MCs for the 62nd Cosă

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Tong Mun Kit

Quote from: Sir Lüc on February 28, 2026, 02:25:10 PMThe appointment is now reflected and Mun Kit has been provided with database login credentials.
well. What should i do for this database? And guideline?

Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

You don't necessarily have to do anything with the database. It's a way of voting, but you can also vote here on the forum when a thread is posted.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric, Seneschal del Regipäts Talossan

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Tong Mun Kit

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on March 01, 2026, 06:59:48 AMYou don't necessarily have to do anything with the database. It's a way of voting, but you can also vote here on the forum when a thread is posted.
ok. Well received . Which and how to vote? It look bit complicated. 😅

Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

I will send you a personal message about exactly how it works with the database and the schedule. It definitely is complicated!
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric, Seneschal del Regipäts Talossan

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Tong Mun Kit

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on March 01, 2026, 09:04:22 AMI will send you a personal message about exactly how it works with the database and the schedule. It definitely is complicated!
sure

Sir Lüc

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on February 27, 2026, 12:10:31 PMI'm trying to find someone reliable who feels comfortable in the legislature

Sidenote but I am a little concerned about you mentioning people aren't feeling comfortable serving in the Ziu. Talossa doesn't require much from its MZs so maybe it would be worthwhile finding out what's causing so much friction, for the sake of everyone involved.
Sir Lüc da Schir, UrB
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Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

Some people are uncomfortable not at the workload, which is minimal, but at the level of responsibility.  I think that's perfectly justified.  As an MZ, you help make decisions that chart the future of our country.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric, Seneschal del Regipäts Talossan

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Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC

A representative democracy requires a base of citizens who are keen to take on that responsibility. Contrast this to a populist/presidentialist system, where you just need "one guy" with fire in his belly and a bunch of mostly passive voters.

This is why the URL supports both (a) a smaller Ziu which can be filled competitively by those who are keen, rather than stuffed full of the barely active; (b) an immigration process which promotes civic responsibility rather than raw numbers.

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Sir Lüc

Regrettably, 20 more PROG seats are now vacant and available to @Baron Alexandreu Davinescu for reassignment, due to the renunciation of Tric'hard Lenxheir.
Sir Lüc da Schir, UrB
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Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

@Moinul Moin has graciously agreed to represent the Progressive Alliance.  Please increase @Tong Mun Kit 's allotment to twenty seats, reflecting our confidence in his growing experience, and assign the remaining seven to @Moinul Moin .  Thank you!
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric, Seneschal del Regipäts Talossan

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Sir Lüc

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on April 29, 2026, 03:02:22 PM@Moinul Moin has graciously agreed to represent the Progressive Alliance.  Please increase @Tong Mun Kit 's allotment to twenty seats, reflecting our confidence in his growing experience, and assign the remaining seven to @Moinul Moin .  Thank you!

The above has now been reflected on the database. S:r Moin will be emailed database credentials for Clark voting in short order.
Sir Lüc da Schir, UrB
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Sir Lüc

I might have overlooked a substantial issue. I'm afraid that, unless I am mistaken, this would mean the Progressive Alliance allocation is:

* On-list candidates: 40 *
Lux 20
Brigă 20

* Off-list candidates: 47 *
Lupul 20
Tong 20
Moin 7

Pursuant to Lex.B.2.3.1.1.3, "The total number of seats awarded to those not on the list does not exceed 1/3 of all seats won by the party". 47 being over 87/3 = 29, I am unable to honour the Seneschal's reallocation request.

For the time being, Tong Mun Kit has been reverted to the 7 seats he already held, and Moinul Moin will hold 2 seats, for a total of 29 off-list seats. 69 seats are filled, and 18 seats will stand vacant.

