Ceadfă del Ziu: Restoration of National Honour

[Mximo Malt]

I just want to circle back on this bit:

His concern of course is to not be subjected to an overtly hostile environment, there being easily a half dozen Quator Astor citizens still at least semi-active here who despise him viscerally; his impression from his last attempt at reconciliation was that those people were still "in charge" and absolutely blacklisting him. 

"Quator Astor" is a misspelling of "Qator Itrìns", Talossan for "Four Stars", i.e. the flag of the Talossan Republic. When Ben last tried to come back, the Seneschal was in fact a former Talossan Republican, i.e. me. I was not convinced he had changed in any way that would mean I could be safe in a political community with him, and I'm still not.

So am I to take from this that Ben wants to come back now because his former political enemies were out of power and he thinks they're no longer a threat to his plans for Talossa? That's a hint on how to take seriously the question of whether there would be any "forgiveness" or "bygones being bygones".

And how, Madame Schivă, do you suppose he knows that?

[Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP]

And you know what? You are NOT fit to be Ladintsch Naziunal if you are not interested in the history of the language. Promoting its use is one thing, but the history of the language is one of the most important aspects of it. There, I said it.

I am interested in its history. That's why I have been, among other things, researching Archaic Talossan as it was first created by Ben in December 1980. What you're doing has nothing to do with its history, and how dare you make these sweeping statements when you don't know the first thing about it?

Instead of Ben, who only ever saw the language he created as a marketing ploy to get nerds to join his kingdom, I would love to see the return of the second person ever to speak Talossan, and the first person to truly love it: Sir Tomás Gariçeir.

Well, looks like we're both in a pickle now, eh?

I have no idea what you mean by "pickle". Sir Tomás has always been well respected for his services to the language.

[Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC]

You are NOT fit to be Ladintsch Naziunal

I would like the Seneschal and the Minister of Culture, as the political authorities under which the Bureu del Glheþ and the Ladintsch Naziunal are established, to officially disapprove of this attack on the LN. Marcel is qualified to this post for being the most fluent Ladintsch and effective promoter of the language. Not because of his attitude to the man who invented it.

[Mximo Malt]

If you somehow believe that my stance on Ben as a person makes me unqualified to be Ladintsch Naziunal, say it publicly.

He wanted me to, can you blame me? I think not.

[King Txec]

If you somehow believe that my stance on Ben as a person makes me unqualified to be Ladintsch Naziunal, say it publicly.

He wanted me to, can you blame me? I think not.

You are being rude when it is not called for. You've been here a short time and need to learn some humility. Now, S:reu Malt, I am king here and as the king, I'm asking you to stop insulting people and think before you say hasty things that do not help your cause.

-Txec T

[Baron Alexandreu Davinescu]

In case it can possibly need to be said still, I have every confidence in Tafial as a guide to our language. I do not think his competence is in question, no matter his attitude towards our founder.

Time and time again, when I have needed help with the language, he has been there. This ranges from a full set of assistance with translations when I served as regent to multifaceted and complex assistance with proofreading and ideas on our recent language lessons.

I just fought tooth and nail to ensure he would also be elected Tuischach, even though we are generally associated with different political parties, so my general confidence in his judgment cannot also be in doubt.

[Françal I. Lux]

I also fully support S:reu Tafial, not just as a member of government, but as a citizen of this nation. It is without question that he is currently the kingdom's premier language expert and has demonstrated time and time again his commitment to our linguistic heritage as Talossans.

These sorts of attacks are not productive *especially* when the goal is to convince the majority of the Ziu (let alone the whole citizenry of Talossa) to support a highly divisive resolution.

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

@Mximo Malt The changes you have made in response to the stated concerns are helpful. I would note you currently have co-sponsors across three parties including one from the governing party and this is also good as something of this import should be a multipartisan effort. I remain supportive of your effort here and hope that both sides of this divide will work toward reconciliation.

[Mximo Malt]

@Mximo Malt The changes you have made in response to the stated concerns are helpful. I would note you currently have co-sponsors across three parties including one from the governing party and this is also good as something of this import should be a multipartisan effort. I remain supportive of your effort here and hope that both sides of this divide will work toward reconciliation.

Yeah, I'm not really worried about that. Majestas' response to my attack on our National Latinish really made me consider what I'm really fighting for here. I now regret ever saying anything harsh against him and vow never to do this again.

Tafi (if I'm even allowed to call you that anymore), I'm willing to do anything to gain your forgiveness. All I can say is that I'm sorry. You don't have to believe it if you don't want to.

I might as well just shut the hell up now before I cause even more irreparable damage to my reputation.

MM

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

@Mximo Malt The changes you have made in response to the stated concerns are helpful. I would note you currently have co-sponsors across three parties including one from the governing party and this is also good as something of this import should be a multipartisan effort. I remain supportive of your effort here and hope that both sides of this divide will work toward reconciliation.

