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Title: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on September 01, 2021, 09:26:36 PM
The 2021 TMT20 has concluded.
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Hello and welcome to the 2021 Talossan Music Top 20. I am subbing in for Glüc as the host this year, but I will be copying almost everything from him, so it should be close to what you are used to if you have participated before (and if you haven't, you won't know the difference anyway). I am deeply grateful to Glüc for all the past work he has done on this, which will hopefully make my job much easier.

If you have never heard of the TMT20, it is only the greatest song competition to ever exist.

For reference:
http://wiki.talossa.com/Talossan_Music_Top_20
https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=381.0

2021 TMT20 Nomination Rules

Nominations are now open. Everyone (including guests and prospective citizens) is invited to nominate songs to form the 2021 edition of the Talossan Music Top 20.

I anticipate the rounds format and tiebreakers will be the same as last year. However, if I do decide to make a change, I will of course announce it before the beginning of the relevant round.

The competition will consist of 150 songs. 102 songs have qualified automatically based on their performance last year. Therefore, there will be a total of 48 new nominations, of which 0 are currently unfilled.

For now we will start with 3 nominations per person. If we don't have enough songs by 9:00 TST on September 7th, everyone will be free to nominate one new songs every 12 hours.

We are voting on the written combination artist (or composer) + title, rather than the specific version that is being linked to, in case people do not like that version.

If you can, please include a link to youtube or some other video or audio file of the song. Otherwise I will find a link myself, but I might not always find the best version. In addition, I might try to make a spotify list of the songs. If there are multiple versions of the song on Spotify and you prefer a certain version, let me know.

All genres of music are welcome. Glüc had an entire paragraph here warning people that nominating an entire symphony is not a good idea, but go for it if you want, I guess.

Do not worry about nominating songs because they are not popular enough (or because they ar too mainstream). You do not get a prize if your song wins. If you get someone to listen to a song or genre he did not know or like before, that is nice too. We all seem to love our 70s rock classics, and if your all time favorite song happens to fall in that category, go for it! But if it does not, adding some diversity to the list is just as good. Just nominate whatever song you think deserves to be in the list for whatever reason.

Tagging some people who may or may not be interested (others are equally welcome to nominate songs of course):
@Lüc @Txosuè Éiric Rôibeardescù @Eiric S. Bornatfiglheu @Munditenens Tresplet @Iason Taiwos @mpf @Miestră Schivă, UrN @Eðo Grischun @Açafat del Val @Sevastáin Pinátsch @xpb @Audrada Roibeardet @Ián Tamorán S.H. @King John @cmsiervicul
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on September 01, 2021, 09:46:51 PM
Nominees

