I'm done

[Iason Taiwos]

Someone explain Brenier's crime to me like I was ten years old. He said he thought Lüc was cute? Is there more that I happened to miss?

[Baron Alexandreu Davinescu]

Someone explain Brenier's crime to me like I was ten years old. He said he thought Lüc was cute? Is there more that I happened to miss?

https://database.talossa.com/ziu/bills/61RZ13

[Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC]

No-one is suggesting that Breneir has committed any crime under Talossan or other law. If he had, we would have taken him to Cort. I think Glüc explained it perfectly in grown-up terms. But if you want it explained in ten-year-old terms: he said something creepy that upset our friend. Our friend's still upset about that. We don't see why we have to play nice with him if he doesn't make it right with our friend.

One of the problems with dealing with vesneir behaviour (and I should explain here, "vesneir" is the Talossan word for asshole) is that it can be very upsetting and annoying and deserve sanction, but not be a crime. The threshold for criminalizing behaviour should be very high. The proper response to criminal behaviour is the Law. The proper response to non-criminal vesneir behaviour is informal social responses such as social pressure, shunning, etc.

These are necessary and healthy ways of keeping a community safe. You've got to confront bad behaviour even if it's not a crime. And can I just give @Baron Alexandreu Davinescu deserved credit, here because I think it was his idea to put up a non-binding resolution to the Ziu that we could simply point at to indicate why Breneir is a nuisance and should be excluded from polite company until he changes his ways.

I believe Breneir can change his ways. All he has to do is to apologize to Lüc in a way that Lüc accepts, and this ends.

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

I have apologized for the harm caused by my words. The issue is not the behavior which has been apologized for and has not continued. It is the perception that that apology wa insufficient and the subsequent public political campaign that has followed.

I will continue to behave as a good citizen despite this campaign.