2023 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]

[Tric’hard Lenxheir]

Group 7

3. Pink Floyd-Wish You Were Here
2. Queen-Don't Stop Me Now
1. Boston-More Than A Feeling

Group 8

3. Adult Cinema-Dreamt The Other Night
2. Police-Roxanne
1. Frank Sinatra-My Way (though I prefer the Elvis Presley version)

[Sir Ian Plätschisch]

Group 7 is very tough for me.

GROUP 7
3 - KB ft. Lecrae - Church Clap
2 - John Fogerty - Centerfield
1 - Bob Segar - Old Time Rock and Roll
HM - Queen - Don't Stop Me Now
HM - Nena - Irgendwie, Irgendwo, Irgendwann
HM - Boston - More Than a Feeling

GROUP 8
3 - Måneskin - Zitti E Buoni
2 - Dan Tyminski - Southern Gothic
1 - Queen and David Bowie - Under Pressure

[Sir Lüc]

GROUP 7
3 - Irgendwie, Irgendwo, Irgendwann
2 - How Deep is Your Love
1 - Street Spirit (Fade Out)

GROUP 8
3 - Under Pressure
2 - Roxanne
1 - Zitti e Buoni

[Erschéveþ da Schir]

GROUP 7
3- Queen - Don't Stop Me Now
2- Bee Gees - How Deep is Your Love
1- Boston - More Than a Feeling

GROUP 8
3- Queen and David Bowie - Under Pressure
2- Police - Roxanne
1- Måneskin - Zitti E Buoni

[Glüc]

Group 7
3 Street Spirit
2 School
1 Nena

Group 8
3 How Soon is Now
2 Under Pressure
1 Roxanne

[Sir Ian Plätschisch]

GROUP 7
1. Wish You Were Here - 11
2. Street Spirit (Fade Out) - 7
3. Don't Stop Me Now - 6
4. Centerfield - 5 (one 3-point vote)
5. More Than a Feeling - 5 (no 3-point votes)
6. Irgendwie, Irgendwo, Irgendwann - 4 (one 3-point vote)
7. How Deep is Your Love - 4 (no 3-point votes)
8. Church Clap - 3
9. School - 2
10. Old Time Rock and Roll - 1

GROUP 8
1. Under Pressure - 12
2. Roxanne - 10
3. How Soon is Now? - 9
4. Southern Gothic - 5 (one 2-point vote)
5. Zitti E Buoni - 5 (no 2-point votes)
6. Dreamt the Other Night - 4
7. Run Away - 2
8. My Way - 1
9. The Creep - 0
10. Pressure and Slide - 0

[Sir Ian Plätschisch]

A few observations before we wrap up Round 1:
- I will define the "Disappointment Index" of a group as the total PPV awarded to songs that were eliminated (remember that each voter gets six total points in Round 1). Group 8 has a remarkably low Disappointment Index of only 0.875, and it is the only group for which it is less than 1. Group 3 has the highest so far at 2.
- We have somehow not needed any of the tiebreakers yet for determining which songs will advance.

[Sir Ian Plätschisch]

Round 1 of the Talossan Music Top 20 - 2023!

Many thanks to everyone who nominated songs. Of course, people who did not are still very welcome to participate.

Round 1 consists of ten groups of ten songs each. The top five songs in each group advance to Round 2 (and are given entry into next year's TMT20).

Groups are drawn randomly in such a way that each group contains one 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, and 10th place song from a Round 2 group last year, 4-5 new nominations, and 0-1 songs from the 2022-2023 Special Edition.

We will vote on groups two at a time (although you can vote on only one of the groups if you want). Each voting period will last three days (72 hours). Votes cast after that will not be accepted, with the exception that we will always keep going until we have at least three votes per group.

Give your top three songs 3, 2, and 1 points, respectively. You must give points to exactly three songs.

GROUP 9
After the Dust - Heartsick Lullaby
Dead Kennedys - Holiday in Cambodia
Doobie Brothers - Long Train Runnin'
Elton John - I'm Still Standing
Ludwig von Beethoven - 9th Symphony in D minor, Op. 125, 4th movement
Nickelback - How You Remind Me
Paolo Conte - Gli Impermeabili
Pearl Jam - Rearviewmirror
Stromae - Santé
The Band, And The Staples  - The Weight (The Last Waltz)

GROUP 10
Ceann - Old Dun Cow
CMAT ft. John Grant - Where Are Your Kids Tonight
Dave Brubeck Quartet - Take Five
Gaelic Storm - Rum Runners
Louis Armstrong - What a Wonderful World
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - The Mercy Seat
Panic! At The Disco - High Hopes
Peter Gabriel - My Body is a Cage
The Band - It Makes No Difference
The Naked and Famous - Higher

Tiebreakers:
- Number of voters giving 3 points
- Number of voters giving 2 points
- Last year's result (Special Edition > Round 2 > Other)
- Last year's Round 2 Rank
- Random chance

Any song eliminated by random chance (and any song eliminated by random chance last year that is eliminated based on last year's result) will be given entry into next year's TMT20.

