[CLARKED] The Pacific Realm Act

Started by Breneir Tzaracomprada, February 10, 2025, 04:23:33 PM

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Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on June 04, 2025, 07:49:49 PMI is a title of el Lexhatx.  El Lexhatx is divided up into titles, which are then divided into sections, and then into subsections, and then into subsubsections, and so on.  Please fix the spots where you have used erroneous and confusing labels.  (Section I could be read as Section 1 of the title you were just referencing, for example.)
Looking at the text of the bill, I see this same problem.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan

                   

Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on June 28, 2025, 04:27:02 PMLooking at the text of the bill, I see this same problem.
Thanks, has it been addressed now?

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Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on July 03, 2025, 02:05:02 PMThanks, has it been addressed now?

I am hoping silence means it has been.

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Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

In many contexts, silence does not mean consent.

No, the problem still exists.  Maybe I'm not being clear, so let me just suggest this:

Therefore be it enacted by the Ziu of the Kingdom of Talossa that el Lexhatx D.2.4, which currently reads:

blahblah

shall be deleted in its entirety.

Furthermore, the whole of el Lexhatx I, which currently reads:

blahblah

shall be deleted in its entirety.

Furthermore, a new section C.1.8 shall be added, to read as follows:

blahblah
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan

                   

Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on July 20, 2025, 10:10:59 AMIn many contexts, silence does not mean consent.

No, the problem still exists.  Maybe I'm not being clear, so let me just suggest this:

Therefore be it enacted by the Ziu of the Kingdom of Talossa that el Lexhatx D.2.4, which currently reads:

blahblah

shall be deleted in its entirety.

Furthermore, the whole of el Lexhatx I, which currently reads:

blahblah

shall be deleted in its entirety.

Furthermore, a new section C.1.8 shall be added, to read as follows:

blahblah

No you were not being clear. I will separate the deletions.

Big Bopper, at your service.
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"I refuse to work with you on this or any matter in Talossa." -Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir

Breneir Tzaracomprada

Alright, the deletions have been separated as suggested.

Big Bopper, at your service.
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Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

There was also a problem with how you referring to the sections, which is why I wrote out a more specific way (specific problem is a failure to refer to the whole of I).  But okay.

I vote not to approve this bill.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan

                   

Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on July 20, 2025, 10:44:24 AMThere was also a problem with how you referring to the sections, which is why I wrote out a more specific way (specific problem is a failure to refer to the whole of I).  But okay.

I vote not to approve this bill.

Thank you Baron. I don't think there is any lack of clarity on the intent of the bill. Even the King explicitly stated understanding the entirety of I was being deleted when responding with his concerns.

Big Bopper, at your service.
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"I refuse to work with you on this or any matter in Talossa." -Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir

Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

I think it is unlikely there will be much problem, especially given this extensive discussion, but I would do the same with any other bill that seemed ambiguous or poorly-drafted.  That's the whole point of the CRL.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan

                   

Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on July 20, 2025, 10:56:01 AMI think it is unlikely there will be much problem, especially given this extensive discussion, but I would do the same with any other bill that seemed ambiguous or poorly-drafted.  That's the whole point of the CRL.

It is not ambiguous but I appreciate the help with improving the bill.

Big Bopper, at your service.
"Clearly we're not ostracizing this guy hard enough." -Miestra Schiva
"I refuse to work with you on this or any matter in Talossa." -Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir

King Txec

This bill still deletes an entire Title of El Lex, and it removes a huge portion of the cultural life of Talossa. I still intend to veto this bill.

-Txec R
TXEC R, by the Grace of God, King of Talossa and of all its Realms and Regions, King of Cézembre, Sovereign Lord and Protector of Pengöpäts and the New Falklands, Defender of the Faith, Leader of the Armed Forces, Viceroy of Hoxha and Vicar of Atatürk
    

Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: King Txec on July 20, 2025, 11:36:35 AMThis bill still deletes an entire Title of El Lex, and it removes a huge portion of the cultural life of Talossa. I still intend to veto this bill.

I initially took this out of the CRL to address your concerns, Your Majesty. I made changes and then asked for your review after making changes. You never responded unfortunately. Now, a month later, I am wondering what of Talossa's cultural life does the bill remove so that I can address that concern?

Big Bopper, at your service.
"Clearly we're not ostracizing this guy hard enough." -Miestra Schiva
"I refuse to work with you on this or any matter in Talossa." -Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir

King Txec

I likely missed the changes, sometimes Witt posts get buried. I am completely opposed to eliminating the entire military service.

-Txec R
TXEC R, by the Grace of God, King of Talossa and of all its Realms and Regions, King of Cézembre, Sovereign Lord and Protector of Pengöpäts and the New Falklands, Defender of the Faith, Leader of the Armed Forces, Viceroy of Hoxha and Vicar of Atatürk
    

Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: King Txec on July 20, 2025, 12:10:36 PMI likely missed the changes, sometimes Witt posts get buried. I am completely opposed to eliminating the entire military service.

-Txec R

I wanted to clarify this bill repurposes the Zouaves as Talossa's combined "cultural and defence forces" so it does not eliminate our military. And allows those in external armed forces the same ability to serve there in uniform. I made those changes based on your opposition. Does this not address your concern?

Big Bopper, at your service.
"Clearly we're not ostracizing this guy hard enough." -Miestra Schiva
"I refuse to work with you on this or any matter in Talossa." -Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir