[CRL] Terpelaziuns Reform Bill

Started by Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC, June 05, 2025, 05:37:06 PM

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Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on June 16, 2025, 08:16:26 PMI support the proposed 1.2.5, but I sharply oppose the proposal to limit terps.

What do you think of the third suggested amendment - the deletion of H.1.2.3.2?

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Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

Seems fine to me.  It doesn't seem like it will have any material effect
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan

                   

Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC

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WHEREAS the Túischac'h of the Cosa has requested amendments to the law on Terpelaziuns to enable him to more effectively moderate official questions to the Government, responses, supplementary questions, and to maintain decorum therein:

BE IT ENACTED by the King, Cosa and Senäts of Talossa in Ziu assembled that:

1. El Lexhatx H.1.2.3.2, which currently reads:

Quote1.2.3.2 Once the first (round of) supplementary question(s) have been answered, the floor shall be considered open to contributions from other Members of the Cosă and Senators. Any questions posed in this stage shall not be bound by any formal time constraints.

is hereby deleted in its entirety.

2. A new section to be added to El Lexhatx, numbered H.1.2.5, as follows:

Quote1.2.5. The presiding officer of the questioner's House shall enforce decorum in both Terpelaziuns and answers to Terpelaziuns. The presiding Officer may require questioners to rephrase Terpelaziuns, or Ministers or their substitutes to rephrase answers to Terpelaziuns, to maintain decorum. In cases of continued violations, the presiding Officer may instruct the questioner or the Minister or their substitute to withdraw or apologise for a statement or comment, and remove any such statement or comment from the record in the absence of such withdrawal or apology; or disallow any further supplementary questions and responses to the Terpelaziun at issue.

Uréu q'estadra så: Miestră Schivă (MC-AVANT)

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Sir Lüc

I don't wish to comment on the merits of the bill but I have to say this H.1.2.5 should go on some sort of handbook for how to write an addendum that is consistent in form, tone and style with the preexisting legislation.
Sir Lüc da Schir, UrB
Secretary of State / Secretar d'Estat

Breneir Tzaracomprada

I support 1.2.5. My major concern is 1.2.1.4 which limits the number of terpelaziuns for everyone but the opposition leader. Is that section being revised or withdrawn?

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Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC


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Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

I'll be traveling today, but will give these some scrutiny tonight. Thank you for your patience.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan

                   

þerxh Sant-Enogat

Sorry for my late answer on this.
I think this bill lacks the usual formalism (whereas, be replaced by, ..)
Two bills instead of one would allow to vote separately on 1.2.5. addition and 1.2.1 modification.
 
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Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on June 24, 2025, 01:29:07 AMWHEREAS the Túischac'h of the Cosa has requested amendments to the law on Terpelaziuns to enable him to more effectively moderate official questions to the Government, responses, supplementary questions, and to maintain decorum therein:

BE IT ENACTED by the King, Cosa and Senäts of Talossa in Ziu assembled that:

1. El Lexhatx H.1.2.3.2, which currently reads:

Quote1.2.3.2 Once the first (round of) supplementary question(s) have been answered, the floor shall be considered open to contributions from other Members of the Cosă and Senators. Any questions posed in this stage shall not be bound by any formal time constraints.

is hereby deleted in its entirety.

2. A new section to be added to El Lexhatx, numbered H.1.2.5, as follows:

Quote1.2.5. The presiding officer of the questioner's House shall enforce decorum in both Terpelaziuns and answers to Terpelaziuns. The presiding Officer may require questioners to rephrase Terpelaziuns, or Ministers or their substitutes to rephrase answers to Terpelaziuns, to maintain decorum. In cases of continued violations, the presiding Officer may instruct the questioner or the Minister or their substitute to withdraw or apologise for a statement or comment, and remove any such statement or comment from the record in the absence of such withdrawal or apology; or disallow any further supplementary questions and responses to the Terpelaziun at issue.



This bill looks fine in form and function, with one exception: it needs the sponsorship at the bottom.  Assuming that's fixed, I vote to approve.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan

                   

þerxh Sant-Enogat

No objections any more, thanks
 
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