TMT202020 [Final voting]

[C. M. Siervicül]

GROUP 7
3 - The Beach Boys - I Get Around
2 - Ludwig von Beethoven - 9th Symphony in D minor, Op. 125, 4th movement
1 - Muse - Uprising


GROUP 8
3 - Eagles - Midnight Flyer
2 - Eric Johnson - Cliffs Of Dover
1 - Kenny Rogers - Just Dropped In

[Glüc]

Closed.

(un)lucky :(

7 votes though, so that's nice

In group 7

9th Symphony, 4th Movement (10),
I Get Around (8 ),
Country Roads Sqeepo Remix (7),
Uprising (6), and
The Alien (5)

have qualified for round 2.


In group 8

Midnight Flyer (8 ),
Just Dropped In (6),
Let it Be (6),
Narcotic (5), and based on tiebreaks 1 and 3
How Deep Is Your Love (4)

have qualified for round 2, which means Yes I'm Changing and Cliffs of Dover, which also received 4 points, have been eliminated.

[Glüc]

GIVE 3,2,1 points!
Voting will take 72 hours (3 days). Votes cast after that will not be accepted, with the exception that we will always keep going until we have at least three votes per group.
You must give points to no more/less than 3 songs per group.
You may vote on one or both groups.

GROUP 9
Bob Dylan - Queen Jane Approximately
Earth, Wind & Fire - Boogie Wonderland
Editors - Smokers outside the Hospital Doors
Marty Robbins - Big Iron
Muse - Knights of Cydonia
The Beach Boys - Surfin' USA
The Kinks - The Village Green Preservation Society
The Mighty Mighty Bosstones - The Impression That I Get
Tourist LeMC (feat. Spiritual Wally) - Horizon
Vostok Lake - Office Work


GROUP 10
B.T. Express - Express
Curtis Mayfield - Move On Up
Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)
First Aid Kit - My Silver Lining
Little Simz (feat. Cleo Sol) - Selfish
Pietro Mascagni - Intermezzo (Cavalleria Rusticana)
Rammstein - Spieluhr
Roxen - Alcohol You
Salvador Sobral - Amar Pelos Dois
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - Requiem Mass in D minor


Tiebreakers:
- nr of voters giving 3 points
- nr of voters giving 2 points
- Last year's result (round 2 > other)
- random chance

COMMENTARY ON THE PROGRESS OF THE GAME, THE RULES, WHAT SONGS YOU LIKE, ETC, IS VERY WELCOME.

[Glüc]

By far the two strongest groups this round. How to even deal with this?

[Glüc]

Well then, 'tis the 2020 comeback of stack alerts and rigged group protests.

The most stacked groups this round are yet to come though.

I've realized over the years how different my music taste is compared to other voters; almost every time I think a group is stacked, others complain that it is weak.

Well, groups are meant to be balanced as far as last year's results in addition to new nominations that tend to be favoured by those who nominated them. It would be weird if everyone considered a group to be strong or weak.

As far as musical taste goes, I won't deny that on average (with several exceptions of course) we seem to have different preferences, probably to a greater degree than say me and Lüc or Sir Cresti, (though of course there are also some of my more niche picks that strangely enough nobody seems to enjoy, oh well). Still, I enjoy listening to the stuff you come up with that I've never heard of before.

[Sir Ian Plätschisch]

GROUP 9
3 - Muse - Knights of Cydonia
2 - Marty Robbins - Big Iron
1 - The Beach Boys - Surfin' USA

GROUP 10
3 - First Aid Kit - My Silver Lining
2 - Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)
1 - B.T. Express - Express

[Éovart Andrinescù]

Group 9

3 – Bob Dylan, 'Queen Jane Approximately' (I probably should've nominated 'Like a Rolling Stone' instead but oh well)
2 – Marty Robbins, 'Big Iron' (this should be our national anthem)
1 – EW&F, 'Boogie Wonderland' (anyone else like Intouchables?)