I'm sorry I didn't catch this earlier - I was on a rush and misremembered the Duke of Lupul as being an on-list MC.
Sir Lüc da Schir, UrB
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Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

The Progressive list was:
  • Mximo Carbonel
  • Sir X. Pol Brigă
  • Baron Alexandreu Davinescu
  • Baroness Litz Cjantscheir
  • Eovart Xhorxh
  • Françal Ian Lux
  • Tric'hard Lenxheir
  • Þerxh Sant-Enogat

Well, Mximo Carbonel, Þerxh Sant-Enogat, and I are in the Senats.  Françal and XPB are already in the Cosa.  Of the remaining individuals, the Baroness is incommunicado and likely to remain so, and I haven't heard from Eovart.  Tric'hard is gone.  So out of these eight people, five of them are already in the Ziu.  The others are not really possibilities.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric, Seneschal del Regipäts Talossan

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Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

Article IV, Section 3 of the Organic Law of the Kingdom of Talossa says: "In the case of vacant party seats occurring between elections, the Secretary of State shall inform the King and the leader of whatever party held the vacant seat. The King shall appoint a replacement to each vacancy. If the seat belonged to a party with a functioning party leader, the King must appoint as a replacement whichever person shall be so designated by that party's leader."

Your Majesty, I am hereby designating Tong Mun Kit and Moinul Moin as replacements for these vacant party seats.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric, Seneschal del Regipäts Talossan

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King Txec

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on Today at 01:06:08 PMArticle IV, Section 3 of the Organic Law of the Kingdom of Talossa says: "In the case of vacant party seats occurring between elections, the Secretary of State shall inform the King and the leader of whatever party held the vacant seat. The King shall appoint a replacement to each vacancy. If the seat belonged to a party with a functioning party leader, the King must appoint as a replacement whichever person shall be so designated by that party's leader."

Your Majesty, I am hereby designating Tong Mun Kit and Moinul Moin as replacements for these vacant party seats.

If you would do me a favor S:reu Seneschal @Baron Alexandreu Davinescu  and include the number of seats per MC I am appointing so we can do this as legally as possible.

Thank you.

-Txec R
TXEC R, by the Grace of God, King of Talossa and of all its Realms and Regions, King of Cézembre, Sovereign Lord and Protector of Pengöpäts and the New Falklands, Defender of the Faith, Leader of the Armed Forces, Viceroy of Hoxha and Vicar of Atatürk
    

King Txec

I will state, however, there appears to be a conflict between the Organic Law and El Lex. If I appoint S:reu Kit and S:reu Moin to the Cosa, it violates El Lex B.2.3.1.1.3. while at the same time appearing to be consistent with OrgLaw IV Section 3. This puts me in a quandary and I am strongly considering seeking judicial advice on the matter.

-Txec R
TXEC R, by the Grace of God, King of Talossa and of all its Realms and Regions, King of Cézembre, Sovereign Lord and Protector of Pengöpäts and the New Falklands, Defender of the Faith, Leader of the Armed Forces, Viceroy of Hoxha and Vicar of Atatürk
    

Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

Quote from: King Txec on Today at 02:24:14 PM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on Today at 01:06:08 PMArticle IV, Section 3 of the Organic Law of the Kingdom of Talossa says: "In the case of vacant party seats occurring between elections, the Secretary of State shall inform the King and the leader of whatever party held the vacant seat. The King shall appoint a replacement to each vacancy. If the seat belonged to a party with a functioning party leader, the King must appoint as a replacement whichever person shall be so designated by that party's leader."

Your Majesty, I am hereby designating Tong Mun Kit and Moinul Moin as replacements for these vacant party seats.

If you would do me a favor S:reu Seneschal @Baron Alexandreu Davinescu  and include the number of seats per MC I am appointing so we can do this as legally as possible.

Thank you.

-Txec R

Your Majesty,

Please appoint Tong Mun Kit thirteen seats, to a total of twenty, and assign the remaining seven to Moinul Moin.

It is my opinion that the Organic Law overrules the statute that purports to contradict it. I believe completely that Your Grace has only good intentions, and I commend your care. However, I do not believe that my party's voters should be disenfranchised by regulations that are inorganic and penalize success. I don't think there is any wiggle room in the phrasing of our supreme governing law.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric, Seneschal del Regipäts Talossan

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