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New Talossan History Project
« on: August 04, 2020, 07:11:38 PM »
The New Talossan History Project

A proposal humbly submitted to become part of the Royal Society

OUTLINE: A collaborative effort to revise and expand @Gödafrïeu Valcádac'h's A Very Short History of Talossa ("AVSHT"), using all the historical resources contained in the Royal Archives, the official Kingdom websites, existing books on Talossan history such as Ár Päts or A Nation Sundered, periodicals such as Qator Itrìns and the personal archives and memories of Talossans and former Talossans.

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AIM: to create a History of Talossa which is at least as comprehensive, and less politically tendentious and slanderous, as Ár Päts for the years 1996-2020, being "living memory" for existing Talossan citizens.

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« Last Edit: August 06, 2020, 11:36:38 PM by Miestră Schivă, UrN »

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Re: New Talossan History Project
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2020, 08:57:30 PM »
You've got yourself a proofreader.

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Count me in.
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2020, 01:05:51 PM »
A dream come true, really...

This project will not be a short-term thing, of course.  Indeed, I see it lasting forever with the bulk of its work being done in the next three years or so.

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Re: New Talossan History Project
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2020, 03:00:48 PM »
Can you start by putting your Very Short History into the form of a Wiki page?

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Re: New Talossan History Project
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2020, 05:05:56 PM »
It might be worthwhile to just start with a copy of the history timeline that already exists:

http://wiki.talossa.com/History
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Re: New Talossan History Project
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2020, 07:29:16 PM »
It might be worthwhile to just start with a copy of the history timeline that already exists:

http://wiki.talossa.com/History

I want people's own takes.  AD, you have as great a perspective on 2005-2011 as anyone, and I fully expect from you a big, huge, book.  lolz

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Re: New Talossan History Project
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2020, 07:38:03 PM »
Okay, this is getting away from the project that I envisaged. I don't want "multiple takes". I want GV's AVSHT as the basis for a document which all members of the project can freely edit. If people want to edit the history timeline as well, I'm happy.

GV, please make your document into a wiki page.

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Re: New Talossan History Project
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2020, 07:59:26 PM »
It might be worthwhile to just start with a copy of the history timeline that already exists:

http://wiki.talossa.com/History

I want people's own takes.  AD, you have as great a perspective on 2005-2011 as anyone, and I fully expect from you a big, huge, book.  lolz
Hey man, you always just get out there and do stuff, and I have utmost respect for it.  This is a great thing you've started.  I do actually have a book in progress on this, based on my early research, but so far I've only got up to 1994 or 1995 (I can't remember).  I'd love to help with some sort of project like this.  Maybe we can try to put together an anodyne narrative, intercut with takes like yours and mine from our lived experiences.  We should probably also try to contact Ben and get his version of a few things, too, if he's willing (I bet he will be).
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Re: New Talossan History Project
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2020, 08:06:01 PM »
I started to put some of it up online.  I'll clean it up soon and add the rest when I have a chance: http://wiki.talossa.com/History_Project
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Re: New Talossan History Project
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2020, 08:17:02 PM »
CCX wrote a great thing about the culture, government, and history of the Republic which we can use.  Unfortunately, it ends in 2009, so it will need some additions.  I'll dig up the document (it was in my Citaxhienità: Manual of Talossan Citizenship).
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Re: New Talossan History Project
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2020, 09:03:31 PM »
Alex, I regard you swooping into take the term "History Project" as either incredibly rude or deliberately malicious. The New Talossan History Project has already set its agenda and GV has put his own document up as the basis for it. If you want to, feel free to apply for membership of the NTHP, and it will be discussed according to the rules set out above. Or keep your competing document and we may or may not use it, with attribution. (I should also note that the term "Talossan History Project" does not originate with me: the original was a project carried out in the early years of the Republic by Sir Tamorán dal Nava and J. K. Kelley, but I doubt they're happy with your biting their style either.)

In the meantime, can you please rename your document to anything not including the term "History Project"? Otherwise an administrator will do it for you. Thanks!

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Re: New Talossan History Project
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2020, 09:28:48 PM »
This is kinda reminding of me that time where AD tried to steal the thunder on the OrgLaw reform committee.

Not cool, man.
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Re: New Talossan History Project
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2020, 10:11:15 PM »
Okey-dokey skips, GV's wiki version of AVSHT is now write-protected to members of the NTHP.

I've given everyone who's asked for it so far write permission - except for Eovart A. and ESB, whose Wiki accounts I'm not sure of.

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Re: New Talossan History Project
« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2020, 10:12:40 PM »
Okay... Well, I deleted it and the space is blank, so go nuts with it. I was just enthused about the project after GV asked me to contribute. I'll continue privately, I guess. Best of luck to you.
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Re: New Talossan History Project
« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2020, 10:36:16 PM »
You know you didn't have to do that; what I saw of your document was useful; and please feel free to apply for NTHP membership. There's no point in writing a "secret history", you're not Procopius.

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