Sense of the Ziu: Contributing to Me Too

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Breneir Tzaracomprada

Whereas, the Me Too Movement International (https://metoomvmt.org/) has since 2006 provided vital support, resources, and advocacy for survivors of sexual harassment and sexual violence, giving voice to millions who have suffered harm and working to hold perpetrators accountable across institutions and industries, and

Whereas, Talossa as a community has affirmed its commitment to the dignity and safety of all persons and to the cultivation of a culture free from harassment, abuse, and intimidation, and

Whereas, Talossa has the solemn responsibility to take the problem of sexual harassment and abuse seriously with two former leaders convicted of such heinous crimes as well as another who has been censored by the Ziu amid accusations of sexual harassment, and

Whereas, material support for organizations that serve survivors is among the most concrete and meaningful expressions of true commitment to survivor-centered values, moving beyond words and resolutions to tangible action in the world, and

Whereas, the Bureau of Humanitarian Assistance and International Development (BHAID) exists precisely to channel Talossan resources toward causes that reflect our values as a community and our obligations as citizens of the world, and

Whereas, a contribution of ($50 USD) from the BHAID to the Me Too Movement would represent a modest but meaningful gesture of solidarity with survivors and a public affirmation of Talossa's commitment to a culture of accountability and care.

Therefore be it the Sense of the Ziu that the BHAID is hereby encouraged to make a donation of ($50 USD) to the Me Too Movement in support of its work on behalf of survivors of sexual harassment and sexual violence.

The Ziu further reaffirms that this donation is made in recognition of Talossa's own history and in the spirit of our community's ongoing obligation to not merely condemn allegations of harassment in our own ranks, but to support those working to address it in the wider world.

Uréu q'estadra så:
Breneir Tzaracomprada (MC-Green)

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Joy is that leaky bucket that lets me sometimes carry half a song. But what I intend for us, our claim, that joy is the justice we must give ourselves. -J. Drew Lanham

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QuoteWhereas, the Me Too Movement International (https://metoomvmt.org/) has since 2006 provided vital support, resources, and advocacy for survivors of sexual harassment

I think we just found a new classic definition for the term chutzpah.

¡LADINTSCHIÇETZ-VOI - rogetz-mhe cacsa!
"They proved me right, they proved me wrong, but they could never last this long"

King Txec

I do not support this bill. I find it to be offensive and not worthy of a moments support. It is not only disingenuous but also mean spirited that the author of this proposal would dare to suggest on any level that Talossa "produced" two convicted sex offenders. This Kingdom had nothing at all to do with the actions of those two men, did not condone their actions, etc. We are not guilty by association nor are we responsible for the upbringing of moral failures of these two former citizens.

S:reu Tzaracomprada, I will veto this "sense" if it gets even one more vote than necessary to pass.

-Txec R
TXEC R, by the Grace of God, King of Talossa and of all its Realms and Regions, King of Cézembre, Sovereign Lord and Protector of Pengöpäts and the New Falklands, Defender of the Faith, Leader of the Armed Forces, Viceroy of Hoxha and Vicar of Atatürk
    

Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

It's pretty gross for someone who was condemned by the Ziu for sexual harassment to try to cover that up with this kind of nonsense.

Want to make things better around here? Give an honest apology. Even this bill just says you were "accused ." Your first step should be to take responsibility for your own actions.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric, Seneschal del Regipäts Talossan

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Breneir Tzaracomprada

Your Majesty, Talossa has had two former leaders guilty of sexual abuse of minors. That is a fact, whether we are comfortable with it or not. I also acknowledge the sexual harassment allegations against me which certainly is not comfortable either.

"Produced" is inaccurate though, I agree, so I will edit to clarify.

Any supporters are welcome to cosponsor. I will continue to make edits to address concerns too.

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Joy is that leaky bucket that lets me sometimes carry half a song. But what I intend for us, our claim, that joy is the justice we must give ourselves. -J. Drew Lanham

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CCX was not convicted of sexual abuse of minors btw. The victim was not a minor, the sexual contact was a crime in that he was her teacher.

¡LADINTSCHIÇETZ-VOI - rogetz-mhe cacsa!
"They proved me right, they proved me wrong, but they could never last this long"

Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on Today at 05:43:56 PMCCX was not convicted of sexual abuse of minors btw. The victim was not a minor, the sexual contact was a crime in that he was her teacher.

Oh, thanks for clarifying. The former FreeDems prime minister abused his position of trust as a teacher by engaging in sexual relations with a high school student then.

I'll edit the bill again.

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Joy is that leaky bucket that lets me sometimes carry half a song. But what I intend for us, our claim, that joy is the justice we must give ourselves. -J. Drew Lanham

King Txec

This "sense" appears on its face to be more about covering up your own sanctioned behavior than it is about the two criminals you bring up far more than is necessary.

-Txec R
TXEC R, by the Grace of God, King of Talossa and of all its Realms and Regions, King of Cézembre, Sovereign Lord and Protector of Pengöpäts and the New Falklands, Defender of the Faith, Leader of the Armed Forces, Viceroy of Hoxha and Vicar of Atatürk
    

Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: King Txec on Today at 07:18:55 PMThis "sense" appears on its face to be more about covering up your own sanctioned behavior than it is about the two criminals you bring up far more than is necessary.

-Txec R

Sorry to hear that that is how it appears to you, Your Majesty. If you want me to remove explicit references to them that is fine with me. I'm also happy to include a link to the resolution denouncing me if that is considered appropriate. As I said I'm happy to amend the Sense of the Ziu if it addresses concerns but I do think the organization and the cause are worthy of BHAID support.

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Joy is that leaky bucket that lets me sometimes carry half a song. But what I intend for us, our claim, that joy is the justice we must give ourselves. -J. Drew Lanham

King Txec

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on Today at 07:43:53 PM
Quote from: King Txec on Today at 07:18:55 PMThis "sense" appears on its face to be more about covering up your own sanctioned behavior than it is about the two criminals you bring up far more than is necessary.

-Txec R

Sorry to hear that that is how it appears to you, Your Majesty. If you want me to remove explicit references to them that is fine with me. I'm also happy to include a link to the resolution denouncing me if that is considered appropriate. As I said I'm happy to amend the Sense of the Ziu if it addresses concerns but I do think the organization and the cause are worthy of BHAID support.

Those are reasonable changes to the bill.

-Txec R
TXEC R, by the Grace of God, King of Talossa and of all its Realms and Regions, King of Cézembre, Sovereign Lord and Protector of Pengöpäts and the New Falklands, Defender of the Faith, Leader of the Armed Forces, Viceroy of Hoxha and Vicar of Atatürk
    

Breneir Tzaracomprada

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Quote from: King Txec on Today at 09:03:30 PM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on Today at 07:43:53 PM
Quote from: King Txec on Today at 07:18:55 PMThis "sense" appears on its face to be more about covering up your own sanctioned behavior than it is about the two criminals you bring up far more than is necessary.

-Txec R

Sorry to hear that that is how it appears to you, Your Majesty. If you want me to remove explicit references to them that is fine with me. I'm also happy to include a link to the resolution denouncing me if that is considered appropriate. As I said I'm happy to amend the Sense of the Ziu if it addresses concerns but I do think the organization and the cause are worthy of BHAID support.

Those are reasonable changes to the bill.

-Txec R


Done. Removed the mention of the crimes of CCX and Iusti Canun and added a link to the censure resolution concerning myself.

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Joy is that leaky bucket that lets me sometimes carry half a song. But what I intend for us, our claim, that joy is the justice we must give ourselves. -J. Drew Lanham