Aerosmith - Same old Song and Dance (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g_r_j_i_6U%20class="link")
Aerosmith - Dream On (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54BCLYNkFKg%20class="link")
Alan Parsons Project - Sirius/Eye In The Sky (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEwaS-lLk0Y%20class="link")
Antonio Vivaldi - Gloria In Excelsis Deo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2unX4boA6TI%20class="link")
Archive - Controlling Crowds (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w2AEoxMSCg%20class="link")
Avalanches - Frontier Psychiatrist (https://youtu.be/qLrnkK2YEcE%20class="link")
B.T. Express - Express (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWqYQcKkUKs%20class="link")
B-52's - Roam (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNwC0sp-uA4%20class="link")
Bachman-Turner Overdrive - My Wheels Won't Turn (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRlKXrIaPXc%20class="link")
Beach Boys - I Get Around (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wREBD2og5iY%20class="link")
Beatles - Let it Be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDYfEBY9NM4%20class="link")
Beatles - Eleanor Rigby (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuS5NuXRb5Y%20class="link")
Bee Gees - How Deep is Your Love (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpqqjU7u5Yc%20class="link")
Billie Eilish - Bury a Friend (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUHC9tYz8ik%20class="link")
Black Eyed Peas - Let's Get It Started (https://youtu.be/IKqV7DB8Iwg%20class="link")
Blair Crimmins and the Hookers - Old Man Cabbage (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwzPwwaZ2EI%20class="link")
Blue Öyster Cult - Burnin' For You (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oYsdAbypTk%20class="link")
Blur - The Universal (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2jmBCfbgZc%20class="link")
Blur - Song 2 (https://youtu.be/SSbBvKaM6sk%20class="link")
Bob Dylan - Queen Jane Approximately (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-ZmD3sCFcE%20class="link")
Bob Segar - Old Time Rock and Roll (https://youtu.be/W1LsRShUPtY%20class="link")
Bon Jovi - You Give Love a Bad Name (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrZHPOeOxQQ%20class="link")
Bon Jovi - Wanted Dead Or Alive (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRvCvsRp5ho%20class="link")
Booker T. and the MG's - Green Onions (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oox9bJaGJ8%20class="link")
Buena Vista Social Club - Chan Chan (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5cELP06Mik%20class="link")
Carbon Leaf - The Donnybrook Affair (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywRCpwzQd7o%20class="link")
Charlie Daniels Band - The Devil Went Down to Georgia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6RUg-NkjY4%20class="link")
Chvrches - The Mother we Share (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mTRvJ9fugM%20class="link")
Clamavi De Profundus - The Song of Durin (https://youtu.be/uxfoa23skHg%20class="link")
Coldplay - Fix You (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4V3Mo61fJM%20class="link")
Creed - What If (https://youtu.be/BkHjFzw1TUg%20class="link")
Crosby, Stills and Nash - Southern Cross (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cBsnopTVmo%20class="link")
Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young - Ohio (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68g76j9VBvM%20class="link")
Dave Brubeck Quartet - Take Five (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHdU5sHigYQ%20class="link")
David Bowie - Starman (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRcPA7Fzebw%20class="link")
Dead Kennedys - Holiday in Cambodia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KTsXHXMkJA%20class="link")
Derek and the Dominos - Layla (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n92zksrhbc%20class="link")
Devo - Freedom of Choice (https://youtu.be/1B2tyKfrChQ%20class="link")
Dire Straits - Sultans Of Swing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIufLA7Bx2Q%20class="link")
Dire Straits - Telegraph Road (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TTAXENxbM0%20class="link")
Don McLean - American Pie (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yHTpGog0IY%20class="link")
Donny Benét - Santorini (https://youtu.be/WcZWSfKJ--8%20class="link")
DragonForce - Through the Fire and Flames (https://youtu.be/O5CthPJU2N0%20class="link")
Dropkick Murphys - I'm Shipping Up To Boston (https://youtu.be/pMgHX2dhVlE%20class="link")
Dua Lipa - Levitating (https://youtu.be/N000qglmmY0%20class="link")
Eagles - Midnight Flyer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OphQ2pvTTb0%20class="link")
Eagles - Lyin' Eyes (https://youtu.be/LMcCHSLMTes%20class="link")
Earth, Wind and Fire - September (https://youtu.be/Gs069dndIYk%20class="link")
Earth, Wind and Fire - Boogie Wonderland (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=god7hAPv8f0%20class="link")
Ed Welch and Robert Hartshorne, Trap Geek - Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends Main Theme Trap Remix (https://youtu.be/Utmo5p7nadA%20class="link")
Ennio Morricone - For A Few Dollars More (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtblCZQXRsA%20class="link")
Ennio Morricone - Man with a Harmonica (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MZw_Iv0wdU%20class="link")
Éovart Grischun - Stand Tall Talossans (Grischun Arrangement) (https://m.soundcloud.com/user-220622569/stand-tall-talossans-grischun-arrangement%20class="link")
Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeMFqkcPYcg%20class="link")
First Aid Kit - My Silver Lining (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKL4X0PZz7M%20class="link")
Fitz and the Tantrums - Fool (https://youtu.be/GMi3hRWFutQ%20class="link")
Fleetwood Mac - Big Love (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZZp76M4NGc%20class="link")
Fleetwood Mac - The Chain (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDG2m5hN1vo%20class="link")
Foghat - Slow Ride (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIjZE4kcg_Q%20class="link")
Foo Fighters - Walk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PkcfQtibmU%20class="link")
Frank Sinatra - My Way (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQzdAsjWGPg%20class="link")
Frank Sinatra - Blue Moon (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw1ZC6sZjIY%20class="link")
Gaelic Storm - One More Day Above the Roses (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1E9O7niZAM%20class="link")
Gaelic Storm - Rum Runners (https://youtu.be/oKgYBAmViBU%20class="link")
Genesis - Turn It On Again (https://youtu.be/8OIkw9kJ0u4%20class="link")
Gorillaz - Feel Good Inc. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyHNuVaZJ-k%20class="link")
Gorillaz - Clint Eastwood (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V_xRb0x9aw%20class="link")
Grimethorpe Colliery Band - Adagio (Concierto De Aranjuez) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsRys49BmWw%20class="link")
Het Goede Doel - België (Is er leven op Pluto...?) (https://youtu.be/02Jo_NHl2tw%20class="link")
Idles - Danny Nedelko (https://youtu.be/QkF_G-RF66M%20class="link")
Jamiroquai - Virtual Insanity (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JkIs37a2JE%20class="link")
Jaroslav Beck (feat. Sqeepo) - Country Roads (Sqeepo Remix) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxuUVCdT6og%20class="link")
Jason Boland and the Stragglers - Devil Pays In Gold (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkH0ugzocVM%20class="link")
Jefferson Starship - Jane (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXmrMMYpQL4%20class="link")
Johnny Cash - Hurt (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AHCfZTRGiI%20class="link")
Johnny Cash - Ring of Fire (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It7107ELQvY%20class="link")
Josh Ritter - The Curse (https://youtu.be/KXBI2_zH9Js%20class="link")
Judah and the Lion - Why Did You Run? (https://youtu.be/pVLAe6A9bI8%20class="link")
Kenny Rogers - Just Dropped In (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WUTlCTi7fg%20class="link")
Kenny Rogers - The Gambler (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hx4gdlfamo%20class="link")
KISS - Black Diamond (https://youtu.be/LeUosbClag8%20class="link")
Kurt Schneider, Sam Tsui, Alex G, and Alyson Stoner - I'll Think Of You (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZpGe5rNJkI%20class="link")
Led Zeppelin - Kashmir (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfR_HWMzgyc%20class="link")
Lights - Up We Go (https://youtu.be/pFl7DhdGGzo%20class="link")
Liquido - Narcotic (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ7E40Ec5ec%20class="link")
Looking Glass - Brandy (You're a Fine Girl) (https://youtu.be/DVx8L7a3MuE%20class="link")
Louis Armstrong - What a Wonderful World (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3yCcXgbKrE%20class="link")
Ludwig von Beethoven - 9th Symphony in D minor, Op. 125, 4th movement (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDViACDYxnQ%20class="link")
Manchester Orchestra - The Alien (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71U_qjHLM58%20class="link")
Måneskin - Zitti E Buoni (https://youtu.be/0Upt-ddaw04%20class="link")
Manhattan Transfer - Birdland (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZHvsaVTrzQ%20class="link")
Marillion - Fugazi (https://youtu.be/qVGHQxWWCyg%20class="link")
Marty Robbins - Big Iron (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzICMIu5zFY%20class="link")
Men at Work - Down Under (https://youtube.com/watch?v=XfR9iY5y94s%20class="link")
Mighty Mighty Bosstones - The Impression That I Get (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIGMUAMevH0%20class="link")
Muse - Uprising (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8KQmps-Sog%20class="link")
Muse - Knights of Cydonia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3Yc3HhSl1Q%20class="link")
Nightwish - Ghost Love Score (https://youtu.be/uN3yqMr3ffY%20class="link")
OneRepublic - Preacher (https://youtu.be/87brb1K5jag%20class="link")
Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy Train (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2VZjE6JdHg%20class="link")
Panic! At The Disco - High Hopes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPXIgEAGe4U%20class="link")
Passion Pit - Take a Walk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZX6Q-Bj_xg%20class="link")
Paul McCartney and Eric Clapton - While My Guitar Gently Weeps (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrTMc2i6Lzc%20class="link")
Peter Gabriel - Solsbury Hill (https://youtu.be/_OO2PuGz-H8%20class="link")
Pixies - Wave of Mutilation (UK Surf) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BC061qfj_o%20class="link")
Police - Message in a Bottle (https://youtube.com/watch?v=ObL3L6MRvN4%20class="link")
Porcupine Tree - Arriving Somewhere but not Here (https://youtu.be/WbWhpfXisZw%20class="link")
Portugal. The Man - Feel It Still (https://youtu.be/pBkHHoOIIn8%20class="link")
Punch Brothers - Julep (https://youtu.be/Ppn7eQSBdJQ%20class="link")
Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ9rUzIMcZQ%20class="link")
Queen - Innuendo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMAgetDMMLk%20class="link")
Queen - Killer Queen (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZBtPf7FOoM%20class="link")
Queen - Don't Stop Me Now (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgzGwKwLmgM%20class="link")
Queen and David Bowie - Under Pressure (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a01QQZyl-_I%20class="link")
Radiohead - Paranoid Android (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAHaTvULHlw%20class="link")
Radiohead - Street Spirit (Fade Out) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCJblaUkkfc%20class="link")
Ramin Djawadi - Light Of The Seven (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9PXLTLuuSE%20class="link")
Rammstein - Haifisch (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GukNjYQZW8s%20class="link")
Rammstein - Spieluhr (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tkwVn31bYY%20class="link")
Reckless Kelly - Seven Nights in Eire (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQsf0ND4CNw%20class="link")
Regina Spektor - Don't Leave Me (Ne Me Quitte Pas) (https://youtu.be/BWXWivwhi14%20class="link")
Reverend Peyton's Big Damn Band - Raise a Little Hell (https://youtu.be/yWCcLW08dsU%20class="link")
Ricky Skaggs - Uncle Pen (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvXsH6sFY2M?t=1m16s%20class="link")
Rolling Stones - You Can't Always Get What You Want (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv9sDn_2XkI%20class="link")
Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil (https://youtu.be/GgnClrx8N2k%20class="link")
Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbmS3tQJ7Os%20class="link")
Rush - Subdivisions (https://youtu.be/EYYdQB0mkEU%20class="link")
Sarah Jarosz - Run Away (https://youtu.be/lKBN5ewEXdc%20class="link")
Sigur Ros - Með Suð Í Eyrum (https://youtu.be/IfaI1k2J_9g%20class="link")
Simon and Garfunkel - The Sound of Silence (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FB9GYkIT3E%20class="link")
SKOLD - Here Comes The Thunder (https://youtu.be/Pfc8wChD7Pw%20class="link")
Smash Mouth - All Star (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_jWHffIx5E%20class="link")
Soundgarden - Black Hole Sun (https://youtu.be/3mbBbFH9fAg%20class="link")
Spinners - Rubberband Man (https://youtu.be/KSMVflSBKx8%20class="link")
Sully Erna - Sinner's Prayer (https://youtu.be/DlK5N-Lcvjc%20class="link")
Supertramp - School (https://youtu.be/H2ENrW65T8k%20class="link")
Talking Heads - Once in a Lifetime (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGofoH9RDEA%20class="link")
The Who - Baba O'Riley (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2KRpRMSu4g%20class="link")
Tom Waits - God's Away on Business (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9mhsW5aWJM%20class="link")
Tom Waits - Step Right Up (https://youtu.be/ByomIJf5n9w?t=01m25s%20class="link")
Toto - Africa (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTQbiNvZqaY%20class="link")
Trammps - Disco Inferno (https://youtu.be/u5lSeYd_riw%20class="link")
Tuba Skinny - Papa's Got Your Bathwater On (https://youtu.be/DmIrEr6MsxU%20class="link")
Twenty One Pilots - Stressed Out (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXRviuL6vMY%20class="link")
U.K. Subs - Sensitive Boys (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F12aPfvTCyM%20class="link")
Vostok Lake - Cut and Run (https://vostoklakenz.bandcamp.com/track/cut-and-run%20class="link")
The Weeknd - Blinding Lights (https://youtu.be/4NRXx6U8ABQ%20class="link")
Whiskey Myers - On The River (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab3sWMXI12U%20class="link")
William Clark Green - Ringling Road (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z61Cz7zoVW4%20class="link")
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - Requiem Mass in D minor (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPlhKP0nZII%20class="link")


Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on September 01, 2021, 09:54:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFl7DhdGGzo
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on September 01, 2021, 10:01:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVLAe6A9bI8
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on September 01, 2021, 10:05:02 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMgHX2dhVlE
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Glüc on September 02, 2021, 05:49:09 AM
1. Genesis - Turn It On Again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B1ub5g5L0k
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: xpb on September 02, 2021, 08:35:32 AM
https://youtu.be/pBkHHoOIIn8
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: King Txec on September 02, 2021, 01:07:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mbBbFH9fAg
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: King Txec on September 02, 2021, 01:08:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkHjFzw1TUg
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: King Txec on September 02, 2021, 01:09:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMcCHSLMTes
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Glüc on September 04, 2021, 07:17:59 AM
2. Måneskin - Zitti e buoni

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVH5dn1cxAQ

(I really should have made a rule that Eurovision winners are automatically nominated.)
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Glüc on September 06, 2021, 06:44:46 AM
3. Porcupine Tree - Arriving Somewhere but Not Here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbWhpfXisZw
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Placiej on September 07, 2021, 06:10:22 AM
https://youtu.be/Ppn7eQSBdJQ
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Placiej on September 07, 2021, 06:11:20 AM
https://youtu.be/lKBN5ewEXdc
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Placiej on September 07, 2021, 06:14:33 AM
https://youtu.be/KXBI2_zH9Js
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on September 07, 2021, 04:57:41 PM
Anyone who has already nominated three songs may now nominate one additional song every 12 hours. Anyone who has not nominated three songs yet is still welcome to do so.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on September 07, 2021, 05:10:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKgYBAmViBU
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Glüc on September 07, 2021, 06:08:59 PM
4. Donny Benét - Santorini

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcZWSfKJ--8
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on September 07, 2021, 10:01:31 PM
Gluc, your first two links weren't working for me. How about these two:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OIkw9kJ0u4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN1odfjtMoo
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Glüc on September 08, 2021, 06:29:38 AM
First one is fine.

