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Nimlet XXIV

Started by Iac Marscheir, December 23, 2025, 08:23:16 PM

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Breneir Tzaracomprada

To help with the appointment process I am posting the relevant part of our provincial constitution (Sections 6-9):

QuoteSection 6. The Governor.
The executive powers of the province shall be vested in a singular Governor, or in Talossan "Governadéir", who shall:

(a) Be the presiding officer of the House of Shepherds, and have by right of such office one mandatory and equal seat there;

(b) Resolve all parliamentary questions in the House of Shepherds, and take care that their business be undertaken in good and honorable manner;

(c) Keep and make publicly available the text of all laws of Florencia, in conjunction with the Scribery of Talossa;

(d) Take care that the laws of Talossa and Florencia be enforced faithfully; and

(e) Represent the province in any and all judicial actions to which it be a party.

He may declare the continuation of the current Nimlet through any single General Election whenever the same be occasioned by the premature dissolution of a Cosa, but only if such declaration be made within one week of the aforesaid dissolution; and no such continuation may be made for two consecutive General Elections.

If the Governor choose to vacate any seat which he may hold in the House of Shepherds, the same shall be construed as resignation from the office of Governor.

Section 7. Appointment of the Governor.
Whichever citizen of Talossa may have the Confidence of the House of Shepherds shall be appointed without delay by the Constable to serve as the Governor of Florencia; but, before he enter upon the powers and duties of the office, the Governor-designate shall sing the provincial anthem as his oath of office in witness of the Constable at least.

The appointment of the Governor shall last until he resign or die, or unless the Constable remove him for such good cause as established by law, including nonfeasance upon clear and convincing evidence.

No person shall be the Governor unless he enjoy full civil liberties and be in good standing among the province, nor unless he have served as a member of the House of Shepherds for the whole duration of a previous term, as a member of the Cosa of Talossa for four months at least, or as a Senator for one month.

The office of the Governor of Florencia shall be also incompatible with the Sovereign, that of the Constable, that of any judicial official of the province or Talossa, and that of any Senator, whether for Florencia or another Talossan province.

Section 8. With Respect to Vacancies of the Governor.
Whenever the office of the Governor be vacant or generally unattended, then the longest-serving or, in the case of a tie, the eldest member of the House of Shepherds shall assume the powers and duties thereof as Acting Governor, until the Constable shall have duly appointed and installed a successor.

The Constable shall prefer for appointment as the Governor those who be bona fide citizens of Florencia; and none else shall be so appointed, until the eighth day following the cause of vacancy.

Section 9. Governor to Maintain Confidence of Shepherds.
The first order of business in the House of Shepherds, following the commencement of a new session, shall be by resolution the affirmation of their Confidence in the sitting Governor, though these Resolutions of Confidence may be introduced at other times.
Leader, Green Party
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Joy is that leaky bucket that lets me sometimes carry half a song. But what I intend for us, our claim, that joy is the justice we must give ourselves. -J. Drew Lanham

mximo

I know. I give a wwek to people to move. Talossans don't have all the time the time to be online.

In one week we shall name an interim Governor if the Constable is still in MIA.

Mximo Carbonèl
Mximo Carbonèl
Senator from Florencia

Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: mximo on Yesterday at 03:37:45 PMI know. I give a wwek to people to move. Talossans don't have all the time the time to be online.

In one week we shall name an interim Governor if the Constable is still in MIA.

Mximo Carbonèl

That is not how the Constitution works, Mximo. I just posted it and we need to follow it not make things up as we go.

When there is a vacancy there is automatically an Acting Governor, the Member of the House of Shepherds who is longest serving or in case of a tie, the oldest.

We then need to nominate a new Governor who meets the eligibility criteria and can command a majority.

Let's please follow the law and not make up new rules.
Leader, Green Party
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Joy is that leaky bucket that lets me sometimes carry half a song. But what I intend for us, our claim, that joy is the justice we must give ourselves. -J. Drew Lanham

Breneir Tzaracomprada

For helpful reference from Section 7 of the Constitution:

QuoteNo person shall be the Governor unless he enjoy full civil liberties and be in good standing among the province, nor unless he have served as a member of the House of Shepherds for the whole duration of a previous term, as a member of the Cosa of Talossa for four months at least, or as a Senator for one month.

The office of the Governor of Florencia shall be also incompatible with the Sovereign, that of the Constable, that of any judicial official of the province or Talossa, and that of any Senator, whether for Florencia or another Talossan province...

I would urge us all to become familiar with the law of our province and to follow it.
Leader, Green Party
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Joy is that leaky bucket that lets me sometimes carry half a song. But what I intend for us, our claim, that joy is the justice we must give ourselves. -J. Drew Lanham

mximo

Who's the elder of the Nimlet...

Me...


Mximo Carbonèl
Mximo Carbonèl
Senator from Florencia

Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: mximo on Yesterday at 04:27:00 PMWho's the elder of the Nimlet...

Me...


Mximo Carbonèl

That is in case of a tie, Mximo, there is no tie. Who has been serving the longest in the Nimlet? Me. Including time served as Governor when the last Constitution was passed.

We need to follow the law.
Leader, Green Party
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Joy is that leaky bucket that lets me sometimes carry half a song. But what I intend for us, our claim, that joy is the justice we must give ourselves. -J. Drew Lanham

mximo

Im here since 1997 so if you want to count days go ahead.

The constitution can be interpreted as either the one who is the most senior in terms of days, or the most senior in terms of years, or from when their service began. I have been serving on the Nimlet since the 1990s, so I am the one who has been sitting the longest. If we calculate by days, then we should also count all the years of service before 2004 for me as well. In short, I prefer to wait for an official appointment. Since I represent the majority of the Nimlet — 7 seats in total — you don't have the support of the majority and you will failed any VOC If you continue to put pressure for nothing or you disrespect me. I know how to read a constitution. The Florencia constitution is poorly written. Governor should be choose by the Nimlet just like the Prime Minister for Talossa; if he have the support of the majority.

Let give time for the Constable to come back to us. If not we will ask the King to act.

Sincerely,



Mximo Carbonèl
Mximo Carbonèl
Senator from Florencia

Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir

I am only interjecting to say that I am keeping an eye on on the proceeding here, and will give the opportunity for the Nimlet to resolve this themselves before I make any moves after seeking advice on how to proceed.

I hope that this can be resolved without my intervention into a political argument.

Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir
Cunstaval of Florenciă

Breneir Tzaracomprada

Mximo, you will get my respect when you demonstrate you deserve it. But, just to make it plain here, you showing that your principles have a price every time an election comes around certainly will not earn it. So I can't treat you with respect because I don't respect you. Please judge my future communications with you with that in mind.

Since there is a difference of interpretation I would invite the Constable to intervene or we can submit a case to the Corts. We can't make up things as we go and must follow the law.
Leader, Green Party
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Joy is that leaky bucket that lets me sometimes carry half a song. But what I intend for us, our claim, that joy is the justice we must give ourselves. -J. Drew Lanham