2023 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]

[Sir Lüc]

I'm kinda surprised at the absence of true stacks so far (inb4 one of the remaining R2 groups proves me wrong)

why did i even say that

group 7 is so massive a stack they had to bring in a forklift to carry it, and group 8 is so weak that it basically guarantees a similar (but likely not as massive) stack in either of the remaining groups :(

[Gjermund Higraff]

Group 7...it hurt to choose one over the other. And then choose yet another over the first choice. For group 8 I contemplated just awarding points to three, and I felt even that was stretching it, but rules are rules.

[Sir Ian Plätschisch]

and group 8 is so weak that it basically guarantees a similar (but likely not as massive) stack in either of the remaining groups :(

Just as I was thinking to myself that Group 8 is stacked :P

[Gjermund Higraff]

Would have been a boring vote if everyone agreed, though🙂

[þerxh Sant-Enogat]

GROUP 7
4- Radiohead - Paranoid Android
3- Peter Gabriel - My Body is a Cage
2- Laama - Talossa
1- Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil

GROUP 8
4- Editors - Smokers Outside the Hospital Doors
3- Nickelback - How You Remind Me
2 - Coldplay - Fix You
1- Måneskin - Zitti E Buoni

[Gjermund Higraff]

Talossa-related trivia: I was given the Nickelback album "Silver Side Up" by a citizen residing in Canada, most likely in 2001, because a record store clerk recommended it as it was "popular". I don't remember who gave it to me, but I have it on a shelf somewhere. Could be because I distributed mix tapes with the name "Back Page Tape" at the time, and I got something in return. it's long ago and I'm old, so I don't remember, ok? 😂 I can't really claim to have listened to it since 2001 though.

[Tric'hard Lenxheir]

Group 7

4. Queen & David Bowie-Under Pressure
3. Dire Straits-Telegraph Road
2. Doobie Brothers-Long Train Running
1. Rolling Stones-Sympathy For The Devil

Group 8

4. Ozzy Osbourne-Crazy Train
3. Eagles-Lyin' Eyes
2. Eagles-Midnight Flyer
1. Bon Jovi-You Give Love A Bad Name

[Sir Ian Plätschisch]

GROUP 7
4. Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil
3. Doobie Brothers - Long Train Runnin'
2. Franz Ferdinand - Take Me Out
1. Dire Straits - Telegraph Road

GROUP 8
4. Bon Jovi - You Give Love a Bad Name
3. Måneskin - Zitti E Buoni
2. Nickelback - How You Remind Me
1. Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy Train

It just occurred to me that between these two groups there are three songs about trains.

[Sir Lüc]

GROUP 7 - I already know I will be heartbroken but to be fair things went largely my way so far
4. Under Pressure
3. Innuendo
2. Telegraph Road
1. My Body is a Cage
HMs: Paranoid Android, Take Me Out

GROUP 8
4. I Will Survive
3. Crazy Train
2. Smokers Outside the Hospital Doors
1. Zitti E Buoni

[Placiej]

GROUP 7
1 Dire Straits - Telegraph Road
4 Doobie Brothers - Long Train Runnin'
3 Franz Ferdinand - Take Me Out
2 Queen and David Bowie - Under Pressure


GROUP 8
2 Bon Jovi - You Give Love a Bad Name
3 Eagles - Lyin' Eyes
1 Nickelback - How You Remind Me
4 Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy Train

[Erschéveþ da Schir]

GROUP 7
4- Queen - Innuendo
3- Queen and David Bowie - Under Pressure
2- Dire Straits - Telegraph Road
1- Paul McCartney and Eric Clapton - While My Guitar Gently Weeps

GROUP 8
4- Gloria Gaynor - I Will Survive
3- Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy Train
2- Nickelback - How You Remind Me
1- Måneskin - Zitti E Buoni

[Sir Ian Plätschisch]

GROUP 7
1. Telegraph Road - 15
2. Under Pressure - 13
3. Paranoid Android - 11 (two 4-point votes)
4. Sympathy for the Devil - 11 (one 4-point vote)
5. Long Train Runnin' - 10
6. Innuendo - 8
7. Take Me Out - 5
8. My Body is a Cage - 4
9. Talossa - 2
10. While My Guitar Gently Weeps - 1

GROUP 8
1. Crazy Train - 17
2. Smokers Outside the Hospital Doors - 14
3. I Will Survive - 9
4. How You Remind Me - 8
5. You Give Love a Bad Name - 7
6. Lyin' Eyes - 6 (two 3-point votes)
7. Fix You - 6 (one 3-point vote, one 2-point vote)
8. Zitti E Buoni - 6 (one 3-point vote, no 2-point votes)
9. Mondscheinsonate, 3rd movement - 5
10. Midnight Flyer - 2

You Give Love a Bad Name is the first song to get out of Round 2 this year with fewer than one point per voter.

