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Started by Breneir Tzaracomprada, July 01, 2025, 04:08:49 PM

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Breneir Tzaracomprada

Something I've been wondering about since we've been discussing moderation. We are in the fifth or sixth year of using our latest version of a messaging board. Are there any plans for the major revamping of Wittenberg to update its capabilities? Perhaps with public consultation?

In past discussions, iirc, there was an idea to implement a Reddit-style moderation approach, which I personally like, but regardless of whether folks broadly agree on that approach, it is just an example of things outside the capabilities of our current platform.

If cost is the limiting factor, I am sure I'm one of several willing to engage in a voluntary taxation scheme.

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Sir Ian Plätschisch

Serious question, what would be the benefit of Reddit-style moderation
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Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: Sir Ian Plätschisch on July 01, 2025, 04:59:35 PMSerious question, what would be the benefit of Reddit-style moderation

On Reddit, when comments receive a certain level of downvotes they are hidden. I may be mistaken but moderators also have the ability to remove bad actors from the channel. Downvotes would be a community-based way for moderators to base their decisions when also citing the violations of community rules in our case Wittiquette or the soon-to-be developed new standards.

The automated hiding and data-driven way to identify serial offenders seemed like a benefit to me.


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King Txec

It's an interesting idea but I'm not sure how it would be implemented.

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Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: King Txec on July 01, 2025, 09:12:22 PMIt's an interesting idea but I'm not sure how it would be implemented.

-Txec R

I don't think it could be implemented on this Wittenberg. And I'm not hung up on that approach either just spitballing. I'm more interested in our thinking around long-term planning on Wittenberg's next stage. I was surprised we are already half a decade into this version.

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Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on July 01, 2025, 09:36:34 PMI don't think it could be implemented on this Wittenberg. And I'm not hung up on that approach either just spitballing. I'm more interested in our thinking around long-term planning on Wittenberg's next stage. I was surprised we are already half a decade into this version.

What do others think? We will at some point need to have a discussion on Wittenberg's future. And that seems like an opportunity for broad cooperation.

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Sir Ian Plätschisch

Moderators here already have the ability to take action against violations of Wittiquette, although some would argue that doesn't happen often enough.
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Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: Sir Ian Plätschisch on July 02, 2025, 05:26:32 PMModerators here already have the ability to take action against violations of Wittiquette, although some would argue that doesn't happen often enough.


Sorry I did not mean for that to be the focus of my post. Perhaps Reddit-style moderation abilities was a bad example. My thoughts are more focused on how we are planning for the future development of Wittenberg. As I stated I am surprised just how quickly time has passed for our use of this version of Wittenberg. That led me to thinking how we are considering either expansion, if possible, of this version of Wittenberg capabilities or moving beyond it.

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Sir Ian Plätschisch

If this is a worthwhile discussion, perhaps we should start with a list of things we would want to be different than they are now

I for one cannot think of any but I don't know what's possible.
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Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

Wittenberg is an amazing tool that works really well, and I am very grateful to our hardworking tech folks who have made it possible.  (Do I remember right that Etho set it up?)

I don't know what I would want it to do that it doesn't already do.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan

                   

Breneir Tzaracomprada

I second the sentiments of the Baron concerning the work of those who keep Wittenberg running but it is a limited message board. No matter the talents of those who help it run there is only so much that can be done within the sytem's constraints. So I would not call it amazing but rather antiquated to be honest and hope we will dare to dream on what we want this to become over the coming years.

Before I mention a couple of wish list features I admit my knowledge of Wittenberg is limited so please let me know if these features actually exist now:
One feature I would find useful is the ability to manage posts as drafts. To no one's surprise I am not a fast thinker and it would be nice to not have to use Google Docs for drafting substantive posts.
Another feature I would love to see is some kind of internal text or video chat ability independent of Discord or Whatsapp so people do not have to leave Wittenberg. The Discord insert is buggy and we might want to consider moving it to the top of the site if we plan to continue utilizing it.
I would also like to see some kind of automated archiving so that Government compliance with transparency statutes is less uncertain...maybe in cooperation with the Archivist and Scribery.

For the most part, I also think we need to build into Wittenberg greater use of non-written communication modes so that we SEE and HEAR each other and not just READ one another. I sincerely believe that our primarily written interaction is a limitation on our ability to connect with one another as Talossans. This is why I shared that poetry video of Sir Ian a couple days ago and I want to note that face or voice does not need to include mine for those who find that revolting but we should be having at least one live Cosa session, maybe a live meeting of the CRL every so often, a video terpelaziun and a video response from the Minister, continue with the Royal Coffees, etc. And Wittenberg should be built to be a place that can facilitate all of that whether it is native infrastructure or a non-buggy technical insert.

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