Discussion Thread - 3rd Clark

Started by Breneir Tzaracomprada, October 17, 2024, 10:57:06 AM

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Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on October 18, 2024, 06:58:21 PMLet's try to not bring up the extra-Talossan issues that literally no one in the kingdom could have either known about or prevented. We don't have guilt by association and it's an unfair thing to say.

The truth may be unfair but it is still true. The FreeDems were led by someone who went on to victimize his student. Just as the former RUMP was led by someone found guilty of heinous extra-Talossan crimes. Both parties rightly disavowed their behavior but their association with them remains.

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on October 18, 2024, 05:15:02 PMNot the first time we've heard "there was no harassment, the victim was only perceiving it" around here.

I will say again that we should be careful when making statements like this. We have Talossans who have made actual victims of people.

"Clearly we're not ostracizing this guy hard enough." -Miestra Schiva
"I refuse to work with you on this or any matter in Talossa." -Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir
"If I were running a party, it would be the Brenéir Can Kiss My Ciol party." -Dien
"Breneir Tzaracomprada is a sex pest and harasser." -Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP

Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

I see Breneir's "make enemies of literally everyone" campaign continues, unabated.  Consistency is its own kind of virtue, I suppose.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan

                   

Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on October 18, 2024, 10:02:10 PMI see Breneir's "make enemies of literally everyone" campaign continues, unabated.  Consistency is its own kind of virtue, I suppose.

You found a way to give a compliment Baron. I liked that.

"Clearly we're not ostracizing this guy hard enough." -Miestra Schiva
"I refuse to work with you on this or any matter in Talossa." -Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir
"If I were running a party, it would be the Brenéir Can Kiss My Ciol party." -Dien
"Breneir Tzaracomprada is a sex pest and harasser." -Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP

Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on October 18, 2024, 10:02:10 PMI see Breneir's "make enemies of literally everyone" campaign continues, unabated.  Consistency is its own kind of virtue, I suppose.

To be scrupulously fair to him, there is a problem here which predates him, and that's it's impossible to moderate Witt. Because - since we're all political figures - nobody wants to moderate someone and then be accused of political bias. Especially since Brenéir entire political shtick has been trashing the reputation of the outgoing SoS, and he's now trying to do that to the presumed next SoS, i.e. the two people with the authority to do so. If someone has successfully "worked the refs" to the point that no-one can even try to impose any sanctions, what to do?

One might also note that if a male Talossan were talking to a female Talossan who was their political opponent, calling them "bae" and saying "you're cute" in a sneering manner, we would see that instantly as nasty harassment that deserved sanctions. And if that were the gender relation, we would also see "she's not really being harassed, she just perceives it as such" for the gross line it is. Whatever. WITTIQUETTE RULE 8: enforce it hard.

¡LADINTSCHIÇETZ-VOI - rogetz-mhe cacsa!
"They proved me right, they proved me wrong, but they could never last this long"

Sir Ian Plätschisch

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on October 18, 2024, 10:34:38 PM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on October 18, 2024, 10:02:10 PMI see Breneir's "make enemies of literally everyone" campaign continues, unabated.  Consistency is its own kind of virtue, I suppose.

You found a way to give a compliment Baron. I liked that.

You are humiliating yourself.

Stop it.
Sir Ian Plätschisch, UrN, GST

Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on October 19, 2024, 07:12:29 AM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on October 18, 2024, 10:34:38 PM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on October 18, 2024, 10:02:10 PMI see Breneir's "make enemies of literally everyone" campaign continues, unabated.  Consistency is its own kind of virtue, I suppose.

You found a way to give a compliment Baron. I liked that.

You are humiliating yourself.

Stop it.

I'm not sure what you are talking about Ian. I did appreciate his compliment on my consistency.

"Clearly we're not ostracizing this guy hard enough." -Miestra Schiva
"I refuse to work with you on this or any matter in Talossa." -Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir
"If I were running a party, it would be the Brenéir Can Kiss My Ciol party." -Dien
"Breneir Tzaracomprada is a sex pest and harasser." -Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP

Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on October 19, 2024, 02:52:06 AM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on October 18, 2024, 10:02:10 PMI see Breneir's "make enemies of literally everyone" campaign continues, unabated.  Consistency is its own kind of virtue, I suppose.

To be scrupulously fair to him, there is a problem here which predates him, and that's it's impossible to moderate Witt. Because - since we're all political figures - nobody wants to moderate someone and then be accused of political bias. Especially since Brenéir entire political shtick has been trashing the reputation of the outgoing SoS, and he's now trying to do that to the presumed next SoS, i.e. the two people with the authority to do so. If someone has successfully "worked the refs" to the point that no-one can even try to impose any sanctions, what to do?

One might also note that if a male Talossan were talking to a female Talossan who was their political opponent, calling them "bae" and saying "you're cute" in a sneering manner, we would see that instantly as nasty harassment that deserved sanctions. And if that were the gender relation, we would also see "she's not really being harassed, she just perceives it as such" for the gross line it is. Whatever. WITTIQUETTE RULE 8: enforce it hard.

There you go again, Miestra. Sneering? Nasty?  Again you are adding your opinion on the intent of what was said and presenting it as fact. Luc is handsome and I'll tell anyone who asks. I'm not sure I see the problem in saying that but I find the attention on that fact delightful. I mean I do, after all, find your reactions here adorable too but you thinking that I'm "creepy" is not a violation of Wittiquette. In the meantime, I'll continue that campaign on a nonpartisan SoS as long as you and the FreeDems make it necessary. There are several ways it can be resolved and I pray that Txec or Luc will take one of them.

"Clearly we're not ostracizing this guy hard enough." -Miestra Schiva
"I refuse to work with you on this or any matter in Talossa." -Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir
"If I were running a party, it would be the Brenéir Can Kiss My Ciol party." -Dien
"Breneir Tzaracomprada is a sex pest and harasser." -Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP

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King Txec

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