Announcement Regarding the Royal Talossan College of Arms

Started by Baron Alexandreu Davinescu, November 23, 2020, 09:10:52 PM

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Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

Quote from: Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM on April 01, 2022, 10:06:32 PM
I'm thinking also that major changes or staffing decisions such as emeritus, movement from Fellow to Pursuivant to Herald could be more formalized. This is a college, after all, so perhaps some system of voting for future shifts? Just an idea.

-REH
Yeah, I agree.  My first thought was a vote, but maybe a formal process of appeal by a fellow of the equivalent rank might make sense?  Worth some thought.

-NRH
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan

                   

Mic’haglh Autófil, O.Be

Quote from: Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM on April 01, 2022, 10:06:32 PM
I'm thinking also that major changes or staffing decisions such as emeritus, movement from Fellow to Pursuivant to Herald could be more formalized. This is a college, after all, so perhaps some system of voting for future shifts? Just an idea.

-REH

This sounds like a smart idea to me. Having at least some clear set of guidelines can only reduce confusion.

- TLF
"mike you don't get to flex your custom emotes on me if you didn't vote in tmt20😡" - Lüc da Schir

Béneditsch Ardpresteir

The college has always been understaffed, and amongst those handful of people, they have a tendency to leave.

It's too early to start formal voting principles for promotions etc. Let us just work together for sometime, and then think of bringing some changes.

Dean BenArd
Béneditsch Ardpresteir, Esq., O.SPM, PMPA
Squirrel King of Arms, Royal Talossan College of Arms; The Noir Eagle Herald
Member, Royal Talossan Bar; Vice Admiral, Royal Talossan Navy; Owner-Schneiderian Steels

Formerly:
Justice of the Uppermost Cort; Attorney General; Deputy Immigration Minister; Senator; Member of the Cosa; Undersecretary of State; Premier & Provincial Secretary, Maricopa; Chancellor of the O.SPM; Dean, RTCoA; Jolly Good Fellow

Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

Quote from: Béneditsch Ardpresteir on April 02, 2022, 09:51:07 AM
The college has always been understaffed, and amongst those handful of people, they have a tendency to leave.

It's too early to start formal voting principles for promotions etc. Let us just work together for sometime, and then think of bringing some changes.

Dean BenArd
Fair enough, but it's been 2 months of steadily increasing activity in the College again, and I think Eagle has a point that having more clear expectations will help. We've lost a ton of institutional memory recently, considering how few heralds are left. I agree that it will be premature to suddenly set these policies in place now, but it's a good idea to start thinking about them, right?
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan

                   

owenedwards

Just to be clear, happy to be "retired" for now. Re Odd Fellow, all I'll say is it's sad, really, but necessary, to expunge the record - there was some very good work by the Odd Fellow.
Senior Justice

C.d.I. Nouacastra-Läxhirescu, MSC

Azul,
I hope it is not too late, however I would indeed like to confirm my status with the College and retain my title! :)
[div style="text-align:center;"]Cresti da Ion Nouacastra-Läxhirescu, MSC
Attorney, National Bar of Talossa
The Well-Met Fellow, Royal Talossan College of Arms

Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan

                   

Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

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Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on March 26, 2022, 03:18:05 PM
I further propose that that earlier list of the inactive has stood for a long time, and we should act with some common sense about these inactive folks, and be a bit more consistent. We should create the unnamed positions of Fellow emeritus and Pursuivant emeritus.  Heralds should probably be permitted to keep their titles for life, even when moved to an emeritus status, as now.  Then we should make the following changes:

The Odd Fellow, Iustì Canun, should be stripped of all office and privilege, and he should be formally ejected from the College.

The former Lookout Fellow, Sir Tamorán dal Navâ, UrN, the former Long Fellow, Davíu Lundescu, the former Well-Met Fellow, Tímoþi Asmourescu, and the former Oblivious Auditing Fellow, Pôl d'Aurìbuérg, should all be appointed as Fellows emeritus.  They are welcome to return and assume a named position at any time (assuming they are Talossan citizens at the time).

The Mellow Fellow, Owen Edwards, and the Jolly Good Fellow, Alèxandreu Soleighlfred, should all be moved from their positions and appointed as Fellows emeritus.

The Penzance Pursuivant, Sir Mick Preston, UrN should be moved from his position and appointed as Pursuivant emeritus.

Making these changes, since I think there's a consensus in their favor, excepting Cresti's fellowship (since he says he wants to stay active) and the striking of Iusti, since there's disagreement on that score.

