[CRL] The Second Talossan Government Transparency (Repair) Act

Started by Breneir Tzaracomprada, October 05, 2024, 04:38:36 PM

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Breneir Tzaracomprada

Whereas, there is a need to identify the responsible official overseeing the implementation of the automatic governmental information transmittal mandated by 58RZ6, and

Whereas, Cabinet discussions are currently sealed for seven years before release is allowed by the Royal Archivist, and

Whereas, this need has led to confusion when attempting to satisfy the above-mentioned mandate.

Therefore, be it enacted by the King, Cosa and Sënats in Ziu assembled that El Lexhatx Section D.8.9 which currently reads as follows:

Quote8.9 Automated Governmental Information Transmittal

8.9.1 All internal government communications on Government-owned fora shall be transmitted to the Royal Archives as soon as feasibly possible after the conclusion of that Government's term of office.
8.9.2 These transmittals shall be released to the public by the Royal Archives seven (7) years after the conclusion of that Government's term of office.
8.9.3 No communications containing protected information covered by El Lexhatx sections D. 8.2, D. 8.3, and D. 8.4 shall be included in the transmittals.

Furthermore, The transmittal scheme shall begin with the internal government records of the Tzaracomprada Cabinet (58th Cosa).

Is amended to read as follows:

Quote8.9 Automatic Governmental Information Transmittal

8.9.1 All internal government communications on Government-owned fora shall be transmitted to the Royal Archivist by the Minister of Technology as soon as feasibly possible after the conclusion of that Government's term of office.
8.9.2 These transmittals shall be released to the public only by the Royal Archives seven (7) years after the conclusion of that Government's term of office.
8.9.3 No communications containing protected information covered by El Lexhatx sections D. 8.2, D. 8.3, and D. 8.4 shall be included in the transmittals.
8.9.4 Should the Royal Archivist position be vacant or the Royal Archivist be unavailable the Scribe of Abbavilla or Deputy Scribe of Abbavilla shall be empowered to effectuate the transmittal or release.

Uréu q'estadra så
Breneir Tzaracomprada (MC-IND/Open Society)

Breneir Tzaracomprada

#1
Two changes here:

There appears to be some confusion about the release criteria which is part of the case in Tzaracomprada v. Plastics. The bolded revision reaffirms in D.8.9.2 that the information is not to be released by anyone except the Royal Archivist as D.8.9.3 covers only information not to be included in the transmittals not what information is to be released after the 7-year period.

The revision in D.8.9.1 adds the PermSec for the BackEnd Minister of Technology as the official responsible for ensuring the transmittal to the Royal Archivist.

Miestră Schivă, UrN

The big problem here is that PermSecBackEndAdmin is not a legislatively established role. It's a job that may cease to exist at any time that the incumbent quits (or is sacked for cause) and the job may be taken back into the Ministry of Technology

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Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on October 05, 2024, 05:49:44 PMThe big problem here is that PermSecBackEndAdmin is not a legislatively established role. It's a job that may cease to exist at any time that the incumbent quits (or is sacked for cause) and the job may be taken back into the Ministry of Technology

I thought permanent secretaries were intended to be long-term apolitical offices which was why I chose it. Would the Ministry of Technology be better suited?

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Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on October 05, 2024, 06:07:54 PM
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on October 05, 2024, 05:49:44 PMThe big problem here is that PermSecBackEndAdmin is not a legislatively established role. It's a job that may cease to exist at any time that the incumbent quits (or is sacked for cause) and the job may be taken back into the Ministry of Technology

I thought permanent secretaries were intended to be long-term apolitical offices which was why I chose it. Would the Ministry of Technology be better suited?

She means that assigning a job via statute to a role not guaranteed to exist by statute is a bad idea.  Just assign it to MinTech and it can be then delegated to a permsec.
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Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on October 05, 2024, 06:07:54 PMWould the Ministry of Technology be better suited?

Thanks Baron, that sounds like a yes to my question then.

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Ian Plätschisch

Picky wording change: in 8.9.2, I prefer the word order "only by" instead of "by only".




þerxh Sant-Enogat

shouldn't it say "8.9 Automatic Governmental Information Transmittal" rather than "Automated" ?
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Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on October 26, 2024, 09:42:44 AMPicky wording change: in 8.9.2, I prefer the word order "only by" instead of "by only".

Quote from: þerxh Sant-Enogat on October 26, 2024, 01:26:23 PMshouldn't it say "8.9 Automatic Governmental Information Transmittal" rather than "Automated" ?

Changes made.

Glüc da Dhi S.H.

I'm not entirely sure from the whereas clauses why this bill is needed? What would be the issue if someone else released these 'transmittals' after seven years?

I would also perhaps rephrase it like this:
QuoteThese transmittals shall only be released to the public by the Royal Archives seven (7) years after the conclusion of that Government's term of office.
That feels clearer to me.

Other than that I have no recommendation
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Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: Glüc da Dhi S.H. on October 27, 2024, 03:14:32 PMI'm not entirely sure from the whereas clauses why this bill is needed? What would be the issue if someone else released these 'transmittals' after seven years?

I would also perhaps rephrase it like this:
QuoteThese transmittals shall only be released to the public by the Royal Archives seven (7) years after the conclusion of that Government's term of office.
That feels clearer to me.

Other than that I have no recommendation

I have added 8.9.4 based on your suggestion to combine the Cabinet Stopgap measure into this bill.