Legal Question: Party Lists

[Baron Alexandreu Davinescu]

Before the real cosa with 20 seats , I think the maximum was 35 seats.
They always have been a limit.

Not always. The following quote from the "Big Thick History", page 145:

After all these crises, King Robert decided to take another well-deserved
vacation. His trip to Canada during June and early July (1985) inspired him; a visit
to the Canadian Parliament on Ottawa convinced him that the democratic system
had to be preserved, strengthened and extended in Talossa. On 25 June the
Cosâ (which, since he controlled 70% of it, followed the King wherever he
went), meeting in Toronto, passed an inane resolution condemning terrorism...

This was only five years since the country was founded, and so the teenaged King Robert was actually still in the dictatorship period... any democracy was just permitted at his whim, like in the DPRK.  The country is rather different now.

This feature actually still depended on an unusual early law which counted a non-vote as a vote for King Robert's party.  So he won 70% of the vote because most people didn't vote, and each of those abstentions counted as a vote for him!  I would not support the return of such a law, and I'd wager that our current sovereign wouldn't, either.

Anyway, there's a lot of pretty good reasons to award votes to more than just the party leader.  You don't want your program to rely 100% on just one person's good health and fortune... and also it's going to make it hard to keep supporters if the price of supporting your party is that they never get a chance to be in the Cosa!  If anyone ever made this mistake, I imagine they'd regret it pretty quickly!
 

[King Txec]

I would not support the return of such a law, and I'd wager that our current sovereign wouldn't, either.

You are correct. I would not.

-Txec R

[Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC]

I just can't see any way in which "you can't give more than X seats to a single person" is Organic, while "you can't give more than X seats to people who weren't named candidates on your ballot" is inOrganic.

[Baron Alexandreu Davinescu]

Sure, you've convinced me.  Good point.

[mximo]

Yeah, Mximo's right. I don't think that's ever been the case. I would expect it would still continue to not be the case. There's a huge number of practical reasons to spread seats around.

We already try the 20 seats real Cosa.
Political parties had difficulty finding one person per seat.

Mximo

[Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC]

I used to be a big fan of the Real Cosa, but I've changed my mind because the 200 seat system is more flexible and adaptable to real-world Talossan conditions.

[mximo]

If we want to return to the real Cosa, we should abolish the two-chamber system. Perhaps have a single chamber of 18 seats to avoid a tie; the president of the Chamber would not have the right to vote but would decide disputes. 8 seats elected like senators by province and 10 elected by proportional representation. With this way we could have a real Cosa and 18 people, I think we have them.

Mximo

[Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC]

If we want to return to the real Cosa, we should abolish the two-chamber system. Perhaps have a single chamber of 18 seats to avoid a tie; the president of the Chamber would not have the right to vote but would decide disputes. 8 seats elected like senators by province and 10 elected by proportional representation. With this way we could have a real Cosa and 18 people, I think we have them.

Mximo

This is amazing, this is exactly the same MMP Real Cosa suggestion that I, @Mic'haglh Autófil, O.Be and @Sir Lüc have all independently suggested, at different times of history!

Unfortunately I don't think we could get 134 seats for it in the current Cosa.

[mximo]

I personnaly support the real Cosa back in the Day.

Im ready to still support it in the Sénat today.

Maybe a joins committee on the matter should be form.

Mximo

[Mic’haglh Autófil, O.Be]

If we want to return to the real Cosa, we should abolish the two-chamber system. Perhaps have a single chamber of 18 seats to avoid a tie; the president of the Chamber would not have the right to vote but would decide disputes. 8 seats elected like senators by province and 10 elected by proportional representation. With this way we could have a real Cosa and 18 people, I think we have them.

Mximo

This is amazing, this is exactly the same MMP Real Cosa suggestion that I, @Mic'haglh Autófil, O.Be and @Sir Lüc have all independently suggested, at different times of history!

Unfortunately I don't think we could get 134 seats for it in the current Cosa.

As down as I am with a Unicameral Real Cosa, to be clear my proposal from the last term was still a 200-seat chamber :P

[mximo]

Azul,

Yes the D&D fans section of Talossa politics.
Many seats
and roll of dices :)))

Mximo