Second one I'd prefer a video from the Eurovision final or semi-final, but if that's not available I guess this is acceptable.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Glüc on September 08, 2021, 06:30:28 AM
5. Marillion - Fugazi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVGHQxWWCyg
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Glüc on September 09, 2021, 06:36:39 AM
6. Supertramp - School

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2ENrW65T8k
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on September 09, 2021, 11:28:13 AM
https://youtu.be/W1LsRShUPtY
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Tric'hard Lenxheir on September 09, 2021, 12:20:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVx8L7a3MuE
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Placiej on September 09, 2021, 07:24:07 PM
https://youtu.be/DlK5N-Lcvjc
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Glüc on September 09, 2021, 07:40:12 PM
Nightwish - Ghost Love Score

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN3yqMr3ffY
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: xpb on September 09, 2021, 11:36:24 PM
Devo - Freedom of Choice

https://youtu.be/dVGINIsLnqU
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on September 10, 2021, 04:58:56 PM
https://youtu.be/Utmo5p7nadA
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Glüc on September 10, 2021, 06:42:08 PM
Blur - Song 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSbBvKaM6sk
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on September 12, 2021, 04:31:01 PM
Quote from: Glüc da Dhi S.H. on September 08, 2021, 06:29:38 AM
First one is fine.

Second one I'd prefer a video from the Eurovision final or semi-final, but if that's not available I guess this is acceptable.
What about this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Upt-ddaw04
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on September 12, 2021, 04:31:39 PM
Quote from: xpb on September 09, 2021, 11:36:24 PM
Devo - Freedom of Choice

https://youtu.be/dVGINIsLnqU
This one isn't available for me, how about:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1B2tyKfrChQ
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on September 12, 2021, 04:33:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMi3hRWFutQ
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on September 12, 2021, 09:42:22 PM
17 songs left.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Glüc on September 13, 2021, 04:34:00 AM
The Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgnClrx8N2k
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Glüc on September 13, 2021, 04:35:11 PM
Rush - Subdivisions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYYdQB0mkEU
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Glüc on September 14, 2021, 12:03:23 PM
Het Goede Doel - België (Is er leven op Pluto...?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02Jo_NHl2tw
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on September 14, 2021, 06:09:51 PM
https://youtu.be/87brb1K5jag
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on September 16, 2021, 05:50:16 PM
https://youtu.be/N000qglmmY0
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: esbornatfiglheu on September 16, 2021, 08:16:30 PM
Raise a Little Hell- Reverend Peyton's Big Damn Band
https://youtu.be/yWCcLW08dsU

Rubberband Man- The Spinners
https://youtu.be/KSMVflSBKx8

Don't Leave Me (Ne Me Quitte Pas)- Regina Spektor
https://youtu.be/BWXWivwhi14

Frontier Psychiatrist- The Avalanches
https://youtu.be/qLrnkK2YEcE

The Song of Durin- Clamavi De Profundus
https://youtu.be/uxfoa23skHg

Papa's Got Your Bathwater On- Tuba Skinny
https://youtu.be/DmIrEr6MsxU
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Glüc on September 17, 2021, 10:34:35 AM
Peter Gabriel - Solsbury Hill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OO2PuGz-H8
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: xpb on September 17, 2021, 07:48:54 PM
https://youtu.be/ByomIJf5n9w?t=01m25s

Tom Waits - Step Right Up
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on September 17, 2021, 07:53:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NRXx6U8ABQ
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on September 17, 2021, 07:53:52 PM
Only three left!
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Glüc on September 18, 2021, 03:20:29 AM
IDLES - Danny Nedelko

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkF_G-RF66M
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Glüc on September 18, 2021, 03:22:09 PM
Earth, Wind & Fire - September

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs069dndIYk
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on September 18, 2021, 03:43:13 PM
https://youtu.be/O5CthPJU2N0
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Nominations]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on September 18, 2021, 03:43:52 PM
Assuming I counted correctly, that is all the nominations we need.

Round 1 will probably start tomorrow or Monday.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on September 19, 2021, 02:44:58 PM
Round 1 of the Talossan Music Top 20 - 2021!

Many thanks to everyone who nominated songs. Of course people who did not are still very welcome to participate.

Round 1 consists of ten groups of ten songs each. The top five songs in each group advance to Round 2 (and are given entry into next year's TMT20).

Groups are drawn randomly in such a way that each group contains one 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, and 10th place song from last year's Round 2, 4-5 new nominations, and 0-1 songs eliminated by random chance in Round 1 last year.

We will vote on groups two at a time (although you can vote on only one of the groups if you want). Each voting period will last three days (72 hours). Votes cast after that will not be accepted, with the exception that we will always keep going until we have at least three votes per group.

Give your top three songs 3, 2, and 1 points, respectively. You must give points to exactly three songs.

GROUP 1
Blue Öyster Cult - Burnin' For You (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oYsdAbypTk%20class="link")
Dead Kennedys - Holiday in Cambodia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KTsXHXMkJA%20class="link")
Devo - Freedom of Choice (https://youtu.be/1B2tyKfrChQ%20class="link")
Ed Welch and Robert Hartshorne, Trap Geek - Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends Main Theme Trap Remix (https://youtu.be/Utmo5p7nadA%20class="link")
Ennio Morricone - For A Few Dollars More (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtblCZQXRsA%20class="link")
Frank Sinatra - My Way (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQzdAsjWGPg%20class="link")
Kenny Rogers - Just Dropped In (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WUTlCTi7fg%20class="link")
Looking Glass - Brandy (You're a Fine Girl) (https://youtu.be/DVx8L7a3MuE%20class="link")
Rammstein - Spieluhr (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tkwVn31bYY%20class="link")
Tom Waits - Step Right Up (https://youtu.be/ByomIJf5n9w?t=01m25s%20class="link")

GROUP 2
Eagles - Lyin' Eyes (https://youtu.be/LMcCHSLMTes%20class="link")
Fleetwood Mac - Big Love (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZZp76M4NGc%20class="link")
Jefferson Starship - Jane (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXmrMMYpQL4%20class="link")
Ludwig von Beethoven - 9th Symphony in D minor, Op. 125, 4th movement (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDViACDYxnQ%20class="link")
Passion Pit - Take a Walk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZX6Q-Bj_xg%20class="link")
Pixies - Wave of Mutilation (UK Surf) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BC061qfj_o%20class="link")
Porcupine Tree - Arriving Somewhere but not Here (https://youtu.be/WbWhpfXisZw%20class="link")
Radiohead - Paranoid Android (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAHaTvULHlw%20class="link")
Regina Spektor - Don't Leave Me (Ne Me Quitte Pas) (https://youtu.be/BWXWivwhi14%20class="link")
Sully Erna - Sinner's Prayer (https://youtu.be/DlK5N-Lcvjc%20class="link")

Tiebreakers:
- Number of voters giving 3 points
- Number of voters giving 2 points
- Last year's result (Round 2 > other)
- Random chance

Any song eliminated by random chance (and any song eliminated by random chance last year that is eliminated based on last year's result) will be given entry into next year's TMT20.

Tactical voting refers to either giving more points than you normally would to a song because it would make the difference between it going through or getting eliminated, or giving fewer points than you normally would to a song because it might kick a song you like even more out of the competition. This is hard to prevent, but my very strong request would be to not do it. Give points to the songs you believe deserve to go through, regardless of how others are voting. Doing otherwise reduces the value of votes that came before you, which is unfair to them. Remember that it's not a competition between voters, but a collective effort to make a nice list of songs we like. Thanks.

I did my best with all the links but there is always a chance some are broken or have a wrong version or bad audio quality. If a link is broken or you have a suggestion for a better link, please contact me or post the link in the thread. Officially, we are not voting on the YouTube link, but on the listed Artist + Title.