Tactical voting refers to either giving more points than you normally would to a song because it would make the difference between it going through or getting eliminated, or giving fewer points than you normally would to a song because it might kick a song you like even more out of the competition. This is hard to prevent, but my very strong request would be to not do it. Give points to the songs you believe deserve to go through, regardless of how others are voting. Doing otherwise reduces the value of votes that came before you, which is unfair to them. Remember that it's not a competition between voters, but a collective effort to make a nice list of songs we like. Thanks.

I did my best with all the links but there is always a chance some are broken or have a wrong version or bad audio quality. If a link is broken or you have a suggestion for a better link, please contact me or post the link in the thread. Officially, we are not voting on the YouTube link, but on the listed Artist + Title.

COMMENTARY ON THE PROGRESS OF THE GAME, THE RULES, WHAT SONGS YOU LIKE, ETC., IS VERY WELCOME.

[Sir Ian Plätschisch]

GROUP 9
3 - Doobie Brothers - Long Train Runnin'
2 - Nickelback - How You Remind Me
1 - Elton John - I'm Still Standing

GROUP 10
3 - Panic! At The Disco - High Hopes
2 - Gaelic Storm - Rum Runners
1 - The Naked and Famous - Higher
HM - Ceann - Old Dun Cow

[Glüc]

A few observations before we wrap up Round 1:
- I will define the "Disappointment Index" of a group as the total PPV awarded to songs that were eliminated (remember that each voter gets six total points in Round 1). Group 8 has a remarkably low Disappointment Index of only 0.875, and it is the only group for which it is less than 1. Group 3 has the highest so far at 2.
- We have somehow not needed any of the tiebreakers yet for determining which songs will advance.

Interesting stats.

To me it seems like round 2 was pretty rough last year, with a lot of personal favourites getting eliminated and ending up in this round 1. At the same time there have been quite a number of awesome new nominations, including some nice discoveries, this year, so this may have been one of the strongest rounds 1 we've ever had. Even so, while there were a couple minor dissapointments, I'm quite happy with the results so far. I suppose that means round 2 is going to be very strong as well.

Group 9 is gonna be another difficult group to vote on. I immediately would like to give points to at least six of these songs...

[Placiej]

GROUP 9

2 Dead Kennedys - Holiday in Cambodia

3 Doobie Brothers - Long Train Runnin'


1 Nickelback - How You Remind Me


GROUP 10
1 Ceann - Old Dun Cow

3 Dave Brubeck Quartet - Take Five

2 Gaelic Storm - Rum Runners

[þerxh Sant-Enogat]

GROUP 9
3- Dead Kennedys - Holiday in Cambodia
2- Nickelback - How You Remind Me
1- Stromae - Santé

GROUP 10
3- Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - The Mercy Seat (thanks Glüc !)
2- Peter Gabriel - My Body is a Cage (thanks Erschéveþ !)
1- Ceann - Old Dun Cow

[Glüc]

Group 9
Santé - 3
The Weight - 2
Gli Impermeabili - 1
_{HM: Rearviewmirror, I'm Still Standing, Holiday In Cambodia (Honestly, any of these could have gotten 2 points if I had been in another mood today. Very close this group.)}

Group 10 _{Weakest group this round tbh}
The Mercy Seat - 3
Where Are Your Kids Tonight - 2 _{(another nice discovery!)}
My Body is a Cage - 1 _{(I have mixed feelings about this one. It's an interesting version and obviously it worked really well in Dark and House. However, I'm just really attached to the original by Arcade Fire, esp because of the organ.)}

[Tric’hard Lenxheir]

Group 9

3. After The Dust-Heartsick Lullaby
2. Elton John-I'm Still Standing
1. Ludwig von Beethoven-9th Symphony in D Minor, Op. 125, 4th Movement

Group 10

3. Louis Armstrong-What A Wonderful World
2. Gaelic Storm-Rum Runners
1. The Band-It Makes No Difference

[Gjermund Higraff]

GROUP 9
3 - The Band, And The Staples  - The Weight (The Last Waltz)
2 - Stromae - Santé
1 - Doobie Brothers - Long Train Runnin'


GROUP 10
3 - CMAT ft. John Grant - Where Are Your Kids Tonight
2 - The Band - It Makes No Difference
1 - Dave Brubeck Quartet - Take Five