Yeah, I'm not really worried about that. Majestas' response to my attack on our National Latinish really made me consider what I'm really fighting for here. I now regret ever saying anything harsh against him and vow never to do this again.

Tafi (if I'm even allowed to call you that anymore), I'm willing to do anything to gain your forgiveness. All I can say is that I'm sorry. You don't have to believe it if you don't want to.

I might as well just shut the hell up now before I cause even more irreparable damage to my reputation.

MM

I think committing to refraining from personal attacks in the future would be helpful. Probably not a good approach generally and certainly won't increase support of this bill specifically.

[Mximo Malt]

@Mximo Malt The changes you have made in response to the stated concerns are helpful. I would note you currently have co-sponsors across three parties including one from the governing party and this is also good as something of this import should be a multipartisan effort. I remain supportive of your effort here and hope that both sides of this divide will work toward reconciliation.

Yeah, I'm not really worried about that. Majestas' response to my attack on our National Latinish really made me consider what I'm really fighting for here. I now regret ever saying anything harsh against him and vow never to do this again.

Tafi (if I'm even allowed to call you that anymore), I'm willing to do anything to gain your forgiveness. All I can say is that I'm sorry. You don't have to believe it if you don't want to.

I might as well just shut the hell up now before I cause even more irreparable damage to my reputation.

MM

I think committing to refraining from personal attacks in the future would be helpful. Probably not a good approach generally and certainly won't increase support of this bill specifically.

BT, this isn't only towards S:reu Tafial. This is towards everyone I have caused harm, including myself and Sua Majestas.

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

@Mximo Malt The changes you have made in response to the stated concerns are helpful. I would note you currently have co-sponsors across three parties including one from the governing party and this is also good as something of this import should be a multipartisan effort. I remain supportive of your effort here and hope that both sides of this divide will work toward reconciliation.

Yeah, I'm not really worried about that. Majestas' response to my attack on our National Latinish really made me consider what I'm really fighting for here. I now regret ever saying anything harsh against him and vow never to do this again.

Tafi (if I'm even allowed to call you that anymore), I'm willing to do anything to gain your forgiveness. All I can say is that I'm sorry. You don't have to believe it if you don't want to.

I might as well just shut the hell up now before I cause even more irreparable damage to my reputation.

MM

I think committing to refraining from personal attacks in the future would be helpful. Probably not a good approach generally and certainly won't increase support of this bill specifically.

BT, this isn't only towards S:reu Tafial. This is towards everyone I have caused harm, including myself and Sua Majestas.

I think my statement applies generally as well as to the specific case concerning Marcel, Mximo.

[Mximo Malt]

@Mximo Malt The changes you have made in response to the stated concerns are helpful. I would note you currently have co-sponsors across three parties including one from the governing party and this is also good as something of this import should be a multipartisan effort. I remain supportive of your effort here and hope that both sides of this divide will work toward reconciliation.

Yeah, I'm not really worried about that. Majestas' response to my attack on our National Latinish really made me consider what I'm really fighting for here. I now regret ever saying anything harsh against him and vow never to do this again.

Tafi (if I'm even allowed to call you that anymore), I'm willing to do anything to gain your forgiveness. All I can say is that I'm sorry. You don't have to believe it if you don't want to.

I might as well just shut the hell up now before I cause even more irreparable damage to my reputation.

MM

I think committing to refraining from personal attacks in the future would be helpful. Probably not a good approach generally and certainly won't increase support of this bill specifically.

BT, this isn't only towards S:reu Tafial. This is towards everyone I have caused harm, including myself and Sua Majestas.

I think my statement applies generally as well as to the specific case concerning Marcel, Mximo.

THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT I JUST SAID, GOOD LORD HAVE MERCY! 🤦

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

@Mximo Malt The changes you have made in response to the stated concerns are helpful. I would note you currently have co-sponsors across three parties including one from the governing party and this is also good as something of this import should be a multipartisan effort. I remain supportive of your effort here and hope that both sides of this divide will work toward reconciliation.

Yeah, I'm not really worried about that. Majestas' response to my attack on our National Latinish really made me consider what I'm really fighting for here. I now regret ever saying anything harsh against him and vow never to do this again.

Tafi (if I'm even allowed to call you that anymore), I'm willing to do anything to gain your forgiveness. All I can say is that I'm sorry. You don't have to believe it if you don't want to.

I might as well just shut the hell up now before I cause even more irreparable damage to my reputation.

MM

I think committing to refraining from personal attacks in the future would be helpful. Probably not a good approach generally and certainly won't increase support of this bill specifically.

BT, this isn't only towards S:reu Tafial. This is towards everyone I have caused harm, including myself and Sua Majestas.

I think my statement applies generally as well as to the specific case concerning Marcel, Mximo.

THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT I JUST SAID, GOOD LORD HAVE MERCY! 🤦

Lol, I ask for mercy from God every night before sleep. Ok, I understand now.