COMMENTARY ON THE PROGRESS OF THE GAME, THE RULES, WHAT SONGS YOU LIKE, ETC., IS VERY WELCOME.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on September 19, 2021, 05:36:39 PM
GROUP 1
3: Burnin' For You
2: Brandy (You're a Fine Girl)
1: Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends Main Theme Trap Remix

GROUP 2
3: Take a Walk
2: Jane
1: Sinner's Prayer
HM: Don't Leave Me
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Glüc on September 19, 2021, 06:14:46 PM
Spieluhr - 3
Holiday in Cambodia - 2
For a Few Dollars More - 1

Honourable Mention:  Freedom of Choice

Paranoid Android - 3
Arriving Somewhere but not Here - 2
Big Love - 1

Honourable Mention: Don't Leave Me/Ne Me Quitte Pas

Eagles link didn't work for me
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on September 19, 2021, 06:23:44 PM
How about this:

https://youtu.be/2dANDhfWU8g
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: xpb on September 19, 2021, 06:44:26 PM
GROUP 1
3 - Tom Waits - Step Right Up
2 - Blue Öyster Cult - Burnin' For You
1 - Looking Glass - Brandy (You're a Fine Girl)

GROUP 2
3 - Ludwig von Beethoven - 9th Symphony in D minor, Op. 125, 4th movement
2 - Eagles - Lyin' Eyes
1 - Radiohead - Paranoid Android
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Glüc on September 19, 2021, 06:58:07 PM
Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on September 19, 2021, 06:23:44 PM
How about this:

I found a different version earlier, but yeah this one works too.


Also, just noticed Paranoid Android is gone too. Perhaps you could use this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt8AfIeJOxw

Also, Beethoven isn't working for me either.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on September 19, 2021, 08:43:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChygZLpJDNE
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: King Txec on September 20, 2021, 10:15:09 AM
Group 1

Blue Oyster Cult – Burnin' For You
Frank Sinatra – My Way
Kenny Rogers – Just Dropped In

Group 2

Eagles – Lyin' Eyes
Fleetwood Mac – Big Love
Radiohead – Paranoid Android
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Tric'hard Lenxheir on September 20, 2021, 01:16:37 PM
Group 1

3. Looking Glass-Brandy (You're A Fine Girl)
2. Blue Oyster Cult-Burnin' For You
1. Frank Sinatra-My Way

Group 2

3. Jefferson Starship-Jane
2. Eagles-Lyin' Eyes
1. Ludwig von Beethoven-9th Symphony in D Minor, Op. 125, 4th Movement
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Placiej on September 21, 2021, 06:09:27 PM
GROUP 1
1-Blue Öyster Cult - Burnin' For You
3-Dead Kennedys - Holiday in Cambodia
2-Frank Sinatra - My Way

GROUP 2
3-Eagles - Lyin' Eyes
1-Fleetwood Mac - Big Love
2-Sully Erna - Sinner's Prayer

Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: esbornatfiglheu on September 22, 2021, 09:36:44 AM
GROUP 1
3 Ed Welch and Robert Hartshorne, Trap Geek - Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends Main Theme Trap Remix
2 Kenny Rogers - Just Dropped In
1 Looking Glass - Brandy (You're a Fine Girl)

GROUP 2
2 Passion Pit - Take a Walk
1 Porcupine Tree - Arriving Somewhere but not Here
3 Regina Spektor - Don't Leave Me (Ne Me Quitte Pas)
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on September 22, 2021, 02:17:56 PM
Voting for Groups 1 and 2 is closed. There were seven voters, which is a very good number to start.

GROUP 1
1. Burnin' For You - 11
2. Brandy (You're a Fine Girl) - 7
3. Holiday in Cambodia - 5 (one 3-point vote)
4. My Way - 5 (no 3-point votes)
5. Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends Main Theme Trap Remix - 4

6. Spieluhr - 3 (one 3-point vote, R2 last year)
7. Step Right Up - 3 (one 3-point vote, new this year)
8. Just Dropped In - 3 (no 3-point votes)
9. For A Few Dollars More - 1
10. Freedom of Choice - 0

GROUP 2
1. Lyin' Eyes - 10
2. Jane - 5 (one 2-point vote, R2 last year)
3. Take a Walk - 5 (one 2-point vote, R1 last year)
4. Paranoid Android - 5 (no 2-point votes)
5. 9th Symphony in D minor, Op. 125, 4th movement - 4 (one 3-point vote)

6. Big Love - 4 (no 3-point vote)
7. Don't Leave Me (Ne Me Quitte Pas) - 3 (one 3-point vote)
8. Arriving Somewhere but not Here - 3 (no 3-point votes, random chance)
9. Sinner's Prayer - 3 (no 3-point votes, random chance)
10. Wave of Mutilation (UK Surf) - 0
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on September 22, 2021, 02:55:43 PM
TMT20 ROUND 1 - GROUPS 3 AND 4

Round 1 consists of ten groups of ten songs each. The top five songs in each group advance to Round 2 (and are given entry into next year's TMT20).

Groups are drawn randomly in such a way that each group contains one 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, and 10th place song from last year's Round 2, 4-5 new nominations, and 0-1 songs eliminated by random chance in Round 1 last year.

We will vote on groups two at a time (although you can vote on only one of the groups if you want). Each voting period will last three days (72 hours). Votes cast after that will not be accepted, with the exception that we will always keep going until we have at least three votes per group.

Give your top three songs 3, 2, and 1 points, respectively. You must give points to exactly three songs.

GROUP 3
Antonio Vivaldi - Gloria In Excelsis Deo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2unX4boA6TI%20class="link")
Bob Dylan - Queen Jane Approximately (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-ZmD3sCFcE%20class="link")
Bon Jovi - Wanted Dead Or Alive (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRvCvsRp5ho%20class="link")
Dropkick Murphys - I'm Shipping Up To Boston (https://youtu.be/pMgHX2dhVlE%20class="link")
Dua Lipa - Levitating (https://youtu.be/N000qglmmY0%20class="link")
Jaroslav Beck (feat. Sqeepo) - Country Roads (Sqeepo Remix) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxuUVCdT6og%20class="link")
Judah and the Lion - Why Did You Run? (https://youtu.be/pVLAe6A9bI8%20class="link")
Lights - Up We Go (https://youtu.be/pFl7DhdGGzo%20class="link")
Manhattan Transfer - Birdland (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZHvsaVTrzQ%20class="link")
Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil (https://youtu.be/GgnClrx8N2k%20class="link")

GROUP 4
Beatles - Let it Be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDYfEBY9NM4%20class="link")
Blair Crimmins and the Hookers - Old Man Cabbage (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwzPwwaZ2EI%20class="link")
Blur - The Universal (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2jmBCfbgZc%20class="link")
DragonForce - Through the Fire and Flames (https://youtu.be/O5CthPJU2N0%20class="link")
Éovart Grischun - Stand Tall Talossans (Grischun Arrangement) (https://m.soundcloud.com/user-220622569/stand-tall-talossans-grischun-arrangement%20class="link")
Fitz and the Tantrums - Fool (https://youtu.be/GMi3hRWFutQ%20class="link")
Foo Fighters - Walk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PkcfQtibmU%20class="link")
Punch Brothers - Julep (https://youtu.be/Ppn7eQSBdJQ%20class="link")
Sarah Jarosz - Run Away (https://youtu.be/lKBN5ewEXdc%20class="link")
Supertramp - School (https://youtu.be/H2ENrW65T8k%20class="link")

Tiebreakers:
- Number of voters giving 3 points
- Number of voters giving 2 points
- Last year's result (Round 2 > other)
- Random chance

Any song eliminated by random chance will be given entry into next year's TMT20.

Tactical voting refers to either giving more points than you normally would to a song because it would make the difference between it going through or getting eliminated, or giving fewer points than you normally would to a song because it might kick a song you like even more out of the competition. This is hard to prevent, but my very strong request would be to not do it. Give points to the songs you believe deserve to go through, regardless of how others are voting. Doing otherwise reduces the value of votes that came before you, which is unfair to them. Remember that it's not a competition between voters, but a collective effort to make a nice list of songs we like. Thanks.

I did my best with all the links but there is always a chance some are broken or have a wrong version or bad audio quality. If a link is broken or you have a suggestion for a better link, please contact me or post the link in the thread. Officially, we are not voting on the YouTube link, but on the listed Artist + Title.

