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Author Topic: [RESOLVED] Errors in the Treisour re: Irregularly Stressed Verbs  (Read 1752 times)

Offline Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial

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I have just now discovered a series of mistakes in the Treisour (the Big File with all the words in it) regarding verbs that are irregularly stressed in the infinitive (think úçar).

These verbs were marked {vs} in the original 1996 Treisour tag system, a system which was carried over from the physical book, to the Glheþineir, and finally both the old and new versions of the Översteir. Now, there appear to be a couple of verbs that have this tag but apparently lack irregular stress:

ACQUAINT aquuntar
AGREE TO DISAGREE laßar boglhar
APPEND apeindar
ASSUME POWER preindar el pevar
BACK DOWN bäcar daun
BE RIFE, REIGN röinar
BEAT (DEFEAT) vintschar
BEND tirnar
BREAK THRU schpartallojmar
BRING UP, RAISE apoartar upp
BRING, CARRY, WEAR apoartar
BUMP (INTO) bimpar
CRAM (FOR EXAM) crämar
DEFEND zefençar
DROP OUT OF dropar aut da (note however that DISCARD dropar is not tagged {vs})
FILL OUT (FORM) complätsar
FLIRT flirtar
HAIRSTYLE peinar
OPEN åpnar
PUT DOWN (TRANSITIVE) laßar
REMIND remeindar
SCREW UP screuar över (again, SCREW screuar is not tagged {vs})
SING cantar
SWITCH chinxhar
TURN ON (LIGHT, ETC.) åpnar
UNSCREW unscreuar
VETO vetoïçar

It is my understanding that these verbs are oversights and thus should be corrected. It is worth noting that a lot of these verbs either have a vowel with a diacritic (ä, ö, å) or used to have one (former î words). Some of them were even explicitly stressmarked in the original Treisour ("screuar" was spelled scríuar consistently) or in the Scurznia Gramatica which came out around the same time (laßar was spelled láßar on p. 57)

Correcting these entries is a matter of seconds. Though I wanted to make sure no one has any problems with me changing them.

Does anyone object to having them stressmarked (again)?
« Last Edit: July 31, 2020, 06:59:14 AM by Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial »
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Is it just a genuine oversight in your opinion? If that’s the case, I don’t see any reason why it can’t be corrected.
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Offline Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial

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Is it just a genuine oversight in your opinion? If that’s the case, I don’t see any reason why it can’t be corrected.

I believe that it is. I'm asking because I don't want to be accused of dictatorial practices.
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I believe that it is. I'm asking because I don't want to be accused of dictatorial practices.

The mistakes must’ve been carried over the newer materials. I understand how hard it can be to make corrections especially when you’re doing it in bulk.

Let’s get a consensus on this, but I have no problem with it.
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No problem here
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OK, I went ahead and did it.
Editing posts is my thing. My bad.
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