[Cunstaval] Appointment of Interim Governor

[Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir]

In my capacity as Cunstaval of Florencia,
As representative of the Crown
We hereby appoint

Breneir Tzaracomprada

As interim Governor of Florencia,

Until this is either confirmed by the Nimlet or a formal vote of the Nimlet proposes an elected Governor.

As an aside, we advise the Nimlet to fix the issues with the constitution of Florencia in order to avoid the Crown having to step in, in the future as it is beneath the dignity of the crown to step into political issues such as this.

Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir
Cunstaval of Florencia

(Edited to make an appointment in line with the constitution a per following discussions)

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

In my capacity as Cunstaval of Florencia,
As representative of the Crown
We hereby appoint

Mximo Carbonèl

As interim Governor of Florencia,

Until this is either confirmed by the Nimlet or a formal vote of the Nimlet proposes an elected Governor.

As an aside, we advise the Nimlet to fix the issues with the constitution of Florencia in order to avoid the Crown having to step in, in the future as it is beneath the dignity of the crown to step into political issues such as this.

Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir
Cunstaval of Florencia

I want to thank the Cunstaval for acting and ask for advice. The Florencian Constitution forbids someone from being both Senator and Governor. Has Mximo Carbonel resigned as Senator or are we planning to ignore our province's constitution?

Part of Section 7 of the Constitution:

The office of the Governor of Florencia shall be also incompatible with the Sovereign, that of the Constable, that of any judicial official of the province or Talossa, and that of any Senator, whether for Florencia or another Talossan province...

[Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir]

In my capacity as Cunstaval of Florencia,
As representative of the Crown
We hereby appoint

Mximo Carbonèl

As interim Governor of Florencia,

Until this is either confirmed by the Nimlet or a formal vote of the Nimlet proposes an elected Governor.

As an aside, we advise the Nimlet to fix the issues with the constitution of Florencia in order to avoid the Crown having to step in, in the future as it is beneath the dignity of the crown to step into political issues such as this.

Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir
Cunstaval of Florencia

I want to thank the Cunstaval for acting and ask for advice. The Florencian Constitution forbids someone from being both Senator and Governor. Has Mximo Carbonel resigned as Senator or are we planning to ignore our province's constitution?

Part of Section 7 of the Constitution:

The office of the Governor of Florencia shall be also incompatible with the Sovereign, that of the Constable, that of any judicial official of the province or Talossa, and that of any Senator, whether for Florencia or another Talossan province...

Thank you for bringing this to our attention, should they accept the posting they shall be required to follow your constitutional requirements, should they not within 7 days we shall revisit this.

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

In my capacity as Cunstaval of Florencia,
As representative of the Crown
We hereby appoint

Mximo Carbonèl

As interim Governor of Florencia,

Until this is either confirmed by the Nimlet or a formal vote of the Nimlet proposes an elected Governor.

As an aside, we advise the Nimlet to fix the issues with the constitution of Florencia in order to avoid the Crown having to step in, in the future as it is beneath the dignity of the crown to step into political issues such as this.

Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir
Cunstaval of Florencia

I want to thank the Cunstaval for acting and ask for advice. The Florencian Constitution forbids someone from being both Senator and Governor. Has Mximo Carbonel resigned as Senator or are we planning to ignore our province's constitution?

Part of Section 7 of the Constitution:

The office of the Governor of Florencia shall be also incompatible with the Sovereign, that of the Constable, that of any judicial official of the province or Talossa, and that of any Senator, whether for Florencia or another Talossan province...

Thank you for bringing this to our attention, should they accept the posting they shall be required to follow your constitutional requirements, should they not within 7 days we shall revisit this.

Cunstaval, I appreciate this response. I will check back in 7 days.

[Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir]

@mximo
Your input on this would be appreciated

[mximo]

Azul,

I cannot seat as Governor.
The rules a clear.

This nomination is unconstitutionnal.

Please name somebody else.

Mximo Carbonèl

[Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir]

We have updated the appointment above based on the above discussions

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

We have updated the appointment above based on the above discussions

I gladly accept, thank you Madame Cunstaval.

[mximo]

Following consultations with the members of my party, and in particular with my Prime Minister, I am unable at this time to offer my support to the governor appointed by our Representative of the Crown.

In accordance with Section 7 of our Constitution, which states:
"Whichever citizen of Talossa may have the Confidence of the House of Shepherds shall be appointed without delay by the Constable."

In light of this provision, I respectfully request that an alternative appointment be considered. The Representative of the Crown is empowered to appoint a citizen from another province, and Section 7 further outlines the parameters governing such appointments.

Accordingly, I will be voting against the motion of confidence concerning the governor appointed earlier this week, whith all the seats I hold.

Mximo Carbonèl
Senator from Florencia

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

Considering the mutual lack of respect that is an understandable result.

Concerning Section 7:

No person shall be the Governor unless he enjoy full civil liberties and be in good standing among the province, nor unless he have served as a member of the House of Shepherds for the whole duration of a previous term, as a member of the Cosa of Talossa for four months at least, or as a Senator for one month.

The office of the Governor of Florencia shall be also incompatible with the Sovereign, that of the Constable, that of any judicial official of the province or Talossa, and that of any Senator, whether for Florencia or another Talossan province...

Seems we are in a bit of a pickle here.
Is there someone you have in mind who satisfies this criteria other than the incumbent?

[Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir]

Following consultations with the members of my party, and in particular with my Prime Minister, I am unable at this time to offer my support to the governor appointed by our Representative of the Crown.

In accordance with Section 7 of our Constitution, which states:
"Whichever citizen of Talossa may have the Confidence of the House of Shepherds shall be appointed without delay by the Constable."

In light of this provision, I respectfully request that an alternative appointment be considered. The Representative of the Crown is empowered to appoint a citizen from another province, and Section 7 further outlines the parameters governing such appointments.

Accordingly, I will be voting against the motion of confidence concerning the governor appointed earlier this week, whith all the seats I hold.

Mximo Carbonèl
Senator from Florencia

You can find such a citizen and purpose them through the Nimlet, or resign from senate to be appointed yourself, or allow the interim appointment stand. Those are your options here.
The crown has done its best to resolve the matter and is now being dragged again into a political mess.
If the standoff lasts, the crown will remain silent until the members of the Nimlet solves this themselves


Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir
Cunstaval of Florencia

[mximo]

Dear Cunstaval,

In accordance with our Constitution, the authority to appoint a Governor does not rest with the Chamber, but with the Cunstaval.

It is therefore your responsibility, in your capacity as the Crown's representative, to fully assume this duty. If the responsibility entrusted to you by the King proves too burdensome — which I can understand — it is incumbent upon you to step aside from your office and request that the King act directly.

The fact remains that the individual you have appointed does not enjoy the confidence of the Chamber. This is an established fact that cannot be disregarded.

Accordingly, it falls to you to identify and appoint another candidate for the office of Governor who is capable of securing the confidence of the Chamber, in keeping with both the spirit and the letter of our Constitution.

Yours faithfully,

Mximo Carbonèl

[Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir]

Dear Cunstaval,

In accordance with our Constitution, the authority to appoint a Governor does not rest with the Chamber, but with the Cunstaval.

It is therefore your responsibility, in your capacity as the Crown's representative, to fully assume this duty. If the responsibility entrusted to you by the King proves too burdensome — which I can understand — it is incumbent upon you to step aside from your office and request that the King act directly.

The fact remains that the individual you have appointed does not enjoy the confidence of the Chamber. This is an established fact that cannot be disregarded.

Accordingly, it falls to you to identify and appoint another candidate for the office of Governor who is capable of securing the confidence of the Chamber, in keeping with both the spirit and the letter of our Constitution.

Yours faithfully,

Mximo Carbonèl

Actually from my understanding of the constitution it is only the crowns responsibility to intervene if the Nimlet cannot recommend a candidate to be sworn in, on their own, therefore the responsibility lies with the Nimlet, especially as you hold the majority of the seats

[Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir]

Dear Cunstaval,

In accordance with our Constitution, the authority to appoint a Governor does not rest with the Chamber, but with the Cunstaval.

It is therefore your responsibility, in your capacity as the Crown's representative, to fully assume this duty. If the responsibility entrusted to you by the King proves too burdensome — which I can understand — it is incumbent upon you to step aside from your office and request that the King act directly.

The fact remains that the individual you have appointed does not enjoy the confidence of the Chamber. This is an established fact that cannot be disregarded.

Accordingly, it falls to you to identify and appoint another candidate for the office of Governor who is capable of securing the confidence of the Chamber, in keeping with both the spirit and the letter of our Constitution.

Yours faithfully,

Mximo Carbonèl

Actually from my understanding of the constitution it is only the crowns responsibility to intervene if the Nimlet cannot recommend a candidate to be sworn in, on their own, therefore the responsibility lies with the Nimlet, especially as you hold the majority of the seats

Section 7. Appointment of the Governor.
Whichever citizen of Talossa may have the Confidence of the House of Shepherds shall be appointed without delay by the Constable to serve as the Governor of Florencia; but, before he enter upon the powers and duties of the office, the Governor-designate shall sing the provincial anthem as his oath of office in witness of the Constable at least.

To my understanding this means that the Nimlet proposes someone who it has confidence in that then I as Cunstaval shall appoint

[mximo]

Azul,

If, according to your interpretation, this responsibility falls to me, then I will respond as you wish. I will therefore begin my search.

The search for a suitable candidate is now open.
A post has been already published on the main forum board and I reply and explains my position.

"The Crown is always right" is, after all, an old British adage.

Yours faithfully,

Mximo Carbonèl
Senator from Florencia

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

Following consultations with the members of my party, and in particular with my Prime Minister, I am unable at this time to offer my support to the governor appointed by our Representative of the Crown.

In accordance with Section 7 of our Constitution, which states:
"Whichever citizen of Talossa may have the Confidence of the House of Shepherds shall be appointed without delay by the Constable."

In light of this provision, I respectfully request that an alternative appointment be considered. The Representative of the Crown is empowered to appoint a citizen from another province, and Section 7 further outlines the parameters governing such appointments.

Accordingly, I will be voting against the motion of confidence concerning the governor appointed earlier this week, whith all the seats I hold.

Mximo Carbonèl
Senator from Florencia

You can find such a citizen and purpose them through the Nimlet, or resign from senate to be appointed yourself, or allow the interim appointment stand. Those are your options here.
The crown has done its best to resolve the matter and is now being dragged again into a political mess.
If the standoff lasts, the crown will remain silent until the members of the Nimlet solves this themselves


Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir
Cunstaval of Florencia

I thank the Cunstaval for her own assistance in the attempts to resolve this matter. Responsibility for the continued gridlock in Florencia now rests entirely on the shoulders of Mximo and the Progressive Alliance.