[CULTURE] A Talossan Language Contest / Ünă Cumpetaziun da Mocts

Started by Miestră Schivă, UrN, October 19, 2024, 03:05:32 PM

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Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

Oh, yes -- I know about the date the announcement will be made, and I wasn't rushing it.  I just wanted to be sure I hadn't missed any entries.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan


Bitter struggles deform their participants in subtle, complicated ways. ― Zadie Smith
Revolution is an art that I pursue rather than a goal I expect to achieve. ― Robert Heinlein

Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

Quote from: Barclamïu da Miéletz on December 08, 2024, 01:26:00 PM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on December 08, 2024, 12:36:01 PMIt might have been kinder to send them a private message letting them know they missed a word when they were translating their poem.
Why am I like this?
It's not a big deal!  It can be hard to do your best and get rough criticism in return, so I just thought it bore a mention, as someone else who's working on their Talossan.  (I honestly don't understand most of their poem, myself, actually.)
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan


Bitter struggles deform their participants in subtle, complicated ways. ― Zadie Smith
Revolution is an art that I pursue rather than a goal I expect to achieve. ― Robert Heinlein

Barclamïu da Miéletz

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on December 08, 2024, 02:36:26 PM(I honestly don't understand most of their poem, myself, actually.)
I wouldn't understand it even if it was actual Talossan.
Barclamïu da Miéletz,
Creator of Talossan number plates and Deputy Minister of STUFF, member of COFFEE and PSC in the Zouaves


Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP

Azul and happy Llimbaziuă.

I'd live to announce the winners of the competition.

Short-form: Miestră Schivă's poem
Long-form: Maricopaglha by AD

Zilect Firă's submission was disqualified for not being in Talossan.

Corrections for each of the winning submissions will follow shortly. (Or, if you're impatient, you can check them in the unofficial Discord's #glheþ channel).

Congratulations to both winners!
Editing posts is my thing. My bad.
Feel free to PM me if you have a Glheþ translation request!

King Txec

Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on December 12, 2024, 06:32:46 PMAzul and happy Llimbaziuă.

I'd live to announce the winners of the competition.

Short-form: Miestră Schivă's poem
Long-form: Maricopaglha by AD

Zilect Firă's submission was disqualified for not being in Talossan.

Corrections for each of the winning submissions will follow shortly. (Or, if you're impatient, you can check them in the unofficial Discord's #glheþ channel).

Congratulations to both winners!

Congratulations!

- Txec R
TXEC R, by the Grace of God, King of Talossa and of all its Realms and Regions, King of Cézembre, Sovereign Lord and Protector of Pengöpäts and the New Falklands, Defender of the Faith, Leader of the Armed Forces, Viceroy of Hoxha and Vicar of Atatürk
    

Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan


Bitter struggles deform their participants in subtle, complicated ways. ― Zadie Smith
Revolution is an art that I pursue rather than a goal I expect to achieve. ― Robert Heinlein

Zilect Uómbat Firă

Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on December 12, 2024, 06:32:46 PMZilect Firă's submission was disqualified for not being in Talossan.

I guess I shouldn't have relied upon ChatGPT to translate.

here's the poem in English:

The Kingdom of Dreams

There was a man from Milwaukee,
     who, out of boredom,
in his bedroom,
     created a micronation.
Forty-five years have passed
     and King Ben's dream lives on.
The years have seen changes,
     in the style and form of this nation.
With citizens across the globe,
     one man's dream has spread.
Talossa became bigger
     than one man could dream.
And may we all always remember:
     Miehen Huone on Hänen Valtakuntansa.

Miestră Schivă, UrN

Quote from: Zilect Uómbat Firă on December 14, 2024, 03:54:28 PM
Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on December 12, 2024, 06:32:46 PMZilect Firă's submission was disqualified for not being in Talossan.

I guess I shouldn't have relied upon ChatGPT to translate.

No, you really shouldn't. The goal of the contest was to encourage people to learn and use Talossan, and only about 25% of the words in the ChatGPT output were actually Talossan!

I'm sure there are some use cases for AI writing, but not at a level where people aren't even in a position to do a basic sanity-check on the AI output.

Vote THE FREE DEMOCRATS OF TALOSSA
¡LADINTSCHIÇETZ-VOI - rogetz-mhe cacsa!
"They proved me right, they proved me wrong, but they could never last this long"

Zilect Uómbat Firă

I could have done a "sanity check" if I could have found a functional online Talossan dictionary.

Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP

Quote from: Zilect Uómbat Firă on December 15, 2024, 02:50:38 PMI could have done a "sanity check" if I could have found a functional online Talossan dictionary.

L'Översteir is just that. If you have any criticisms as to its functionality, feel free to let me or the current Secretary of State know.
Editing posts is my thing. My bad.
Feel free to PM me if you have a Glheþ translation request!

Miestră Schivă, UrN

Yeah, for example, you could have done this very simple search to indicate that ChatGPT was lying to you that the Talossan word for "man" is om (I think that's the word in some Northern Italian dialects)

But in any case the use of AI goes against the purpose of a contest that was supposed to be about people stretching their language skills

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Vote THE FREE DEMOCRATS OF TALOSSA
¡LADINTSCHIÇETZ-VOI - rogetz-mhe cacsa!
"They proved me right, they proved me wrong, but they could never last this long"

Barclamïu da Miéletz

Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on December 15, 2024, 03:50:40 PM
Quote from: Zilect Uómbat Firă on December 15, 2024, 02:50:38 PMI could have done a "sanity check" if I could have found a functional online Talossan dictionary.

L'Översteir is just that. If you have any criticisms as to its functionality, feel free to let me or the current Secretary of State know.
Has come in handy for me sometimes.
Barclamïu da Miéletz,
Creator of Talossan number plates and Deputy Minister of STUFF, member of COFFEE and PSC in the Zouaves


Tric'hard Lenxheir

I was going to try it, I have a cute little christmas poem somewhere, my biggest problem wasn't going to be figuring out the words it was the grammar that was going to be the issue for me.
Tric'hard Lenxheir (Senator and Man Without A Party)

Zilect Uómbat Firă

#28
Trying to find simple verbs like "been" or "was" returns "Your query didn't yield any results." or "no exact match" with a bunch of words that simply have those letters.

It would be super helpful if there was a searchable document that had the list of Talossan words with their English counterparts.

King Txec

I have a copy of Count Thord's excellent (though outdated) Guizua which does give more information. I wish it was digital though as I can't search the Guizua if it is not in my hand.
TXEC R, by the Grace of God, King of Talossa and of all its Realms and Regions, King of Cézembre, Sovereign Lord and Protector of Pengöpäts and the New Falklands, Defender of the Faith, Leader of the Armed Forces, Viceroy of Hoxha and Vicar of Atatürk