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[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

The Green Party is genuinely excited to support this Summit's efforts to address the toxicity and destructiveness coming from all sides which was eloquently stated by the Seneschal during the most recent campaign.

[Baron Alexandreu Davinescu]

Breneir, you engaged in an extended campaign of sexual harassment of another Talossan.  I'm not sure what you think you have to offer, except as an example of the toxic behavior we're trying to avoid.

Obviously, you're trying to gaslight us.  But the problem with your strategy is that I have no problem with repeatedly reminding everyone that we're here to discuss your extended sexual harassment campaign.  Gaslighting isn't going to work, because the end result is going to be repeated public reminders of your misbehavior.

Breneir, we are going to try to work out a way to stop you, and others like you, from sexually harassing other Talossans.  If you absolutely insist, we will make you the personal focus of the discussion.  Or you can just make another passive-aggressive reply and move on.

[Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC]

Wait, to quote Pink Floyd, who let all this riff-raff into the room?

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

Wait, to quote Pink Floyd, who let all this riff-raff into the room?

*The supposed riff-raff checks the name of the board and sees "toxicity" and "destructiveness" and then reviews the current posts in the board*

The Green Party stands ready to help whether it is specifically about me in name or not. The goals of the summit are supported and we definitely have an interest in the terms to be used in official sanctioning on Wittenberg.

[Baron Alexandreu Davinescu]

Breneir, thank you for your offer to help us with our "how to stop Breneir from sexually harassing others" problem.  We will not be needing your input at this time.

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

Breneir, thank you for your offer to help us with our "how to stop Breneir from sexually harassing others" problem.  We will not be needing your input at this time.

Still don't see where that happened, Baron. But if we are going to address toxicity and destructiveness then we all have an interest in that. What is the first order of business for the Summit?

[Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC]

"Still don't see where that happened"

To once again paraphrase Roddy Doyle's The Van, "I seen yiz!"

[Baron Alexandreu Davinescu]

On October 17th, you told another citizen he was cute, along with saying that he was interpreting an unrelated action in a wrong way.  When told that you were being rude, you reiterated that you thought he was cute.  Several people again told you that was inappropriate, and you took it further, saying you thought he was handsome and you'd tell anyone who asked.  You said you'd keep saying whatever you wanted.

Some weeks later, you followed it up by saying that you thought the same young man was "suave and debonair."  You repeated it again when asked to stop.  And you loudly proclaimed you would continue to engage in this behavior, even when told very clearly that your target was deeply uncomfortable with your attentions.

You have presented the following excuses:

• Your target didn't ask you to stop, so you thought it was fine to keep hitting on him.  You were specifically told you your target had said in private it was making him uncomfortable.
• You spoke this way to others.  After you were called out, you complimented several other people rapidly.  Even if it had been the same consistent attention, picking multiple new targets wouldn't make it better.
• There have been other people in Talossa who did worse.  Yes, and why would that be company you're happy about?
• It's fine to talk like this to others, even if it makes them uncomfortable.  No, it's not.

You have been acting like a predator, and you have said that you will not stop.  It is clear that Talossa needs a way to deal with this sort of thing.

We will not tolerate efforts to disrupt these proceedings.

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

On October 17th, you told another citizen he was cute, along with saying that he was interpreting an unrelated action in a wrong way.  When told that you were being rude, you reiterated that you thought he was cute.  Several people again told you that was inappropriate, and you took it further, saying you thought he was handsome and you'd tell anyone who asked.  You said you'd keep saying whatever you wanted.

Some weeks later, you followed it up by saying that you thought the same young man was "suave and debonair."  You repeated it again when asked to stop.  And you loudly proclaimed you would continue to engage in this behavior, even when told very clearly that your target was deeply uncomfortable with your attentions.

You have presented the following excuses:

• Your target didn't ask you to stop, so you thought it was fine to keep hitting on him.  You were specifically told you your target had said in private it was making him uncomfortable.
• You spoke this way to others.  After you were called out, you complimented several other people rapidly.  Even if it had been the same consistent attention, picking multiple new targets wouldn't make it better.
• There have been other people in Talossa who did worse.  Yes, and why would that be company you're happy about?
• It's fine to talk like this to others, even if it makes them uncomfortable.  No, it's not.

You have been acting like a predator, and you have said that you will not stop.  It is clear that Talossa needs a way to deal with this sort of thing.

We will not tolerate efforts to disrupt these proceedings.

Again, not an effort to disrupt but an effort to ensure that you actually define what it is you believe is toxic and destructive or what is "this sort of thing." I don't think calling someone cute, sauve, and debonair are acts of harassment especially not of a sexual kind, Baron. I don't think saying that something someone did is adorable is destructive. As I said at the start of this I am a person who gives compliments and the idea that these compliments would be deployed to harm is not correct. I am genuinely interested in what will come of this Summit and look forward to participating.

[Baron Alexandreu Davinescu]

I don't think calling someone cute, sauve, and debonair are acts of harassment especially not of a sexual kind, Baron. I don't think saying that something someone did is adorable is destructive. As I said at the start of this I am a person who gives compliments and the idea that these compliments would be deployed to harm is not correct.

Repeatedly complimenting the physical attractiveness of another person, even after you have been told that they are uncomfortable with your attentions, is deeply inappropriate. This is not a hard concept to grasp.

If no one has ever informed you that you aren't the one who gets to decide what makes other people uncomfortable, then you probably have bigger problems then we can solve. We are not your therapists.

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

I don't think calling someone cute, sauve, and debonair are acts of harassment especially not of a sexual kind, Baron. I don't think saying that something someone did is adorable is destructive. As I said at the start of this I am a person who gives compliments and the idea that these compliments would be deployed to harm is not correct.

Repeatedly complimenting the physical attractiveness of another person, even after you have been told that they are uncomfortable with your attentions, is deeply inappropriate. This is not a hard concept to grasp.

If no one has ever informed you that you aren't the one who gets to decide what makes other people uncomfortable, then you probably have bigger problems then we can solve. We are not your therapists.

No, but you and Miestra also don't get to decide, Baron. And if the purpose of this summit is to keep people from making one another uncomfortable then that is quite the haul.

I said in a different thread I'm more than happy to accept any sanctions you develop. Just waiting to see what you make up.