2024 TMT20: 10th Anniversary Extravaganza

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GROUP 4
6 - Earth, Wind and Fire - September
4 - Eurythmics - Here Comes the Rain Again
3 - Queen - Don't Stop Me Now
2 - Alan Parsons Project - Sirius/Eye In The Sky
1 - Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)

GROUP 5
6 - B-52's - Roam
4 - Dave Brubeck Quartet - Take Five
3 - Rolling Stones - You Can't Always Get What You Want
2 - The Who - Baba O'Riley
1 - Men at Work - Down Under

[Tamoran Montagnhard]

GROUP 4
6 - Eurorythmics - Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)
4 - Queen - Don't Stop the Music
3 - Toto - Africa
2 - Earth, Wind and Fire - September
1 - Eurorythmics - Here Comes the Rain Agin

GROUP 5
6 - Black Sabbath - Paranoid
4 - Police - Roxanne
3 - Fleetwood Mac - The Chain
2 - New at Work - Down Under
1 - New Order - Blue Monday

[Glüc]

Fix You - 6
Sweet Dreams - 4
Acida - 3
Sirius/Eye - 2
Africa - 1

If I counted correctly, the results of group 1 are gonna be very painful, with Paranoid Android, Child in Time and How Soon is Now all eliminated on tiebreakers.

However,
You Can't Always Get What You Want - 6
The Chain - 4
Blue Monday - 3
Down Under - 2
Baba O'Riley - 1

[Tric'hard Lenxheir]

Group 4

6. Charlie Daniels Band-Devil Went Down To Georgia
4. Queen-Don't Stop Me Now
3. Alan Parsons Project-Sirius/Eye In The Sky
2. Toto-Africa
1. Earth, Wind & Fire-September

Group 5

6. Black Sabbath-Paranoid
4. Kenny Rogers-The Gambler
3. Men At Work-Down Under
2. Fleetwood Mac-The Chain
1. The Who-Baba O'Reilly

[Sir Ian Plätschisch]

GROUP 4
6. Foo Fighters - Everlong
4. Charlie Daniels Band - The Devil Went Down to Georgia
3. Queen - Don't Stop Me Now
2. Earth, Wind and Fire - September
1. Toto - Africa

GROUP 5
6. Black Sabbath - Paranoid
4. The Who - Baba O'Riley
3. Fleetwood Mac - The Chain
2. Men at Work - Down Under
1. B-52's - Roam

[Placiej]

GROUP 4
1 Alan Parsons Project - Sirius/Eye In The Sky

6 Charlie Daniels Band - The Devil Went Down to Georgia

4 Earth, Wind and Fire - September

3 Foo Fighters - Everlong

2 Toto - Africa

GROUP 5
4 B-52's - Roam

6 Dave Brubeck Quartet - Take Five

3Fleetwood Mac - The Chain

1  Rolling Stones - You Can't Always Get What You Want

1The Who - Baba O'Riley

[Munditenens Tresplet]

GROUP 4
6 - Alan Parsons Project - Sirius/Eye In The Sky
4 - Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)
3 - Earth, Wind and Fire - September
2 - Charlie Daniels Band - The Devil Went Down to Georgia
1 - Foo Fighters - Everlong

GROUP 5
6 - Kenny Rogers - The Gambler
4 - Men at Work - Down Under
3 - Rolling Stones - You Can't Always Get What You Want
2 - Police - Roxanne
1 - Fleetwood Mac - The Chain

[Sir Lüc]

GROUP 4
6. Prozac+ - Acida
4. Toto - Africa
3. Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)
2. Alan Parsons Project - Sirius/Eye In The Sky
1. Foo Fighters - Everlong


GROUP 5
6. Police - Roxanne
4. Men at Work - Down Under
3. Black Sabbath - Paranoid
2. Fleetwood Mac - The Chain
1. New Order - Blue Monday

[Glüc]

1  Rolling Stones - You Can't Always Get What You Want

1The Who - Baba O'Riley

Im assuming one of these should have gotten 2 points instead?

[Sir Ian Plätschisch]

1  Rolling Stones - You Can't Always Get What You Want

1The Who - Baba O'Riley

Im assuming one of these should have gotten 2 points instead?