-NRH
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan

                   

Béneditsch Ardpresteir

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on May 10, 2022, 07:33:06 AM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on March 26, 2022, 03:18:05 PM
I further propose that that earlier list of the inactive has stood for a long time, and we should act with some common sense about these inactive folks, and be a bit more consistent. We should create the unnamed positions of Fellow emeritus and Pursuivant emeritus.  Heralds should probably be permitted to keep their titles for life, even when moved to an emeritus status, as now.  Then we should make the following changes:

The Odd Fellow, Iustì Canun, should be stripped of all office and privilege, and he should be formally ejected from the College.

The former Lookout Fellow, Sir Tamorán dal Navâ, UrN, the former Long Fellow, Davíu Lundescu, the former Well-Met Fellow, Tímoþi Asmourescu, and the former Oblivious Auditing Fellow, Pôl d'Aurìbuérg, should all be appointed as Fellows emeritus.  They are welcome to return and assume a named position at any time (assuming they are Talossan citizens at the time).

The Mellow Fellow, Owen Edwards, and the Jolly Good Fellow, Alèxandreu Soleighlfred, should all be moved from their positions and appointed as Fellows emeritus.

The Penzance Pursuivant, Sir Mick Preston, UrN should be moved from his position and appointed as Pursuivant emeritus.

Making these changes, since I think there's a consensus in their favor, excepting Cresti's fellowship (since he says he wants to stay active) and the striking of Iusti, since there's disagreement on that score.

-NRH

I would still insist on Emeritus status for Heralds and Pursuivants, and 'Former' status to Fellows who are no longer active. In academic institution too, former Professors acting as guest faculty are often given the 'emeritus' status, but not so for junior staff.

Plus our fellows do occupy a particular seat, so if we remove their seats from their designation, our records get complicated. On the other hand, the former tag shows that they had vacated the seats for newer recruits.

Dean BenArd
Béneditsch Ardpresteir, Esq., O.SPM, PMPA
Squirrel King of Arms, Royal Talossan College of Arms; The Noir Eagle Herald
Member, Royal Talossan Bar; Vice Admiral, Royal Talossan Navy; Owner-Schneiderian Steels

Formerly:
Justice of the Uppermost Cort; Attorney General; Deputy Immigration Minister; Senator; Member of the Cosa; Undersecretary of State; Premier & Provincial Secretary, Maricopa; Chancellor of the O.SPM; Dean, RTCoA; Jolly Good Fellow

Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

Quote from: Béneditsch Ardpresteir on May 12, 2022, 10:10:15 AM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on May 10, 2022, 07:33:06 AM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on March 26, 2022, 03:18:05 PM
I further propose that that earlier list of the inactive has stood for a long time, and we should act with some common sense about these inactive folks, and be a bit more consistent. We should create the unnamed positions of Fellow emeritus and Pursuivant emeritus.  Heralds should probably be permitted to keep their titles for life, even when moved to an emeritus status, as now.  Then we should make the following changes:

The Odd Fellow, Iustì Canun, should be stripped of all office and privilege, and he should be formally ejected from the College.

The former Lookout Fellow, Sir Tamorán dal Navâ, UrN, the former Long Fellow, Davíu Lundescu, the former Well-Met Fellow, Tímoþi Asmourescu, and the former Oblivious Auditing Fellow, Pôl d'Aurìbuérg, should all be appointed as Fellows emeritus.  They are welcome to return and assume a named position at any time (assuming they are Talossan citizens at the time).

The Mellow Fellow, Owen Edwards, and the Jolly Good Fellow, Alèxandreu Soleighlfred, should all be moved from their positions and appointed as Fellows emeritus.

The Penzance Pursuivant, Sir Mick Preston, UrN should be moved from his position and appointed as Pursuivant emeritus.

Making these changes, since I think there's a consensus in their favor, excepting Cresti's fellowship (since he says he wants to stay active) and the striking of Iusti, since there's disagreement on that score.

-NRH

I would still insist on Emeritus status for Heralds and Pursuivants, and 'Former' status to Fellows who are no longer active. In academic institution too, former Professors acting as guest faculty are often given the 'emeritus' status, but not so for junior staff.

Plus our fellows do occupy a particular seat, so if we remove their seats from their designation, our records get complicated. On the other hand, the former tag shows that they had vacated the seats for newer recruits.

Dean BenArd
I left the Heralds their titles.  I think Cresti S is the only emeritus Pursuivant, so at your direction, I'll restore his title.

-NRH
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan