The Unsanctified Act

[Baron Alexandreu Davinescu]

WHEREAS there is a large legal loophole that would permit virtually any crime, including very serious crimes such as threats of sexual assault, theft, bribery, or anything else, and

WHEREAS the problem lies with the fact that we're offering unlimited and unqualified sanctuary under terms which clearly reference the medieval Christian practice of offering church protection from secular law, thereby allowing anyone to claim the right of sanctuary if accused of crimes, and

WHEREAS it's hard to find any other way to interpret this bit of the law so that it makes sense, and so therefore this reading probably is going to be a valid one, or at the very least would be an incredible complication that might make it impossible to prosecute someone, and

WHEREAS no one has yet taken advantage of it, but there's no reason to think that will last forever,

THEREFORE the tenth section of Title A of el Lexhatx, which currently reads

10. The Ziu hereby recognizes the historic right of churches and other religious organizations to offer sanctuary to individuals in dire need.

is hereby stricken in its entirety.

FURTHERMORE, the words "Except as provided in A.17," shall be struck from section 16.

FURTHERMORE, the Scribe is directed to renumber Title A in a sensible fashion.

Uréu q'estadra så:
Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

[Miestră Schivă, UrN]

Church sanctuaries were regulated by common law. An asylum seeker had to confess his sins, surrender his weapons, and permit supervision by a church or abbey organization with jurisdiction. Seekers then had forty days to decide whether to surrender to secular authorities and stand trial for their alleged crimes, or to confess their guilt, abjure the realm, and go into exile by the shortest route and never return without the king's permission. Those who did return faced execution under the law or excommunication from the Church.

Given those traditions, it seems harmless; but IMHO it has to be seen in the wider question of what status is granted to any religious organizations under Talossan law.

[Ian Plätschisch]

The FreeDems will be happy to work with you on this just as soon as the TNC fulfills its campaign promise to their voters.

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

The FreeDems will be happy to work with you on this just as soon as the TNC fulfills its campaign promise to their voters the TNC submits to our threats and helps us achieve what voters did not give us a mandate to achieve at the ballot box!

Fixed it for you.

[Baron Alexandreu Davinescu]

The FreeDems will be happy to work with you on this just as soon as the TNC fulfills its campaign promise to their voters.

The Government has declared that they will vote down all TNC bills, no matter their merits, until we comply with their demands.  We categorically reject all attempts to threaten us into obedience.  After all, if we meekly submit today, you'll be back tomorrow with another demand.

I'm going to proceed normally with proposing laws that fix serious problems in our system and which actually help Talossans.  I'm working on a draft of a bill to fix some problems that V and I noticed when I got started as Clerk, and I'm working on a transparency bill to help people keep track of what personal information the Government has, fixing a problem with our current transparency laws.  I stand with my party.  If you guys need to fulfil your threats, then do what you have to do.  We'll let the voters decide if you made the right decision.

[Ian Plätschisch]

The FreeDems will be happy to work with you on this just as soon as the TNC fulfills its campaign promise to their voters the TNC submits to our threats and helps us achieve what voters did not give us a mandate to achieve at the ballot box!

Fixed it for you.

If you consider the fact that the TNC also promised monarchy reform, there is actually a huge mandate for it.

[Baron Alexandreu Davinescu]

Yeah, making hostile demands and threats can mess up even a good working environment.

[Miestră Schivă, UrN]

The Senator from Florencia has been uncompromisingly nasty to me, personally, since he flounced from the previous coalition. He didn't even dignify the former Seneschal's apology with a response. The TNC election campaign was unremittingly negative and personalised, again against me personally. The working environment has been toxic for a long time - but y'all didn't mind as long as the toxicity was only going one way.

[Miestră Schivă, UrN]

BTW, perhaps a note on the terms of the legislative boycott. I'm personally happy to work on drafts of TNC legislation in the Hopper (although I suppose the TNC are entitled to tell me to ir mhe façar hútschar , given the circumstances), because I don't anticipate the boycott will last forever, and I hope to be able to vote for good TNC-sponsored legislation sometime this term.

[Baron Alexandreu Davinescu]

The Senator from Florencia has been uncompromisingly nasty to me, personally, since he flounced from the previous coalition. He didn't even dignify the former Seneschal's apology with a response. The TNC election campaign was unremittingly negative and personalised, again against me personally. The working environment has been toxic for a long time - but y'all didn't mind as long as the toxicity was only going one way.

A majority of your recent speeches to your party have engaged in attacks on me, personally, often involving elaborate and childish name-calling.  In fact, an attack on me was a centerpiece for your last major party address, calling me the "worst person in the world" as a setup for saying that, even though I was awful and wrong all the time, I was right when I pointed out your party's disastrous failures last term.

If your flexible memory needs the assistance of a link to the post, I am happy to supply it.

BTW, perhaps a note on the terms of the legislative boycott. I'm personally happy to work on drafts of TNC legislation in the Hopper (although I suppose the TNC are entitled to tell me to ir mhe façar hútschar , given the circumstances), because I don't anticipate the boycott will last forever, and I hope to be able to vote for good TNC-sponsored legislation sometime this term.

I will continue to write and propose and comment on legislation, and I will value your counsel to the same degree as always.

[Miestră Schivă, UrN]

an attack on me was a centerpiece for your last major party address, calling me the "worst person in the world"

... for those following at home, he's referring to this speech referencing this famous meme. I would assume that most people would read that and see "light-hearted trolling of a political opponent while recognizing that they have a point on some issues". I would have actually considered it quite respectful, a back-handed compliment if you will. But this appears to be another case of "Sir Trotxa and the Killer Rabbit", if anyone remembers that sorry history. One person's friendly trolling is perceived as a grievous attack on the personal honour of the other, to be stewed over, to be used as a justification for retaliation somewhere down the line.

And none of this answers the question of what I ever did to Breneir!

[Baron Alexandreu Davinescu]

an attack on me was a centerpiece for your last major party address, calling me the "worst person in the world"

... for those following at home, he's referring to this speech referencing this famous meme. I would assume that most people would read that and see "light-hearted trolling of a political opponent while recognizing that they have a point on some issues". I would have actually considered it quite respectful, a back-handed compliment if you will. But this appears to be another case of "Sir Trotxa and the Killer Rabbit", if anyone remembers that sorry history. One person's friendly trolling is perceived as a grievous attack on the personal honour of the other, to be stewed over, to be used as a justification for retaliation somewhere down the line.

If you think you're being respectful and complimentary, then you have larger problems than anyone here can solve. Maybe you've noticed other occasions besides these two, where your respectful compliments went awry? Do you think all the other insults directed at me, in paragraph length in your speeches, are somehow also supposed to be received as respectful compliments? Was I supposed to be flattered when you implied I was a rapist?
EDIT: Actually, as memory serves, you didn't imply directly that I was a rapist, you just said I was using a rapist's tactics.

[Miestră Schivă, UrN]

... continued elsewhere

[Ian Plätschisch]

Yeah, making hostile demands and threats can mess up even a good working environment.

Take five minutes to do something you've already pledged to do. You are making a mountain out a molehill.

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

Let us know when the blockade has ended. Best of luck on RZ3.