COMMENTARY ON THE PROGRESS OF THE GAME, THE RULES, WHAT SONGS YOU LIKE, ETC., IS VERY WELCOME.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Tric'hard Lenxheir on September 22, 2021, 03:29:17 PM
Group 3

3-Bon Jovi-Wanted Dead Or Alive
2-Rolling Stones-Sympathy For The Devil
1-Manhattan Transfer-Birdland

Group 4

3-Supertramp-School
2-The Beatles-Let It Be
1-Éovart Grischun - Stand Tall Talossans (Grischun Arrangement)
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Placiej on September 22, 2021, 06:00:41 PM
GROUP 3
1-Antonio Vivaldi - Gloria In Excelsis Deo
2-Bon Jovi - Wanted Dead Or Alive
3-Dropkick Murphys - I'm Shipping Up To Boston

GROUP 4

1-Foo Fighters - Walk
2-Punch Brothers - Julep
3-Sarah Jarosz - Run Away
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on September 22, 2021, 08:50:58 PM
Group 3 might be the most stacked group (for my taste) of any group I've ever voted on in TMT20. It includes all of my initial three nominations this year, as well as four other songs I'd also love to give points to (three of which were also my nominations at some point).

GROUP 3
3 - Up We Go
2 - Why Did You Run?
1 - I'm Shipping Up to Boston

GROUP 4
3 - Walk
2 - Through the Fire and Flames
1 - Fool
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: esbornatfiglheu on September 23, 2021, 07:40:28 AM
GROUP 3
2- Dua Lipa - Levitating
1- Jaroslav Beck (feat. Sqeepo) - Country Roads (Sqeepo Remix)
3- Manhattan Transfer - Birdland

GROUP 4
3- Blair Crimmins and the Hookers - Old Man Cabbage
1- Foo Fighters - Walk
2- Sarah Jarosz - Run Away

Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: xpb on September 23, 2021, 05:16:23 PM
Group 3
3 - Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil
2 - Dropkick Murphys - I'm Shipping Up To Boston
1 - Antonio Vivaldi - Gloria In Excelsis Deo

Group 4
3 - Foo Fighters - Walk
2 - Sarah Jarosz - Run Away
1 - Éovart Grischun - Stand Tall Talossans (Grischun Arrangement) on general principles but I can't seem to make the link work at https://soundcloud.com/user-220622569/stand-tall-talossans-grischun-arrangement%20class=%22link%22

EDIT - this one seems to work https://soundcloud.com/user-220622569/stand-tall-talossans-grischun-arrangement for Stand Tall Talossans just remove the trailing info
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Glüc on September 23, 2021, 05:31:36 PM
Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on September 22, 2021, 02:17:56 PM
5. Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends Main Theme Trap Remix - 4
6. Spieluhr - 3 (one 3-point vote, R2 last year)


This has to be the most painful result in TMT history  :'(

(For me, anyway, but then again I unironically think Spieluhr is one of the most beautiful songs ever created.)
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Glüc on September 23, 2021, 06:22:14 PM
Sympathy for the Devil - 3
Wanted Dead or Alive - 2
Levitating - 1

The Universal - 3
School - 2
Walk - 1
HM: Run Away

Also couldn't find the anthem anymore sadly.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: King Txec on September 24, 2021, 01:07:13 PM
Group 3

Antonio Vivaldi - Gloria in Excelsis Deo
Bon Jovi - Wanted Dead or Alive
Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil

Group 4

Beatles - Let It Be
Blur - The Universal
Eovart Grischun - Stand Tall Talossans (Grischun Arrangement)
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on September 25, 2021, 08:31:42 PM
Voting for Groups 3 and 4 is closed. Seven voters again! Every advancing song so far has received votes from at least two voters, which is nice.

GROUP 3
1. Sympathy for the Devil - 9 (two 3-point votes)
2. Wanted Dead Or Alive - 9 (one 3-point vote)
3. I'm Shipping Up To Boston - 6
4. Gloria In Excelsis Deo - 5
5. Birdland - 4

6. Up We Go - 3 (one 3-point vote)
7. Levitating - 3 (no 3-point votes)
8. Why Did You Run? - 2
9. Country Rounds (Sqeepo Remix) - 1
10. Queen Jane Approximately - 0

GROUP 4
1. Walk - 9
2. Run Away - 7
3. Let it Be - 5 (R2 last year, random chance)
4. The Universal - 5 (R2 last year, random chance)
5. School - 5 (new this year)

6. Old Man Cabbage - 3 (one 3-point vote)
7. Stand Tall Talossans (Grischun Arrangement) - 3 (no 3-point votes)
8. Julep - 2 (random chance)
9. Through the Fire and Flames - 2 (random chance)
10. Fool - 1

Group 4 is the first group in which all ten songs got at least one point.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on September 25, 2021, 08:37:55 PM
TMT20 ROUND 1 - GROUPS 5 AND 6

Round 1 consists of ten groups of ten songs each. The top five songs in each group advance to Round 2 (and are given entry into next year's TMT20).

Groups are drawn randomly in such a way that each group contains one 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, and 10th place song from last year's Round 2, 4-5 new nominations, and 0-1 songs eliminated by random chance in Round 1 last year.

We will vote on groups two at a time (although you can vote on only one of the groups if you want). Each voting period will last three days (72 hours). Votes cast after that will not be accepted, with the exception that we will always keep going until we have at least three votes per group.

Give your top three songs 3, 2, and 1 points, respectively. You must give points to exactly three songs.

GROUP 5
Billie Eilish - Bury a Friend (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUHC9tYz8ik%20class="link")
Earth, Wind and Fire - September (https://youtu.be/Gs069dndIYk%20class="link")
Fleetwood Mac - The Chain (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDG2m5hN1vo%20class="link")
Gaelic Storm - Rum Runners (https://youtu.be/oKgYBAmViBU%20class="link")
Het Goede Doel - België (Is er leven op Pluto...?) (https://youtu.be/02Jo_NHl2tw%20class="link")
Idles - Danny Nedelko (https://youtu.be/QkF_G-RF66M%20class="link")
Ricky Skaggs - Uncle Pen (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvXsH6sFY2M?t=1m16s%20class="link")
Smash Mouth - All Star (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_jWHffIx5E%20class="link")
Soundgarden - Black Hole Sun (https://youtu.be/3mbBbFH9fAg%20class="link")
U.K. Subs - Sensitive Boys (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F12aPfvTCyM%20class="link")

GROUP 6
Archive - Controlling Crowds (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w2AEoxMSCg%20class="link")
B.T. Express - Express (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWqYQcKkUKs%20class="link")
Don McLean - American Pie (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yHTpGog0IY%20class="link")
Gorillaz - Feel Good Inc. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyHNuVaZJ-k%20class="link")
KISS - Black Diamond (https://youtu.be/LeUosbClag8%20class="link")
Portugal. The Man - Feel It Still (https://youtu.be/pBkHHoOIIn8%20class="link")
Queen - Killer Queen (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZBtPf7FOoM%20class="link")
Reverend Peyton's Big Damn Band - Raise a Little Hell (https://youtu.be/yWCcLW08dsU%20class="link")
The Weeknd - Blinding Lights (https://youtu.be/4NRXx6U8ABQ%20class="link")
Vostok Lake - Cut and Run (https://vostoklakenz.bandcamp.com/track/cut-and-run%20class="link")

Tiebreakers:
- Number of voters giving 3 points
- Number of voters giving 2 points
- Last year's result (Round 2 > other)
- Random chance

Any song eliminated by random chance will be given entry into next year's TMT20.

Tactical voting refers to either giving more points than you normally would to a song because it would make the difference between it going through or getting eliminated, or giving fewer points than you normally would to a song because it might kick a song you like even more out of the competition. This is hard to prevent, but my very strong request would be to not do it. Give points to the songs you believe deserve to go through, regardless of how others are voting. Doing otherwise reduces the value of votes that came before you, which is unfair to them. Remember that it's not a competition between voters, but a collective effort to make a nice list of songs we like. Thanks.

I did my best with all the links but there is always a chance some are broken or have a wrong version or bad audio quality. If a link is broken or you have a suggestion for a better link, please contact me or post the link in the thread. Officially, we are not voting on the YouTube link, but on the listed Artist + Title.

COMMENTARY ON THE PROGRESS OF THE GAME, THE RULES, WHAT SONGS YOU LIKE, ETC., IS VERY WELCOME.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on September 25, 2021, 08:39:22 PM
Stand Tall Talossans did not make it through despite being tied for the most one-point votes (3) so far this year.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on September 25, 2021, 08:51:54 PM
GROUP 5
3 - Gaelic Storm - Rum Runners
2 - Fleetwood Mac - The Chain
1 - Ricky Skaggs - Uncle Pen
HM: September
HM: All Star

GROUP 6
3 - The Weeknd - Blinding Lights
2 - Queen - Killer Queen
1 - KISS - Black Diamond
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Tric'hard Lenxheir on September 26, 2021, 10:31:29 AM
Group 5

3. Fleetwood Mac-The Chain
2. Earth, Wind and Fire-September
1. Ricky Skaggs-Uncle Pen

Group 6

3. Kiss-Black Diamond
2. Queen-Killer Queen
1. Don McLean-American Pie
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: esbornatfiglheu on September 26, 2021, 04:47:00 PM
GROUP 5
1- Billie Eilish - Bury a Friend
2- Gaelic Storm - Rum Runners
3- Het Goede Doel - België (Is er leven op Pluto...?)

