[CRL] The expansion of abuse of trust act

Started by mpf, February 07, 2024, 06:55:24 PM

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mpf

WHEREAS abuse of trust isn't only against minors, but can be against anyone under authority, such as a college student graded by a teacher, or an elderly person helped by an orderly, and
WHEREAS RZ8 is a good bill that just doesn't go far enough,

WHERE BE IT ENACTED by the King, Senäts and Cosă in Ziu assembled that section 7.3.1.1 in El Lexhatx A.7.3.1 which currently reads as:

7.3.1.1. "Sexual violence" shall include abuse of trust, where a Talossan citizen over the age of 18 initiates sexual conduct (physically or by means of words or images) with any person under the age of 18; and the citizen over 18 is in a position of supervision, authority or tutelage over said person under 18.

Be changed to:

7.3.1.1. "Sexual violence" shall include abuse of trust, where a Talossan citizen over the age of 18 initiates sexual conduct (physically or by means of words or images) with any person over which they area position of supervision, authority or tutelage, unless proper prior consent is given and that person is 18 of older.

Proposed by Marti-Pair Furxheir, Senator of Ataturk.
Martì-Paír Furxhéir
Longuest serving Secretary of State
Senator for Ataturk
Creator of the mixtape exchange program:
https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=217.msg1299

þerxh Sant-Enogat

Thanks @mpf
I had the same thought when reading the abuse of trust act, for which I am in favour but is too limited indeed. I support your proposal.
þerxh Sant-Enogat, SMC, MC
Seneschal, Minister of Immigration, Minister of STUFF,
Sénéchal de Cézembre,
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mpf

Can this be Clarked for the 5th Clark?
Martì-Paír Furxhéir
Longuest serving Secretary of State
Senator for Ataturk
Creator of the mixtape exchange program:
https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=217.msg1299

Sir Lüc

Quote from: mpf on March 17, 2024, 04:02:21 AMCan this be Clarked for the 5th Clark?

It can, but it first needs to go through committee review after at least ten days have passed since it's been posted in the Hopper (which they have).

Do you wish the bill be moved to committee?
Sir Lüc da Schir, UrB
Directeur Sportif, Gordon Hiatus Support Team

In my free time:
Túischac'h dal Cosă / Speaker of the Cosa
Wittmeister & Permanent Secretary of Backend Admin / Secretar Parmanint per l'Aðmistraziun del Backend
Deputy Scribe of Abbavilla / Distain Grefieir d'Abbavillă

Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: Sir Lüc on March 20, 2024, 08:23:44 AM
Quote from: mpf on March 17, 2024, 04:02:21 AMCan this be Clarked for the 5th Clark?

It can, but it first needs to go through committee review after at least ten days have passed since it's been posted in the Hopper (which they have).

Do you wish the bill be moved to committee?

Senator @mpf just a heads up this still needs to be reviewed by the CRL before being clarked. Still time but considering recent activity levels on Witt you may want to give the CRL members as much time as possible.

mpf

Please, can we do whatever you can to help move this forward?
Martì-Paír Furxhéir
Longuest serving Secretary of State
Senator for Ataturk
Creator of the mixtape exchange program:
https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=217.msg1299

Sir Lüc

Not sure why my question was ignored, but given the nature of this bill I'm going to interpret this as a request to move the bill to committee.
Sir Lüc da Schir, UrB
Directeur Sportif, Gordon Hiatus Support Team

In my free time:
Túischac'h dal Cosă / Speaker of the Cosa
Wittmeister & Permanent Secretary of Backend Admin / Secretar Parmanint per l'Aðmistraziun del Backend
Deputy Scribe of Abbavilla / Distain Grefieir d'Abbavillă

Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

Quote from: mpf on February 07, 2024, 06:55:24 PMWHEREAS abuse of trust isn't only against minors, but can be against anyone under authority, such as a college student graded by a teacher, or an elderly person helped by an orderly, and
WHEREAS RZ8 is a good bill that just doesn't go far enough,

WHERE BE IT ENACTED by the King, Senäts and Cosă in Ziu assembled that section 7.3.1.1 in El Lexhatx A.7.3.1 which currently reads as:

7.3.1.1. "Sexual violence" shall include abuse of trust, where a Talossan citizen over the age of 18 initiates sexual conduct (physically or by means of words or images) with any person under the age of 18; and the citizen over 18 is in a position of supervision, authority or tutelage over said person under 18.

Be changed to:

7.3.1.1. "Sexual violence" shall include abuse of trust, where a Talossan citizen over the age of 18 initiates sexual conduct (physically or by means of words or images) with any person over which they area position of supervision, authority or tutelage, unless proper prior consent is given and that person is 18 of older.

Proposed by Marti-Pair Furxheir, Senator of Ataturk.

I have bolded where there's clearly a word missing.

I will note that this language is very broad, and you should check to be sure it means what you wish it to mean.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan


Bitter struggles deform their participants in subtle, complicated ways. ― Zadie Smith
Revolution is an art that I pursue rather than a goal I expect to achieve. ― Robert Heinlein

Ian Plätschisch

I think the last part should read "18 years of age"

Also, what does "proper" mean in this context?