Group 10

3 – B.T. Express, 'Express'
2 – Mozart, 'Requiem'
1 – Curtis Mayfield, 'Move On Up'

[Glüc]

9.
Knights of Cydonia - 3
Smokers Outside the Hospital Doors - 2 (would have gotten 3 points in most groups)
Office Work - 1 (Based on the sample. Just preordered the album download.)
HM: Horizon (among several others that I wanted to give points to).

10.
Spieluhr - 3
My Silver Lining - 2
Sweet Dreams - 1
HM: Move On Up
Also, Requiem might have gotten points if it was just the Lacrimosa bit. Still feel the whole piece is probably too long for this format. Also, Eiric gets bonus points for nominating Eurovision songs.

[esbornatfiglheu]

Also, Eiric gets bonus points for nominating Eurovision songs.

I love Eurovision.  I make it a point to try and listen each year to see what I'm missing out on and expand my catalog.  Kind of excited to see how the American Song Contest franchise is going to work.

GROUP 9
3 Might Mighty Bosstones- Impression That I get
2 Vostok Lake- Office Work
1 The Kinks- Village Green Preservation Society

GROUP 10
3 Salvador Sobral- Amar Pelos Dois
2 Roxen- Alcholol You
1 Rammstein- Spieluhr

[Placiej]

1 Earth, Wind & Fire - Boogie Wonderland
2 Marty Robbins - Big Iron
3 The Mighty Mighty Bosstones - The Impression That I Get




GROUP 10
1 Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)

2 Rammstein - Spieluhr

3Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - Requiem Mass in D minor

[Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC]

Vostok Lake - Office Work

Hahahahahahahaha, what the hell?!  ;D

Okay, here's an almost-complete live version of the full song bob

[xpb]

G9
3 The Beach Boys - Surfin' USA
2 Bob Dylan - Queen Jane Approximately
1 Earth, Wind & Fire - Boogie Wonderland

G10
3 Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)
2 Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - Requiem Mass in D minor
1 Curtis Mayfield - Move On Up

[Sir Lüc]

Both not quite stack alerts but I agree they are the strongest groups yet.

GROUP 9
3 - Marty Robbins - Big Iron
2 - Earth, Wind & Fire - Boogie Wonderland
1 - Muse - Knights of Cydonia
(and at least 2 honorary mentions)

GROUP 10
3 - Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)
2 - Pietro Mascagni - Intermezzo (Cavalleria Rusticana)
1 - Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - Requiem Mass in D minor

I agree the Requiem is too long for TMT20 - not sure I'd restrict it to Lacrimosa though, there's plenty of other stuff that would be in the running. (Also, I kind of wish I had nominated something by Verdi now.)

[Glüc]

Closed. 7 voters again.

In group 9

Big Iron (8 ),
Knights of Cydonia (7),
The Impression that I get (6),
Queen Jane Approximately (5), and
Boogie Wonderland (5)

have qualified for round 2.


In group 10

Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This) (10),
Mozart's Requiem (8 ),
Spieluhr (6),
My Silver Lining (5), and
Express (4)

have qualified for round 2.

Next round tomorrow, otherwise it'll just keep getting later and later...

[Glüc]

Editors getting only 2 points and being kicked out after 5 years is somewhat sad. Definitely one my of my all time favourite songs.

In other news though, all six songs coming from the special edition went through, most of them quite comfortably. (And for two categories these weren't even the winners.) I think it's nice that we managed to pick songs that hold up even outside their category.

[Glüc]

Just some stats before I post the first round

Origin (year) of nomination:
New (2020): 17 out of 41 made it to round 2.
Special 2019: 6 out of 6 made it to round 2.
2019: 7 out of 13 made it to round 2. 11 start in round 2. (total left: 18)
2018: 5 out of 11 made it to round 2. 15 start in round 2. (total left: 20)
2017: 5 out of 8 made it to round 2. 8 start in round 2. (total left: 13)
2016: 3 out of 7 made it to round 2. 5 start in round 2. (total left: 8 )
2015: 1 out of 4 made it to round 2. 4 start in round 2. (total left: 5)
2013: 2 out of 5 made it to round 2. 2 start in round 2. (total left: 3)
Song Club: 2 start in round 2.
2009: 4 out of 5 made it to round 2. 3 start in round 2. (total left: 7)

[Glüc]

Round 2 of the Talossan Music Top 20 - 2020!