GROUP 6
3- Reverend Peyton's Big Damn Band - Raise a Little Hell
1- The Weeknd - Blinding Lights
2- Vostok Lake - Cut and Run
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Placiej on September 28, 2021, 07:16:06 AM
GROUP 5
1-Earth, Wind and Fire - September
3-Fleetwood Mac - The Chain
2-Gaelic Storm - Rum runners

GROUP 6
2-Don McLean - American Pie
1-Gorillaz - Feel Good Inc.
3-Queen - Killer Queen
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Glüc on September 28, 2021, 12:40:37 PM
5. Man this is is a difficult group to vote on. Have to leave three of my own new nominations pointless...
3 - The Chain
2 - Black Hole Sun
1 - Bury a Friend

6. Controlling crowds is a masterpiece. Amazing buildup. Sadly, the three points had to go elsewhere.
3 - Feel Good Inc.
2 - Controlling Crowds
1 - Cut and Run
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: xpb on September 29, 2021, 07:49:43 AM
GROUP 5
3 - Earth, Wind and Fire - September
2 - Soundgarden - Black Hole Sun
1 - Fleetwood Mac - The Chain

GROUP 6
3 - Portugal. The Man - Feel It Still
2 - Queen - Killer Queen
1 - Don McLean - American Pie
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on September 29, 2021, 11:59:03 AM
Quote from: xpb on September 29, 2021, 07:49:43 AM
GROUP 5
3 - Earth, Wind and Fire - September
2 - Soundgarden - Black Hole Sun
1 - Fleetwood Mac - The Chain

GROUP 6
3 - Portugal. The Man - Feel It Still
2 - Queen - Killer Queen
1 - Don McLean - American Pie
Unfortunately I will not be able to accept this vote as it was cast after the 72 hour voting period.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on September 29, 2021, 01:32:38 PM
Voting for Groups 5 and 6 is closed.

GROUP 5
1. The Chain - 11
2. Rum Runners - 7
3. België (Is er leven op Pluto...?) - 3 (one 3-point vote)
4. September - 3 (no 3-point votes)
5. Black Hole Sun - 2 (one 2-point vote)

6. Uncle Pen - 2 (no 2-point votes, random chance)
7. Bury a Friend - 2 (no 2-point votes, random chance)
8. Sensitive Boys - 0 (R2 last year, random chance)
9. All Star - 0 (R2 last year, random chance)
10. Danny Nedelko - 0 (new this year)

-The Chain turned in an absolutely monster performance, with 2.2 points per voter. 60% of voters gave it 3 points.
-I'm sad to see Uncle Pen narrowly eliminated after many years (it was first nominated in 2016).
-Four of the advancing songs are new this year.

GROUP 6
1. Killer Queen - 7
2. Feel Good Inc. - 4 (R2 last year)
3. Black Diamond - 4 (new this year, random chance)
4. Blinding Lights - 4 (new this year, random chance)
5. Raise a Little Hell - 3 (one 3-point vote)

6. American Pie - 3 (no 3-point votes, R2 last year)
7. Cut and Run - 3 (no 3-point votes, new this year)
8. Controlling Crowds - 2
9. Express - 0 (R2 last year)
10. Feel It Still - 0 (new this year)

-Had Sir Pol's vote been cast in time, American Pie would have jumped Raise a Little Hell to get the #5 spot.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on September 29, 2021, 01:39:03 PM
TMT20 ROUND 1 - GROUPS 7 AND 8

Round 1 consists of ten groups of ten songs each. The top five songs in each group advance to Round 2 (and are given entry into next year's TMT20).

Groups are drawn randomly in such a way that each group contains one 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, and 10th place song from last year's Round 2, 4-5 new nominations, and 0-1 songs eliminated by random chance in Round 1 last year.

We will vote on groups two at a time (although you can vote on only one of the groups if you want). Each voting period will last three days (72 hours). Votes cast after that will not be accepted, with the exception that we will always keep going until we have at least three votes per group.

Give your top three songs 3, 2, and 1 points, respectively. You must give points to exactly three songs.

GROUP 7
Aerosmith - Same old Song and Dance (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g_r_j_i_6U%20class="link")
Booker T. and the MG's - Green Onions (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oox9bJaGJ8%20class="link")
Liquido - Narcotic (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ7E40Ec5ec%20class="link")
Marillion - Fugazi (https://youtu.be/qVGHQxWWCyg%20class="link")
Rush - Subdivisions (https://youtu.be/EYYdQB0mkEU%20class="link")
SKOLD - Here Comes The Thunder (https://youtu.be/Pfc8wChD7Pw%20class="link")
Spinners - Rubberband Man (https://youtu.be/KSMVflSBKx8%20class="link")
Trammps - Disco Inferno (https://youtu.be/u5lSeYd_riw%20class="link")
Twenty One Pilots - Stressed Out (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXRviuL6vMY%20class="link")
William Clark Green - Ringling Road (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z61Cz7zoVW4%20class="link")

GROUP 8
Creed - What If (https://youtu.be/BkHjFzw1TUg%20class="link")
Derek and the Dominos - Layla (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n92zksrhbc%20class="link")
Gorillaz - Clint Eastwood (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V_xRb0x9aw%20class="link")
Johnny Cash - Hurt (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AHCfZTRGiI%20class="link")
Josh Ritter - The Curse (https://youtu.be/KXBI2_zH9Js%20class="link")
Kenny Rogers - The Gambler (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hx4gdlfamo%20class="link")
Måneskin - Zitti E Buoni (https://youtu.be/0Upt-ddaw04%20class="link")
Marty Robbins - Big Iron (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzICMIu5zFY%20class="link")
Sigur Ros - Með Suð Í Eyrum (https://youtu.be/IfaI1k2J_9g%20class="link")
Tuba Skinny - Papa's Got Your Bathwater On (https://youtu.be/DmIrEr6MsxU%20class="link")

Tiebreakers:
- Number of voters giving 3 points
- Number of voters giving 2 points
- Last year's result (Round 2 > other)
- Random chance

Any song eliminated by random chance will be given entry into next year's TMT20.

Tactical voting refers to either giving more points than you normally would to a song because it would make the difference between it going through or getting eliminated, or giving fewer points than you normally would to a song because it might kick a song you like even more out of the competition. This is hard to prevent, but my very strong request would be to not do it. Give points to the songs you believe deserve to go through, regardless of how others are voting. Doing otherwise reduces the value of votes that came before you, which is unfair to them. Remember that it's not a competition between voters, but a collective effort to make a nice list of songs we like. Thanks.

I did my best with all the links but there is always a chance some are broken or have a wrong version or bad audio quality. If a link is broken or you have a suggestion for a better link, please contact me or post the link in the thread. Officially, we are not voting on the YouTube link, but on the listed Artist + Title.

COMMENTARY ON THE PROGRESS OF THE GAME, THE RULES, WHAT SONGS YOU LIKE, ETC., IS VERY WELCOME.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Tric'hard Lenxheir on September 29, 2021, 02:16:57 PM
Group 7

3. Spinners-Rubberband Man
2. Rush-Subdivisions
1. Aerosmith-Same Old Song And Dance

Group 8

3. Marty Robbins-Big Iron
2. Kenny Rogers-The Gambler
1. Johnny Cash-Hurt
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Glüc on September 29, 2021, 02:37:25 PM
Here Comes the Thunder link not working for me.

Also, for those who are not blocked by youtube from seeing eurovision performances, here is the Zitti e Buoni clip as intended: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVH5dn1cxAQ
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: esbornatfiglheu on September 29, 2021, 03:43:51 PM
GROUP 7
2-Booker T. and the MG's - Green Onions
3- Spinners - Rubberband Man
1- Twenty One Pilots - Stressed Out

GROUP 8
1- Måneskin - Zitti E Buoni
2- Sigur Ros - Með Suð Í Eyrum
3- Tuba Skinny - Papa's Got Your Bathwater On
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: xpb on September 29, 2021, 04:19:17 PM
OK trying this time to get my votes within the window...