Thank you for pointing this out, I had it confirmed to me that Baba O'Riley received two points.

[Sir Ian Plätschisch]

GROUP 4
1. Don't Stop Me Now - 21
2. Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This) - 20
3. September - 19
4. The Devil Went Down to Georgia - 18
5. Everlong - 17 (two 6-point votes)
6. Africa - 17 (no 6-point votes)
7. Sirius/Eye In The Sky - 16
8. Here Comes the Rain Again - 12 (one 4-point vote)
9. Acida - 12 (no 4-point votes)
10. Fix You - 8

GROUP 5
1. Paranoid - 24
2. You Can't Always Get What You Want - 19 (one 6-point vote)
3. Down Under - 19 (no 6-point votes)
4. The Chain - 18
5. Roxanne - 17
6. Take Five - 16
7. Roam - 14
8. Baba O'Riley - 12
9. Blue Monday - 11
10. The Gambler - 10

[Sir Ian Plätschisch]

TMT20 SEMIFINAL

The Semifinal consists of one group of 15 songs (the third, fourth, and fifth place songs from each group in Round 3). The top five songs advance to the Final, the next five (in order) are #16 - #20 of the 2024 TMT20, and the last five are the final five songs to be eliminated.

The voting period will last until Tuesday, June 25th at 4:30 PM, Talossan Daylight Time.

Give your top eight songs 10, 8, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, and 1 points, respectively. You must give points to exactly eight songs.

DO NOT POST YOUR VOTE HERE, SEND IT TO ME IN A PRIVATE MESSAGE!

Charlie Daniels Band - The Devil Went Down to Georgia
Cure - A Forest
David Bowie - Starman
Earth, Wind and Fire - September
Fleetwood Mac - The Chain
Foo Fighters - Everlong
Led Zeppelin - Stairway to Heaven
Led Zeppelin - Kashmir
Ludwig von Beethoven - Mondscheinsonate, 3rd movement
Men at Work - Down Under
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - The Mercy Seat
Police - Message in a Bottle
Police - Roxanne
Queen - Killer Queen
Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil

Tiebreakers:
- Number of voters giving 10 points
- Number of voters giving 8 points
...
- Number of voters giving 2 points
- PPV in Round 3
- Rank in Round 3
- PPV in Round 2
- Rank in Round 2
- Last year's result (1 > 2 > ... > 20 > Round 4 > Round 3 > Round 2 > other)
- PPV in Round 1 (if applicable)
- Rank in Round 1 (if applicable)
- Year first nominated (special edition > earlier > later)
- Random chance

Tactical voting refers to either giving more points than you normally would to a song because it would make the difference between it going through or getting eliminated, or giving fewer points than you normally would to a song because it might kick a song you like even more out of the competition. This is hard to prevent, but my very strong request would be to not do it. Give points to the songs you believe deserve to go through, regardless of how others are voting. Doing otherwise reduces the value of votes that came before you, which is unfair to them. Remember that it's not a competition between voters, but a collective effort to make a nice list of songs we like. Thanks.

I did my best with all the links but there is always a chance some are broken or have a wrong version or bad audio quality. If a link is broken or you have a suggestion for a better link, please contact me or post the link in the thread. Officially, we are not voting on the YouTube link, but on the listed Artist + Title.

COMMENTARY ON THE PROGRESS OF THE GAME, THE RULES, WHAT SONGS YOU LIKE, ETC., IS VERY WELCOME.

[Glüc]

Radiohead, Depeche Mode, New Order are dearly missed. That said there are still good songs in here and I'm excited for the new SF/Final format!

It is kinda funny that we got rid of Gimme Shelter and BoRap and as a reward we get 3 Queen songs and 2 Stones songs in the (semi)final...

Going to listen to all songs twice again and then cast my vote.

[Glüc]

Charlie Daniels Band - The Devil Went Down to Georgia
Unlike what some people might expect, I've come to quite like this song. It's interesting, it tells a story, it takes us on a musical journey. From a Dutch perspective it also sounds very American. Most of all not because of the music or the accent or the setting, but because of the outcome. I feel in most European tales if someone bets their soul against the devil, it would not end well. Certainly not without some painful sacrifice and character development.