[Sir Ian Plätschisch]

2023 TMT20 ROUND 2

Round 2 consists of ten groups of ten songs each. The top five songs in each group advance to Round 3.

Groups are drawn randomly in such a way that each group contains one 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th place song from Round 1, 2-3 songs eliminated in Round 3 last year, 0-1 songs eliminated in Round 4 last year, 1 song ranked between 11-20 last year, and 1 song ranked between 1-10 last year.

We will vote on groups two at a time (although you can vote on only one of the groups if you want). Each voting period will last three days (72 hours). Votes cast after that will not be accepted, with the exception that we will always keep going until we have at least three votes per group.

Give your top four songs 4, 3, 2, and 1 points, respectively. You must give points to exactly three or four songs (awarding the 1-point vote is optional).

GROUP 9
Crosby, Stills and Nash - Southern Cross
David Bowie - Starman
Fleetwood Mac - The Chain
Franco Battiato - Centro di Gravità Permanente
Johnny Cash - Hurt
Muse - Knights of Cydonia
Police - Roxanne
Rush - Subdivisions
Soundgarden - Black Hole Sun
Teho Teardo and Blixa Bargeld - A Quiet Life

GROUP 10
Aaron Copeland - Fanfare for the Common Man
Alan Parsons Project - Sirius/Eye In The Sky
Earth, Wind and Fire - September
Foo Fighters - Walk
Gaelic Storm - Rum Runners
Kenny Rogers - The Gambler
New Order - Blue Monday
Queen - Killer Queen
Talking Heads - Once in a Lifetime
Trans-Siberian Orchestra - Christmas Eve / Sarajevo

Tiebreakers:
- Number of voters giving 4 points
- Number of voters giving 3 points
- Number of voters giving 2 points
- Last year's result (1 > 2 > ... > 20 > Round 4 > Round 3 > Round 2 > other)
- PPV in Round 1 (if applicable)
- Random chance

Tactical voting refers to either giving more points than you normally would to a song because it would make the difference between it going through or getting eliminated, or giving fewer points than you normally would to a song because it might kick a song you like even more out of the competition. This is hard to prevent, but my very strong request would be to not do it. Give points to the songs you believe deserve to go through, regardless of how others are voting. Doing otherwise reduces the value of votes that came before you, which is unfair to them. Remember that it's not a competition between voters, but a collective effort to make a nice list of songs we like. Thanks.

I did my best with all the links but there is always a chance some are broken or have a wrong version or bad audio quality. If a link is broken or you have a suggestion for a better link, please contact me or post the link in the thread. Officially, we are not voting on the YouTube link, but on the listed Artist + Title.

COMMENTARY ON THE PROGRESS OF THE GAME, THE RULES, WHAT SONGS YOU LIKE, ETC., IS VERY WELCOME.

[Sir Ian Plätschisch]

GROUP 9
4. Fleetwood Mac - The Chain
3. Muse - Knights of Cydonia
2. Crosby, Stills and Nash - Southern Cross

GROUP 10
4. Trans-Siberian Orchestra - Christmas Eve / Sarajevo
3. Gaelic Storm - Rum Runners
2. Foo Fighters - Walk
1. Earth, Wind and Fire - September
HM. Kenny Rogers - The Gambler
HM. Queen - Killer Queen

[þerxh Sant-Enogat]

GROUP 9
4- Teho Teardo and Blixa Bargeld - A Quiet Life
3- Johnny Cash - Hurt
2- Police - Roxanne
1- Soundgarden - Black Hole Sun

GROUP 10
4- New Order - Blue Monday
3- Talking Heads - Once in a Lifetime
2- Foo Fighters - Walk