Group 7
3 - Booker T. and the MG's - Green Onions
2 - Trammps - Disco Inferno
1 - Spinners - Rubberband Man

Group 8
3 - Johnny Cash - Hurt
2 - Derek and the Dominos - Layla
1 - Måneskin - Zitti E Buoni
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Glüc on September 29, 2021, 06:53:21 PM
7.
Subdivisions - 3
Fugazi - 2
Narcotic - 1
HM: Here Comes the Thunder

8.
Clint Eastwood - 3
Zitti e Buoni - 2
Með Suð Í Eyrum - 1
HM: The Curse

(Though most songs in both groups deserve points tbh.)
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Glüc on October 01, 2021, 04:01:27 PM
Just realised, based on what's left: the last two groups are gonna be ridiculously stacked  :o
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Placiej on October 01, 2021, 05:13:23 PM
GROUP 7
3-Aerosmith - Same old Song and Dance
1-Twenty One Pilots - Stressed Out
2-William Clark Green - Ringling Road

GROUP 8

2-Derek and the Dominos - Layla
3-Johnny Cash - Hurt
1-Josh Ritter - The curse
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on October 01, 2021, 09:26:54 PM
GROUP 7
3 - Twenty One Pilots - Stressed Out
2 - Aerosmith - Same old Song and Dance
1 - William Clark Green - Ringling Road

GROUP 8
3 - Måneskin - Zitti E Buoni
2 - Kenny Rogers - The Gambler
1 - Derek and the Dominos - Layla

Zitti E Buoni is probably my favorite new discovery so far.
No points left for Big Iron unfortunatley.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on October 02, 2021, 02:02:14 PM
Voting for Groups 7 and 8 is closed.

GROUP 7
1. Rubberband Man - 7
2. Same old Song and Dance - 6
3. Green Onions - 5 (one 2-point vote, R2 last year)
4. Subdivisions - 5 (one 2-point vote, new this year)
5. Stressed Out - 5 (no 2-point votes)

6. Ringling Road - 3
7. Fugazi - 2 (random chance)
8. Disco Inferno (randome chance)
9. Narcotic - 1
10. Here Comes The Thunder - 0

GROUP 8
1. Hurt - 7 (two 3-point votes)
2. Zitti E Buoni - 7 (one 3-point vote)
3. Layla - 5
4. The Gambler - 4
5. Clint Eastwood - 3 (one 3-point vote, R2 last year, random chance)

6. Big Iron - 3 (one 3-point vote, R2 last year, random chance)
7. Papa's Got Your Bathwater On - 3 (one 3-point vote, new this year)
8. Með Suð Í Eyrum - 3 (no 3-point votes)
9. The Curse - 1
10. What If - 0

Big Iron becomes the first song to be eliminated by random chance.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on October 02, 2021, 02:07:41 PM
TMT20 ROUND 1 - GROUPS 9 AND 10

Round 1 consists of ten groups of ten songs each. The top five songs in each group advance to Round 2 (and are given entry into next year's TMT20).

Groups are drawn randomly in such a way that each group contains one 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, and 10th place song from last year's Round 2, 4-5 new nominations, and 0-1 songs eliminated by random chance in Round 1 last year.

We will vote on groups two at a time (although you can vote on only one of the groups if you want). Each voting period will last three days (72 hours). Votes cast after that will not be accepted, with the exception that we will always keep going until we have at least three votes per group.

Give your top three songs 3, 2, and 1 points, respectively. You must give points to exactly three songs.

GROUP 9
Avalanches - Frontier Psychiatrist (https://youtu.be/qLrnkK2YEcE%20class="link")
Blur - Song 2 (https://youtu.be/SSbBvKaM6sk%20class="link")
Bob Segar - Old Time Rock and Roll (https://youtu.be/W1LsRShUPtY%20class="link")
Chvrches - The Mother we Share (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mTRvJ9fugM%20class="link")
Crosby, Stills and Nash - Southern Cross (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cBsnopTVmo%20class="link")
Foghat - Slow Ride (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIjZE4kcg_Q%20class="link")
Jamiroquai - Virtual Insanity (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JkIs37a2JE%20class="link")
Nightwish - Ghost Love Score (https://youtu.be/uN3yqMr3ffY%20class="link")
OneRepublic - Preacher (https://youtu.be/87brb1K5jag%20class="link")
Tom Waits - God's Away on Business (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9mhsW5aWJM%20class="link")

GROUP 10
Beach Boys - I Get Around (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wREBD2og5iY%20class="link")
Black Eyed Peas - Let's Get It Started (https://youtu.be/IKqV7DB8Iwg%20class="link")
Clamavi De Profundus - The Song of Durin (https://youtu.be/uxfoa23skHg%20class="link")
Coldplay - Fix You (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4V3Mo61fJM%20class="link")
Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young - Ohio (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68g76j9VBvM%20class="link")
Donny Benét - Santorini (https://youtu.be/WcZWSfKJ--8%20class="link")
First Aid Kit - My Silver Lining (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKL4X0PZz7M%20class="link")
Genesis - Turn It On Again (https://youtu.be/8OIkw9kJ0u4%20class="link")
Kurt Schneider, Sam Tsui, Alex G, and Alyson Stoner - I'll Think Of You (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZpGe5rNJkI%20class="link")
Peter Gabriel - Solsbury Hill (https://youtu.be/_OO2PuGz-H8%20class="link")

Tiebreakers:
- Number of voters giving 3 points
- Number of voters giving 2 points
- Last year's result (Round 2 > other)
- Random chance

Any song eliminated by random chance will be given entry into next year's TMT20.

Tactical voting refers to either giving more points than you normally would to a song because it would make the difference between it going through or getting eliminated, or giving fewer points than you normally would to a song because it might kick a song you like even more out of the competition. This is hard to prevent, but my very strong request would be to not do it. Give points to the songs you believe deserve to go through, regardless of how others are voting. Doing otherwise reduces the value of votes that came before you, which is unfair to them. Remember that it's not a competition between voters, but a collective effort to make a nice list of songs we like. Thanks.

I did my best with all the links but there is always a chance some are broken or have a wrong version or bad audio quality. If a link is broken or you have a suggestion for a better link, please contact me or post the link in the thread. Officially, we are not voting on the YouTube link, but on the listed Artist + Title.

COMMENTARY ON THE PROGRESS OF THE GAME, THE RULES, WHAT SONGS YOU LIKE, ETC., IS VERY WELCOME.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Tric'hard Lenxheir on October 02, 2021, 02:18:39 PM
Group 9

3. Bob Seger-Old Time Rock-n-Roll
2. Nightwish-Ghost Love Score
1. Foghat-Slow Ride

Group 10

3. Genesis-Turn It On Again
2. Clamavi De Profundis-Song Of Durin
1. The Beach Boys-I Get Around
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: xpb on October 02, 2021, 09:31:18 PM
Group 9
3 Tom Waits - God's Away on Business
2 Crosby, Stills and Nash - Southern Cross
1 Nightwish - Ghost Love Score

Group 10
3 Peter Gabriel - Solsbury Hill
2 Black Eyed Peas - Let's Get It Started
1 Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young - Ohio
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on October 02, 2021, 09:45:11 PM
GROUP 9
3 - Bob Segar - Old Time Rock and Roll
2 - Foghat - Slow Ride
1 - Crosby, Stills and Nash - Southern Cross
HM - Jamiroquai - Virtual Insanity

Another tough group, in which I was not able to give points to one of my own new nominations.

The Mother We Share is not one of my favorite CHVRCHES songs. I must have forgotten when Clearest Blue was eliminated because I didn't realize this is the only song of theirs in the competition. Remind me next year to show them some love.

GROUP 10
3 - Black Eyed Peas - Let's Get It Started
2 - Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young - Ohio
1 - Beach Boys - I Get Around
HM: Kurt Schneider, Sam Tsui, Alex G, and Alyson Stoner - I'll Think Of You

I too was surprised to find Let's Get It Started at the top of my list.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Glüc on October 03, 2021, 02:07:22 PM
Have to disagree with Ian. There's plenty of Chvrches songs I like, but The Mother We Share is the one that got me addicted and it's still on another level for me. Also sadly I feel a lot of the newer material is just more of the same and not really going anywhere new. Gun or Tether (or Clearest Blue) would definitely get points from me in most groups though.

Group 9:
3: The Mother We Share
2: Ghost Love Score
1: Song 2
HM: Frontier Psychiatrist.
Also sad about not having points left for Virtual Insanity. Bob Segar also a strong new nomination (even though I do not share his nostalgia).

Group 10: I don't even know where to start here. Way too many personal favourites in one group. Choosing between the best of Peter Gabriel and the best of Genesis without Gabriel was particularly difficult.
3: Fix You
2: My Silver Lining
1: Solsbury Hill
Song of Durin, Ohio and obviously Santorini may well have gotten points in a weaker group as well.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: esbornatfiglheu on October 03, 2021, 02:35:58 PM
GROUP 9
2- Avalanches - Frontier Psychiatrist
1- Nightwish - Ghost Love Score
3- Tom Waits - God's Away on Business

GROUP 10
1- Black Eyed Peas - Let's Get It Started
3- Clamavi De Profundus - The Song of Durin
2- Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young - Ohio (this is about the University where I work)

Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Glüc on October 03, 2021, 03:32:32 PM
Quote from: Glüc da Dhi S.H. on October 03, 2021, 02:07:22 PMAlso sadly I feel a lot of the newer material is just more of the same and not really going anywhere new.

