losing team and the mid-20s for the winners, which feels fair, I think.

So here's what I'm proposing:

  • A league of anywhere from 8-12 teams
  • 8 of these teams would represent the provinces
  • The remaining four spots would be open to whatever organization wants to throw their hat into the ring. Could be the RTCOA, Pengopats, the Zouaves, what have you
  • The teams could be organized into a "North" and "South" Division if we have the numbers.
  • Something like two games against each team (as above), or two against each divisional team and one against each team from the other division
  • Whatever schedule and playoff structure would make the most sense with such an arrangement

Not a huge fantasy sports person but this seems really awesome. Mic'haglh, I hope this takes off.

Mic’haglh Autófil, SMC EiP

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on February 23, 2022, 07:35:06 AM
Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil on February 22, 2022, 10:06:24 PM
So just for reference, I simmed a quick season between the eight provincial teams, as a sort of sanity check. This what we got:

                                       Pld    W   L    GF   GA   GD 
1  Lacistaes da Maritiimi-Maxhestic     14    9   5   245  215  +30
2  Rexhitais da Vuode                   14    9   5   275  202  +73
3  Pastours da Florencia                14    7   7   212  237  −25
4  Capitais d'Atatürk                   14    7   7   257  239  +18
5  Soleighlen da Maricopa               14    7   7   247  232  +15
6  Bombardas da Cézembre                14    7   7   216  227  −11
7  Aquilas da Benito                    14    5   9   225  275  −50
8  Republicans da Fiôvâ                 14    5   9   216  266  −50

After adjusting the scoring odds as I mentioned earlier, we see scores usually down in the upper teens for the losing team and the mid-20s for the winners, which feels fair, I think.

So here's what I'm proposing:

  • A league of anywhere from 8-12 teams
  • 8 of these teams would represent the provinces
  • The remaining four spots would be open to whatever organization wants to throw their hat into the ring. Could be the RTCOA, Pengopats, the Zouaves, what have you
  • The teams could be organized into a "North" and "South" Division if we have the numbers.
  • Something like two games against each team (as above), or two against each divisional team and one against each team from the other division
  • Whatever schedule and playoff structure would make the most sense with such an arrangement

Not a huge fantasy sports person but this seems really awesome. Mic'haglh, I hope this takes off.

Thank you! I do too :P
Minister of Technology
The Long Fellow, Royal Talossan College of Arms
Specialist, Els Zuávs da l'Altahál Rexhitál
Zirecteir Naziunal, Parti da Reformaziun

Breneir Tzaracomprada


Mic’haglh Autófil, SMC EiP

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on February 28, 2022, 02:39:50 AM
Any further developments here?

Not yet, I figure the league would probably go starting in like...April sometime? Pictured it as a summer thing. That said, at this point, I would be interested in hearing what people from each province thought of the nickname I had assigned to their team.
Minister of Technology
The Long Fellow, Royal Talossan College of Arms
Specialist, Els Zuávs da l'Altahál Rexhitál
Zirecteir Naziunal, Parti da Reformaziun

Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil on March 01, 2022, 02:58:21 PM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on February 28, 2022, 02:39:50 AM
Any further developments here?

Not yet, I figure the league would probably go starting in like...April sometime? Pictured it as a summer thing. That said, at this point, I would be interested in hearing what people from each province thought of the nickname I had assigned to their team.

Shepherds is perfect for Florencia. But I am, ultimately, partial to the Garibaldi Revolutionaries.

Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP

I believe some of the names are misspelled. What does "lacistà" mean?
Editing posts is my thing. My bad.
Feel free to PM me if you have a Glheþ translation request!

Mic’haglh Autófil, SMC EiP

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on March 01, 2022, 03:22:51 PM
Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil on March 01, 2022, 02:58:21 PM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on February 28, 2022, 02:39:50 AM
Any further developments here?

Not yet, I figure the league would probably go starting in like...April sometime? Pictured it as a summer thing. That said, at this point, I would be interested in hearing what people from each province thought of the nickname I had assigned to their team.

Shepherds is perfect for Florencia. But I am, ultimately, partial to the Garibaldi Revolutionaries.
I like that one, but these are at least based on the provinces as they currently exist. Let's keep that one in mind should it become necessary for the future.

Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial on March 01, 2022, 03:58:54 PM
I believe some of the names are misspelled. What does "lacistà" mean?

lac (lake) + -istà ("-ist, partisan or professional", according to the Treisour site)

Laceirs is a more obvious translation of what I was aiming for ("Lakers"), but -eir is described as the "doer of an action", and "lake" is not a verb..."lake professionals" felt less accurate (though they would be people employed on a lake), but at the same time more grammatically correct.
Minister of Technology
The Long Fellow, Royal Talossan College of Arms
Specialist, Els Zuávs da l'Altahál Rexhitál
Zirecteir Naziunal, Parti da Reformaziun

Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP

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Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil on March 01, 2022, 06:11:40 PM
lac (lake) + -istà ("-ist, partisan or professional", according to the Treisour site)

Laceirs is a more obvious translation of what I was aiming for ("Lakers"), but -eir is described as the "doer of an action", and "lake" is not a verb..."lake professionals" felt less accurate (though they would be people employed on a lake), but at the same time more grammatically correct.

In that case, a few things:

The Treisour website (I'm assuming you mean talossan.com?) is outdated. If I had direct access to the site I would update its contents but alas, I don't. The current most up-to-date dictionary is this one, and the most up-to-date grammar is here (caution: pretty technical in places, currently a work in progress)

Before adding an ending that begins with E or I to a word stem that ends in C, you have to add an H in between to preserve the hard C sound. This rule, although in force since at least the 90s, was never explicitly mentioned anywhere until last week when I added it to the up-to-date grammar. So the proper translation of "Lake-ist" would be lachistà. (EDIT: Actually it looks like this topic is more complicated than that... I'll have to discuss that with SIGN later.)

There are other typos in the team names as well, for exampe "Soleighlen" instead of "Soleiglhen" and the overly archaic spelling of "Fiôvâ". Sorry for dumping all of this info on you all at once though, I feel like I'm nitpicking...
Editing posts is my thing. My bad.
Feel free to PM me if you have a Glheþ translation request!

Mic’haglh Autófil, SMC EiP

Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial on March 01, 2022, 06:52:36 PM
Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil on March 01, 2022, 06:11:40 PM
lac (lake) + -istà ("-ist, partisan or professional", according to the Treisour site)

Laceirs is a more obvious translation of what I was aiming for ("Lakers"), but -eir is described as the "doer of an action", and "lake" is not a verb..."lake professionals" felt less accurate (though they would be people employed on a lake), but at the same time more grammatically correct.

In that case, a few things:

The Treisour website (I'm assuming you mean talossan.com?) is outdated. If I had direct access to the site I would update its contents but alas, I don't. The current most up-to-date dictionary is this one, and the most up-to-date grammar is here (caution: pretty technical in places, currently a work in progress)

Ok that's actually incredibly helpful to know, because yes, talossan.com is what I was using.

QuoteBefore adding an ending that begins with E or I to a word stem that ends in C, you have to add an H in between to preserve the hard C sound. This rule, although in force since at least the 90s, was never explicitly mentioned anywhere until last week when I added it to the up-to-date grammar. So the proper translation of "Lake-ist" would be lachistà. (EDIT: Actually it looks like this topic is more complicated than that... I'll have to discuss that with SIGN later.)

This rule I knew, but I think I initially came up with these names before I knew it and neglected to go back and change anything.

QuoteThere are other typos in the team names as well, for exampe "Soleighlen" instead of "Soleiglhen" and the overly archaic spelling of "Fiôvâ". Sorry for dumping all of this info on you all at once though, I feel like I'm nitpicking...

No worries, gotta learn somehow, right? "Soleighlen" was an honest typo, but "Fiôvâ" is how I've generally seen it on both here and the wiki so I didn't want to do the "Fine Folks of Fiôvâ" a disservice by misspelling their province. I'm assuming at least one of those accents is gone nowadays?
Minister of Technology
The Long Fellow, Royal Talossan College of Arms
Specialist, Els Zuávs da l'Altahál Rexhitál
Zirecteir Naziunal, Parti da Reformaziun

Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP

Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil on March 01, 2022, 08:47:34 PM
No worries, gotta learn somehow, right? "Soleighlen" was an honest typo, but "Fiôvâ" is how I've generally seen it on both here and the wiki so I didn't want to do the "Fine Folks of Fiôvâ" a disservice by misspelling their province. I'm assuming at least one of those accents is gone nowadays?

It's a question of stylistic consistency, I guess. "Fiôvâ" is in the pre-2007 spelling that was/is popular with the Republicans even after Reunision, while in the 2007 spelling reform that was popular with the Kingdom it was changed to "Fiova". Nowadays the prefered spelling is "Fiovă", but which spelling to choose is a matter of which style youre using and staying consistent with that. Since you're not using Ă anywhere else (which is valid), it wouldn't make much sense to use it here either. So the two remaining styles would be the pre-2007 version Repúblicáes da Fiôvâ, and the 2007 version Republicaes da Fiova. The latter would be consistent with the other names, but the former would be particularly on brand for Fiovă so the choice is yours.

Finally to get back to the original topic of the thread, I'm a huge fan of this idea here, and I hope it succedes.
Editing posts is my thing. My bad.
Feel free to PM me if you have a Glheþ translation request!

Mic’haglh Autófil, SMC EiP

Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial on March 01, 2022, 09:02:51 PM
Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil on March 01, 2022, 08:47:34 PM
No worries, gotta learn somehow, right? "Soleighlen" was an honest typo, but "Fiôvâ" is how I've generally seen it on both here and the wiki so I didn't want to do the "Fine Folks of Fiôvâ" a disservice by misspelling their province. I'm assuming at least one of those accents is gone nowadays?

It's a question of stylistic consistency, I guess. "Fiôvâ" is in the pre-2007 spelling that was/is popular with the Republicans even after Reunision, while in the 2007 spelling reform that was popular with the Kingdom it was changed to "Fiova". Nowadays the prefered spelling is "Fiovă", but which spelling to choose is a matter of which style youre using and staying consistent with that. Since you're not using Ă anywhere else (which is valid), it wouldn't make much sense to use it here either. So the two remaining styles would be the pre-2007 version Repúblicáes da Fiôvâ, and the 2007 version Republicaes da Fiova. The latter would be consistent with the other names, but the former would be particularly on brand for Fiovă so the choice is yours.

Finally to get back to the original topic of the thread, I'm a huge fan of this idea here, and I hope it succedes.
I'm leaving it up to them, which leads me to believe it won't be changed, lol

But thank you! Fingers crossed  :D
Minister of Technology
The Long Fellow, Royal Talossan College of Arms
Specialist, Els Zuávs da l'Altahál Rexhitál
Zirecteir Naziunal, Parti da Reformaziun