The Unsanctified Act

Started by Baron Alexandreu Davinescu, May 31, 2022, 08:25:27 AM

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Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

Last term, this bill was blocked due to the Government legislative blockade.  Legally, I was thus barred from reintroducing it during the same session.  I intend to reintroduce it in the coming term.  The bill will be nearly identical -- I don't think it needs any significant changes.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan


Bitter struggles deform their participants in subtle, complicated ways. ― Zadie Smith
Revolution is an art that I pursue rather than a goal I expect to achieve. ― Robert Heinlein

Miestră Schivă, UrN

I'm still going to vote against it, if I'm an MC again. The right to sanctuary is a time-honoured one.

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Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on January 03, 2023, 02:33:33 PMThe right to sanctuary is a time-honoured one.
And what does it mean in a Talossan context?  Does it mean that I can break the law and then say that I'm claiming sanctuary from Talossans United in Christ or some other religion, and therefore I can't be prosecuted?  Or do I have to go a church physically and take a picture that I'm in there, and then I can do some more crimes?
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan


Bitter struggles deform their participants in subtle, complicated ways. ― Zadie Smith
Revolution is an art that I pursue rather than a goal I expect to achieve. ― Robert Heinlein

Miestră Schivă, UrN

That second one! It sounds funnier.

Seriously, I can't believe we're in a position where I'm the one arguing against you against abolishing a quirky Talossan tradition. It's usually the other way around.

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Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

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Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on January 03, 2023, 03:02:21 PMThat second one! It sounds funnier.

I'm not sure I want a Talossan who has been stalking or sexually harassing another Talossan, as an example, to be able to evade justice.  This law will be a lot less cute and funny if someone does something grotesque and then gets to hang around because of an enabling system.

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on January 03, 2023, 03:02:21 PMSeriously, I can't believe we're in a position where I'm the one arguing against you against abolishing a quirky Talossan tradition. It's usually the other way around.
It's a minor provision in the law that's never been used that originates in a bill that was clearly intended to be a messaging bill.  I didn't cut it from the legal code when I was putting together el Lexhatx because I tried to include literally everything I could to avoid any potential fights.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan


Bitter struggles deform their participants in subtle, complicated ways. ― Zadie Smith
Revolution is an art that I pursue rather than a goal I expect to achieve. ― Robert Heinlein

Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

I am reintroducing this act, unchanged.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan


Bitter struggles deform their participants in subtle, complicated ways. ― Zadie Smith
Revolution is an art that I pursue rather than a goal I expect to achieve. ― Robert Heinlein

Miestră Schivă, UrN

Going to advise the FreeDems majority in the Senäts to reject any changes to this ancient, quirky Talossan tradition

Vote THE FREE DEMOCRATS OF TALOSSA
¡LADINTSCHIÇETZ-VOI - rogetz-mhe cacsa!
"They proved me right, they proved me wrong, but they could never last this long"

Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on February 04, 2023, 02:45:57 PMGoing to advise the FreeDems majority in the Senäts to reject any changes to this ancient, quirky Talossan tradition
As I said, it's a minor provision in the law that's never been used, and it originates from a messaging bill.  It has no conceivable use except perhaps as a legal loophole to help someone escape justice.  If the Ziu affirmatively chooses to debate the provision and retain it, that will lend it real weight as a possible strategy.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan


Bitter struggles deform their participants in subtle, complicated ways. ― Zadie Smith
Revolution is an art that I pursue rather than a goal I expect to achieve. ― Robert Heinlein

Üc R. Tärfă

This bill has already been submitted to committee, but I must point out - again, my previous post was lost in the second data loss I believe- that the relevant subsection in the Lexhatx is § A.9 and not § A.10 (both in text and the quoted part).

Moreover, if I remember well in the last version pre-data loss the renumbering clause was omitted, which I still think it is the best course of action.
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Üc R. Tärfă

I reiterate my polite request to the proposer to leave this proposal in the Hopper for a while, the renumbering of precisely those sections is one of the parts I am trying to get to the bottom of.

Since it is not too urgent and since Title A is not particularly critical, I hope it will be possible to wait a little longer before clarking it.
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Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan


Bitter struggles deform their participants in subtle, complicated ways. ― Zadie Smith
Revolution is an art that I pursue rather than a goal I expect to achieve. ― Robert Heinlein

Üc R. Tärfă

Üc Rêntz'ëfiglheu Tärfâ
Membreu dal Cosă | Distain Grefieir d'Abbavilla
FREEDEMS President | Presedint dels Democrätici Livereschti
Keys to the Kingdom (Cézembre), Stalwart of the Four Stars (Fiovă)