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Offline Ian Plätschisch

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Placeholder Act to Remind Me to Write an Act
« on: August 05, 2020, 08:47:30 PM »
WHEREAS

THEREFORE The process for selecting a new Monarch shall be improved in an as of yet undetermined fashion.

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Re: Placeholder Act to Remind Me to Write an Act
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2020, 09:39:03 PM »
I'm partial to an electoral college of the Ziu and the provincial governments, followed by 2/3 ratification in referendum (if the Monarch is going to continue to have significant political powers; otherwise, the referendum might be skipped)

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Re: Placeholder Act to Remind Me to Write an Act
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2020, 05:22:32 PM »
I'm partial to an electoral college of the Ziu and the provincial governments, followed by 2/3 ratification in referendum (if the Monarch is going to continue to have significant political powers; otherwise, the referendum might be skipped)

I like the electoral college of the Ziu and provincial governments as well. I think this is similar to the way the German president is elected by the Bundestag and an equal number of members of the state parliaments.
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Re: Placeholder Act to Remind Me to Write an Act
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2020, 05:36:03 PM »
I feel like the King represents the story of Talossa that goes beyond the political hype of the day. In a sense the monarch acts (or should act) as a cultural counterweight to the dominance of politics in Talossa.

Everything else is decided by the Ziu or government. Ideally the King is the only thing that isn't, so I'd much prefer some set up that doesn't involve either of those.

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Re: Placeholder Act to Remind Me to Write an Act
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2020, 05:50:34 PM »
I think that an electoral college which is composed of citizens of 6 plus years, at the very least.  Chosen perhaps via nomination from the same group.
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Re: Placeholder Act to Remind Me to Write an Act
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2020, 06:12:56 PM »
Actually, I like this better than my idea. The Republic's objection to the current King taking the throne was that he'd been a Talossan since pretty much the day before yesterday, historically speaking. Of course, King Robert II had been a citizen for two whole months before he got the job - but he didn't last long.

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Re: Placeholder Act to Remind Me to Write an Act
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2020, 07:55:12 PM »
A modest suggestion:

Select the 59 Talossans who have been citizens for longest. Reduce that number to 26 (1+9+7+9) by lot. Allow each of the 26 to nominate three other individuals. Any Talossan who receives at least two nominations goes into a pool, but if the number of those is less than 30 then the 26 selected by lot get to make another nomination until the number is at least 30. The 30 are reduced by lot to 16 (7+9) who become the members of the college, then any members of the council of regency (UC) who are not already members by nomination get added as ex officio members. The senior judge of the UC presides over the college with the title of moderator.

Then you make the college assemble in person and lock them in Merrill Hall in Abbavilla until a new king is selected. After each unsuccessful ballot they send up red smoke from the chimney (does Merrill Hall have a chimney?). A successful ballot is marked by green smoke, and the appearance of the moderator of the college on the balcony of Merrill Hall (does Merrill Hall have a balcony?) to announce habemus regem!

Seriously, though, I do like the suggestion Eiric made.
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Re: Placeholder Act to Remind Me to Write an Act
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2020, 08:29:38 PM »
I like the smoke idea, but make it simpler: AD and I just go into a room and smoke bowl after bowl of weed (listening to Pink Floyd and Yes on repeat) until we agree on a King. Problem is that if the weed is good enough it'll be Mickey Mouse.

Nah, seriously, ESB has a good idea.

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Re: Placeholder Act to Remind Me to Write an Act
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2020, 08:47:52 PM »
I like the balcony idea and think that when a new King is elected they are to be taken out onto the balcony and held up high by a new National Rafiki, just like in the opening scene of The Lion King, held exactly that same way from under the armpits and with a red and green bicoloreu rubbed onto the forehead.

Yeah, Eric's idea is good.
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Re: Placeholder Act to Remind Me to Write an Act
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2020, 09:34:44 PM »
I like the smoke idea, but make it simpler: AD and I just go into a room and smoke bowl after bowl of weed (listening to Pink Floyd and Yes on repeat) until we agree on a King. Problem is that if the weed is good enough it'll be Mickey Mouse.

O, to be a fly on that wall.

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Re: Placeholder Act to Remind Me to Write an Act
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2020, 10:33:02 PM »
Problem is that if the weed is good enough it'll be Mickey Mouse.
Now that’s what I call a Magic Kingdom.

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Re: Placeholder Act to Remind Me to Write an Act
« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2020, 02:18:44 AM »
Then you make the college assemble in person and lock them in Merrill Hall in Abbavilla until a new king is selected. After each unsuccessful ballot they send up red smoke from the chimney (does Merrill Hall have a chimney?). A successful ballot is marked by green smoke, and the appearance of the moderator of the college on the balcony of Merrill Hall (does Merrill Hall have a balcony?) to announce habemus regem!

Seriously, though, I do like the suggestion Eiric made.

Greene Hall does have a chimney, thereby making it the superior choice. I'm sure the Senate would be willing to accomodate the college for a couple of weeks or so.

Alas, neither has a balcony  :(