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Started by Iason Taiwos, July 07, 2022, 08:28:26 PM

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Iason Taiwos

(I wanted to add, tho, that the depictions of black people in these early Asterix books are pretty...well, racist. Hopefully they moved away from that as the series went on. These new American editions have a disclaimer that just says they are presenting it as originally drawn, but not mentioning why there's a need to even state that.)

Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC

Quote from: Iason Taiwos on May 23, 2024, 04:31:06 PM(I wanted to add, tho, that the depictions of black people in these early Asterix books are pretty...well, racist. Hopefully they moved away from that as the series went on. These new American editions have a disclaimer that just says they are presenting it as originally drawn, but not mentioning why there's a need to even state that.)

Unfortunately, the broad racial caricatures remained at least until the mid-80s (and don't get me started about the Jewish caricatures in _Asterix in the land of black gold_). At least in the English translations, though, black characters eventually started talking normally rather than in what Frank Zappa would have called "comedy negrocious dialect". What can you say, it's France.

I didn't know they got a new translation, though, among professional translators the Bell/Hockridge translations are renowned for being examples of top-quality cross-cultural translations of humour; will have to check that out. But you can get weird about "accessibility for the kids". There is a French film called La Haine (1995) about kids from a deprived suburb getting up to mischief in Paris. They go to the house of a drug dealer who is a small skinny guy they call "Asterix". In the original American dub, they changed that to "Charlie Brown" because they didn't think US kids would get the reference.

(I have no idea what modern translations would do with, for example, references to The Beatles in _Asterix in Britain_, or the way that the main antagonist in _Obelix & Co_ is a caricature of Jacques Chirac.)

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Iason Taiwos

Well, for changing "Getafix" back to "Panoramix", I assumed it was because of the drug connotations. ("This is America! We have an opioid crisis! You can't keep calling the druid 'Getafix'!")

GV


Iason Taiwos

Quote from: GV on May 27, 2024, 09:19:57 PMPrince Valiant.  'Nuff said.
Indeed. Hal Foster was one of greatest.

Bråneu Excelsio, UrN

A few months ago, a fellow coffee shop owner gave me this as a birthday present (the right one).
It's now my most precious pannapictagraphist item.
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Iason Taiwos

Quote from: Bråneu Excelsio on May 30, 2024, 04:07:59 PMA few months ago, a fellow coffee shop owner gave me this as a birthday present (the right one).
It's now my most precious pannapictagraphist item.

I've seen some of these before! And almost bought one. (The comics store Vitxalmour Conductour and I frequent (New Dinension Comics, in Ellwood City, Pennsylvania) every so often has a "secret warehouse sale" at another location. Usually it's in an old potato chip factory. The guy who owns New Dimension buys all the stock from other comics stores that apparently have shut down, and holds these sales where every book is only a dollar. When we go there, I assemble two different stacks: "must purchase", and "maybe purchase". I've found some genuine treasures at these sales, but at check out time a lot of the maybe purchase books are left behind. Too Much Coffee Man was one of the ones left behind. (And I still spent $164 at the last sale.) (For all I know, Vitx may have bought it.)

Mic’haglh Autófil, O.Be

Quote from: Bråneu Excelsio on May 30, 2024, 04:07:59 PMA few months ago, a fellow coffee shop owner gave me this as a birthday present (the right one).
It's now my most precious pannapictagraphist item.


You may be interested to know that at one point, in a TN issue long past (and never completed), I had a cartoon drafted in which you were depicted with an IV drip of coffee. (Also since you didn't have arms yet you were the city flag of Monterrey, but that's thankfully no longer the case.)
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Bråneu Excelsio, UrN

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Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil, SMC EiP on May 31, 2024, 12:35:10 AM
Quote from: Bråneu Excelsio on May 30, 2024, 04:07:59 PMA few months ago, a fellow coffee shop owner gave me this as a birthday present (the right one).
It's now my most precious pannapictagraphist item.


You may be interested to know that at one point, in a TN issue long past (and never completed), I had a cartoon drafted in which you were depicted with an IV drip of coffee. (Also since you didn't have arms yet you were the city flag of Monterrey, but that's thankfully no longer the case.)
Hahaha sounds amazing !!
Im really happy with the idea that it was a thought and a draft (: thank you
Minister of Defence. COFFEE founder.