New Talossan History Project

Started by Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC, August 04, 2020, 07:11:38 PM

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Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC

The New Talossan History Project

A proposal humbly submitted to become part of the Royal Society

OUTLINE: A collaborative effort to revise and expand @Gödafrïeu Valcádac'h's A Very Short History of Talossa ("AVSHT"), using all the historical resources contained in the Royal Archives, the official Kingdom websites, existing books on Talossan history such as Ár Päts or A Nation Sundered, periodicals such as Qator Itrìns and the personal archives and memories of Talossans and former Talossans.

METHOD:

AIM: to create a History of Talossa which is at least as comprehensive, and less politically tendentious and slanderous, as Ár Päts for the years 1996-2020, being "living memory" for existing Talossan citizens.

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Questions? Comment?

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Éovart Andrinescù

You've got yourself a proofreader.

GV

A dream come true, really...

This project will not be a short-term thing, of course.  Indeed, I see it lasting forever with the bulk of its work being done in the next three years or so.

Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC

Can you start by putting your Very Short History into the form of a Wiki page?

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Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

It might be worthwhile to just start with a copy of the history timeline that already exists:

http://wiki.talossa.com/History
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan

                   

GV

Quote from: Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on August 06, 2020, 05:05:56 PM
It might be worthwhile to just start with a copy of the history timeline that already exists:

http://wiki.talossa.com/History

I want people's own takes.  AD, you have as great a perspective on 2005-2011 as anyone, and I fully expect from you a big, huge, book.  lolz

Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC

Okay, this is getting away from the project that I envisaged. I don't want "multiple takes". I want GV's AVSHT as the basis for a document which all members of the project can freely edit. If people want to edit the history timeline as well, I'm happy.

GV, please make your document into a wiki page.

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Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

Quote from: GV on August 06, 2020, 07:29:16 PM
Quote from: Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on August 06, 2020, 05:05:56 PM
It might be worthwhile to just start with a copy of the history timeline that already exists:

http://wiki.talossa.com/History

I want people's own takes.  AD, you have as great a perspective on 2005-2011 as anyone, and I fully expect from you a big, huge, book.  lolz
Hey man, you always just get out there and do stuff, and I have utmost respect for it.  This is a great thing you've started.  I do actually have a book in progress on this, based on my early research, but so far I've only got up to 1994 or 1995 (I can't remember).  I'd love to help with some sort of project like this.  Maybe we can try to put together an anodyne narrative, intercut with takes like yours and mine from our lived experiences.  We should probably also try to contact Ben and get his version of a few things, too, if he's willing (I bet he will be).
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan

                   

Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

I started to put some of it up online.  I'll clean it up soon and add the rest when I have a chance: http://wiki.talossa.com/History_Project
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan

                   

Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

CCX wrote a great thing about the culture, government, and history of the Republic which we can use.  Unfortunately, it ends in 2009, so it will need some additions.  I'll dig up the document (it was in my Citaxhienità: Manual of Talossan Citizenship).
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan

                   

Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC

Alex, I regard you swooping into take the term "History Project" as either incredibly rude or deliberately malicious. The New Talossan History Project has already set its agenda and GV has put his own document up as the basis for it. If you want to, feel free to apply for membership of the NTHP, and it will be discussed according to the rules set out above. Or keep your competing document and we may or may not use it, with attribution. (I should also note that the term "Talossan History Project" does not originate with me: the original was a project carried out in the early years of the Republic by Sir Tamorán dal Nava and J. K. Kelley, but I doubt they're happy with your biting their style either.)

In the meantime, can you please rename your document to anything not including the term "History Project"? Otherwise an administrator will do it for you. Thanks!

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Eðo Grischun

This is kinda reminding of me that time where AD tried to steal the thunder on the OrgLaw reform committee.

Not cool, man.
Eovart Grischun S.H.

Senator for Vuode
Former Distain and Cabinet Minister

Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC

Okey-dokey skips, GV's wiki version of AVSHT is now write-protected to members of the NTHP.

I've given everyone who's asked for it so far write permission - except for Eovart A. and ESB, whose Wiki accounts I'm not sure of.

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Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

#13
Okay... Well, I deleted it and the space is blank, so go nuts with it. I was just enthused about the project after GV asked me to contribute. I'll continue privately, I guess. Best of luck to you.
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Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC

You know you didn't have to do that; what I saw of your document was useful; and please feel free to apply for NTHP membership. There's no point in writing a "secret history", you're not Procopius.

¡LADINTSCHIÇETZ-VOI - rogetz-mhe cacsa!
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Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC

Okay guys, I have edited the absolute hell out of GV's text and added my own thoughts in several places. Feel free to make your own edits, or discuss what you see here, or on the talk page.

¡LADINTSCHIÇETZ-VOI - rogetz-mhe cacsa!
"They proved me right, they proved me wrong, but they could never last this long"

Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

#16
Given how my initial efforts to contribute were received as an attack or attempt to take control of what seems to be a specific vision of this project's outcome, I think it would be best if you guys did your own thing. No judgment... Just think this is for the best.
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Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP

Is there a copy of the Talossan Book of Names anywhere?
Editing posts is my thing. My bad.
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Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC

Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial on August 07, 2020, 07:31:13 AM
Is there a copy of the Talossan Book of Names anywhere?

For obvious reasons it's not online, I'm sure @GV has one.

I encourage everyone to read through what GV and I (with a little help from Sir Tamorán dal Nava) have nailed together so far. The problem is that several vitally important and/or hilarious events in our history have not been included yet - for example, the ESB affair. Who better to write about that than @ESB himself?

¡LADINTSCHIÇETZ-VOI - rogetz-mhe cacsa!
"They proved me right, they proved me wrong, but they could never last this long"

Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC

Perhaps the best way in which non-members of the Project can contribute is: what event in history, or aspect of Talossan history, are you particularly intrigued about, that you've heard others discussed, but you don't know the real story on?

¡LADINTSCHIÇETZ-VOI - rogetz-mhe cacsa!
"They proved me right, they proved me wrong, but they could never last this long"