Reviewing the battle itself I don't really buy that this is deity-level fiddle playing, but perhaps it's similar to Tribute by Tenacious D and it's only meant as description of events, not the actual fiddle-playing that occured. Anyway, I'm leaning towards the part of the devil here. [Edit: missed opportunity to say I have sympathy for the devil here...] Can't really judge the technical profiency but as a composition I feel Johnny's part is maybe a bit lacking in urgency.

The Cure - A Forest
This is hypnotic. Moody, atmospheric. The ominous guitar intro really get you interested in what's coming. The dark bass line really feels connected to this vision of moving through a dark forest.  Obviously a terrible situation to be lost in a forest, but the songs feels more intriguing than desperate. Perhaps like the (magical?) forest the beauty of the song keeps pulling you in, deeper and deeper. I can keep listening to this.

David Bowie - Starman
Bowie's message of hope for humanity. Definitely shows how much imagination Bowie had in creating this character for himself. It's a nice song to listen to. The instrumentation feels rich, but maybe not super interesting. Emotionally it doesn't really do much for me.

Earth, Wind and Fire - September
Fun and very catchy. Nearly impossible to stay still while listening to this.

Fleetwood Mac - The Chain
I remember watching some documentary about the making of Rumours. The band members had all sorts of needlessly complicated relationship drama going on. Somehow they managed to turn all that drama into creativity and make an amazing album. The chain was the only song they all worked on together, with various members writing separate parts originally meant to be separate songs that were chained together to make one coherent song. The Chain being the song tying all the other songs on the album together and the album they were making acting as the chain that kept the band together. Very poetic I guess.

Anyway the song itself is mostly a very long buildup to one moment. Until then its nice but maybe a bit boring, but then in a short moment of silence out of nowhere the iconic bassline kicks in and it is just soooo satisfying. Suddenly the whole structure of the song becomes clear and the outro then provides the energy the song needed. The bass tying the song together, which ties the album together which kept the band together and it's called the Chain. Very good.

[Glüc]

Foo Fighters - Everlong
Fun fact: the first cd I ever owned was The Colour and the Shape, which contains this song. The build up to the chorus is very pretty. I also really like the drums during the chorus. And obviously Dave Grohl has just about the perfect rock voice. The song itself has unfortunate lost a bit of interest from me since I first listened to it.

Led Zeppelin - Stairway to Heaven
Such a massive classic that it being here is almost a bit too obvious. But its status is mostly deserved. The intro guitar melody is one of the prettiest ever written. The flute also adds a lot of charm. What follows is an epic rollercoaster of guitar goodness. I don't really know how meaningful the lyrics actually are, but the way it's presented here it definitely sounds very deep. To be a rock, and not to roll. Yeah! (I think)

Led Zeppelin - Kashmir
Another classic. I like the contrast between the slow heavy guitar riff and the rich instrumentation. The last 1,5 minutes are particularly good.

Men at Work - Down Under
Just a really fun and playful song. Obviously its the flute that really takes to another level.

Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - The Mercy Seat
Easily the darkest song of this TMT edition. The music is frantic and repetitive and serves as a perfect representation of the singers mental state. When a song is repetitive its not always a good thing, but here the constant repetition really helps to paint a terrifying picture. Slowly he seems to drift into madness while waiting for his dead. The more he repeats he is not afraid to die the less we're inclined to believe it. The lyrics may point to him being guilty, but are just ambiguous enough to keep us doubting. The final sentence appears to be a confession, but then again, the singer doesn't seem to have any grasp on reality anymore. Maybe he's literally afraid he told a lie because he doesn't know anymore. Or the thing he's lied about is the not being afraid to die.

It's definitely worth checking out some of the live performances of this song on youtube. Throughout the years Nick Cave has performed all sort of different verstions of the song with different nuances which give the song a whole different feel which shows how versatile it is. Either way the song is vivid and gripping and thought provoking. I like the drums and the crazy violin. I understand why this might not be everyone's cup of tea however.