Before we start, a quick note on tactical voting
Tactical voting in this case refers to either giving more points than you would normally have to a song because it would make the difference between going through or getting eliminated OR giving fewer points than you would normally have to a song because it might kick a song you like even more out of the competition. This is hard to prevent, but my very strong request would be: do not do it. Give points to the songs you believe deserve to go through, regardless of how others are voting. Doing otherwise reduces the value of votes that came before you, which is unfair to them. Remember that it's not a competition between voters, but a collective effort to make a nice list of songs we like. Thanks.

So now to the fun part:

ROUND 2: Ten groups total. Two groups simultaneously. 10 songs per group*. Best 5 go through to the next round.

GIVE 4,3,2,1 points!
Voting will take 72 hours (3 days). Votes cast after that will not be accepted, with the exception that we will always keep going until we have at least three votes per group.
You must give points to no more/less than 4 songs per group.
You may vote on one or both groups.

GROUP 1
Alan Parsons Project - Sirius/Eye In The Sky
B.T. Express - Express
Booker T. and the MG's - Green Onions
Chvrches - The Mother we Share
Frank Sinatra - Blue Moon
Muse - Uprising
Panic! At The Disco - High Hopes
Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody
Radiohead - Paranoid Android
Twenty One Pilots - Stressed Out


GROUP 2
B-52's - Roam
Bachman-Turner Overdrive - My Wheels Won't Turn
Bon Jovi - Wanted Dead Or Alive
David Bowie - Starman
First Aid Kit - My Silver Lining
Fleetwood Mac - The Chain
Frank Sinatra - My Way
Queen - Innuendo
Rammstein - Haifisch
The Beach Boys - I Get Around


Tiebreakers:
- nr of voters giving 4 points
- nr of voters giving 3 points
- nr of voters giving 2 points
- Last year's result (1 > 2 > ... > 20 > round 3 > round 2 > other)
- Average points/voter in round 1 (if applicable to all songs in the tiebreaker)
- random chance


COMMENTARY ON THE PROGRESS OF THE GAME, THE RULES, WHAT SONGS YOU LIKE, ETC, IS VERY WELCOME.

This time I will definitely include the excel file containing all the groups, Anyone is allowed to post the new groups when the deadline for the previous groups has lapsed. Just copy paste two groups from the column with the pre-made witt links. This will need to happen because I will be away for a week without my laptop

I do my best with all the links but there's always a chance some are broken or a wrong version or bad audio quality. If a link is broken or you have a suggestion for a better link, please contact me or post the link in the thread.

People who didn't get around to nominating are also very much encouraged to participate during the voting rounds.

If someone wants to make a spotify list of all round 1 songs, they'd be very welcome to.

* Groups are drawn randomly in such a way that each group contains one 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th and 10th place each from last year's third round in addition to one 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th place each from this year's first round.

* Officially we are NOT voting on the youtube/spotify link, but on the listed Artist + Title.
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[Glüc]

Excel doc with all the groups. Others will have to post these eventually because I will be away for a week during this round. (I can vote from my phone).

Just copy paste the groups from column E

[Glüc]

1: Paranoid Android - 4 - The Mother We Share - 3 - Bohemian Rhapsody - 2 - Uprising - 1 - HM: Eye in the Sky 2: Haifisch - 4 - Innuendo - 3 - The Chain - 2 - My Silver Lining - 1

[Sir Lüc]

GROUP 1
4 - Frank Sinatra - Blue Moon
3 - CHVRCHES - The Mother We Share
2 - Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody (exhaustion penalty is not tactical voting, don't @ me)
1 - Muse - Uprising
HMs - Green Onions, Eye In The Sky (Sorry, Marv...)

GROUP 2
4 - David Bowie - Starman
3 - Fleetwood Mac - The Chain
2 - Queen - Innuendo
1 - Bachman-Turner Overdrive - My Wheels Won't Turn
HM - Haifisch