Really shouldn't have posted this before listening to How Not to Drown, cause I just did and now I immediately have to eat my words.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Placiej on October 04, 2021, 02:40:21 PM
GROUP 9
1-Bob Segar - Old Time Rock and Roll
2-Crosby, Stills and Nash - Southern Cross
3-Foghat - Slow Ride

GROUP 10

1-Black Eyed Peas - Let's Get It Started
2-Coldplay - Fix You
3-Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young - Ohio

Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on October 05, 2021, 06:13:41 PM
Voting for Groups 9 and 10 is closed.

GROUP 9
1. Old Time Rock and Roll - 7
2. God's Away on Business - 6 (two 3-point votes)
3. Slow Ride - 6 (one 3-point vote)
4. Ghost Love Score - 6 (no 3-point votes)
5. Southern Cross - 5

6. The Mother we Share - 3
7. Frontier Psychiatrist - 2
8. Song 2 - 1
9. Virtual Insanity - 0 (R2 last year)
10. Preacher - 0 (new this year)

GROUP 10
1. Ohio - 8
2. Let's Get It Started - 7
3. Fix You - 5 (R2 last year)
4. The Song of Durin - 5 (new this year)
5. Solsbury Hill - 4

6. Turn It On Again - 3
7. My Silver Lining - 2 (one 2-point vote)
8. I Get Around - 2 (no 2-point votes)
9. I'll Think Of You - 0 (R2 last year)
10. Santorini - 0 (new this year)
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on October 05, 2021, 09:40:49 PM
TOP ROUND 1 HEATSEEKERS (BY POINTS PER VOTER)
1. The Chain - 2.2
2. Burnin' For You - 1.571
3. Lyin' Eyes - 1.429
4. Rum Runners - 1.4

4. Killer Queen - 1.4
6. Ohio - 1.333
7. Sympathy for the Devil - 1.286
7. Wanted Dead Or Alive - 1.286
7. Walk - 1.286
10. Rubberband Man - 1.167
10. Hurt - 1.167
10. Zitti E Buoni - 1.167
10. Old Time Rock and Roll - 1.167

10. Let's Get It Started - 1.167


New nominations in bold
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 1 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on October 05, 2021, 09:45:42 PM
The top song by PPV not to advance to round 2 is American Pie, which received .6 PPV

The bottom song by PPV to advance to round 2 is Black Hole Sun, which received .4 PPV
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on October 05, 2021, 10:21:10 PM
TMT20 ROUND 2 - GROUPS 1 AND 2

Round 2 consists of ten groups of ten songs each. The top five songs in each group advance to Round 3.

Groups are drawn randomly in such a way that each group contains one 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th place song from Round 1, 2-3 songs eliminated in Round 3 last year, 0-1 songs eliminated in Round 4 last year, 1 song ranked between 11-20 last year, and 1 song ranked between 1-10 last year.

We will vote on groups two at a time (although you can vote on only one of the groups if you want). Each voting period will last three days (72 hours). Votes cast after that will not be accepted, with the exception that we will always keep going until we have at least three votes per group.

Give your top four songs 4, 3, 2, and 1 points, respectively. You must give points to exactly three or four songs (awarding the 1-point vote is optional).

GROUP 1
Carbon Leaf - The Donnybrook Affair (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywRCpwzQd7o%20class="link")
Dire Straits - Sultans Of Swing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIufLA7Bx2Q%20class="link")
Dropkick Murphys - I'm Shipping Up To Boston (https://youtu.be/pMgHX2dhVlE%20class="link")
Ennio Morricone - Man with a Harmonica (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MZw_Iv0wdU%20class="link")
Måneskin - Zitti E Buoni (https://youtu.be/0Upt-ddaw04%20class="link")
Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy Train (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2VZjE6JdHg%20class="link")
Ramin Djawadi - Light Of The Seven (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9PXLTLuuSE%20class="link")
Rush - Subdivisions (https://youtu.be/EYYdQB0mkEU%20class="link")
Soundgarden - Black Hole Sun (https://youtu.be/3mbBbFH9fAg%20class="link")
Spinners - Rubberband Man (https://youtu.be/KSMVflSBKx8%20class="link")

GROUP 2
Antonio Vivaldi - Gloria In Excelsis Deo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2unX4boA6TI%20class="link")
B-52's - Roam (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNwC0sp-uA4%20class="link")
Bachman-Turner Overdrive - My Wheels Won't Turn (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRlKXrIaPXc%20class="link")
Beatles - Let it Be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDYfEBY9NM4%20class="link")
Black Eyed Peas - Let's Get It Started (https://youtu.be/IKqV7DB8Iwg%20class="link")
Dave Brubeck Quartet - Take Five (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHdU5sHigYQ%20class="link")
Ed Welch and Robert Hartshorne, Trap Geek - Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends Main Theme Trap Remix (https://youtu.be/Utmo5p7nadA%20class="link")
Johnny Cash - Hurt (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AHCfZTRGiI%20class="link")
Muse - Knights of Cydonia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3Yc3HhSl1Q%20class="link")
Toto - Africa (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTQbiNvZqaY%20class="link")

Tiebreakers:
- Number of voters giving 4 points
- Number of voters giving 3 points
- Number of voters giving 2 points
- Last year's result (1 > 2 > ... > 20 > Round 4 > Round 3 > Round 2 > other)
- PPV in Round 1 (if applicable)
- Random chance

Tactical voting refers to either giving more points than you normally would to a song because it would make the difference between it going through or getting eliminated, or giving fewer points than you normally would to a song because it might kick a song you like even more out of the competition. This is hard to prevent, but my very strong request would be to not do it. Give points to the songs you believe deserve to go through, regardless of how others are voting. Doing otherwise reduces the value of votes that came before you, which is unfair to them. Remember that it's not a competition between voters, but a collective effort to make a nice list of songs we like. Thanks.

I did my best with all the links but there is always a chance some are broken or have a wrong version or bad audio quality. If a link is broken or you have a suggestion for a better link, please contact me or post the link in the thread. Officially, we are not voting on the YouTube link, but on the listed Artist + Title.

COMMENTARY ON THE PROGRESS OF THE GAME, THE RULES, WHAT SONGS YOU LIKE, ETC., IS VERY WELCOME.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: Tric'hard Lenxheir on October 06, 2021, 11:58:07 AM
Round 2 Group 1

4-Dire Straits-Sultans Of Swing
3. Ozzy Osbourne-Crazy Train
2. Rush-Subdivisions
1. Spinners-Rubberband Man

Round 2 Group 2

4. Johnny Cash-Hurt
3. Toto-Africa
2. The Beatles-Let It Be
1. Antonio Vivaldi-Gloria In Excelsis Deo
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on October 06, 2021, 12:01:33 PM
If anyone would like additional stats on Round 1, I may be able to provide depending on how hard it would be to calculate them
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on October 06, 2021, 07:20:32 PM
GROUP 1
4 - Måneskin - Zitti E Buoni
3 - Dropkick Murphys - I'm Shipping Up To Boston
2 - Carbon Leaf - The Donnybrook Affair
1 - Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy Train
HM - Dire Straits - Sultans Of Swing

GROUP 2
4 - Bachman-Turner Overdrive - My Wheels Won't Turn
3 - Muse - Knights of Cydonia
2 - Black Eyed Peas - Let's Get It Started
1 - Toto - Africa
HM - Ed Welch and Robert Hartshorne, Trap Geek - Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends Main Theme Trap Remix
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: xpb on October 06, 2021, 09:42:22 PM
Group 1
4 Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy Train
3 Dire Straits - Sultans Of Swing
2 Soundgarden - Black Hole Sun
1 Måneskin - Zitti E Buoni

Group 2
4 Dave Brubeck Quartet - Take Five
3 B-52's - Roam
2 Black Eyed Peas - Let's Get It Started
1 Antonio Vivaldi - Gloria In Excelsis Deo
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: Placiej on October 07, 2021, 11:22:52 AM
GROUP 1
1-Carbon Leaf - The Donnybrook Affair
2-Dire Straits - Sultans Of Swing
4-Dropkick Murphys - I'm Shipping Up To Boston
3-Soundgarden - Black Hole Sun


GROUP 2

2-B-52's - Roam
3-Dave Brubeck Quartet - Take Five
4-Johnny Cash - Hurt
1-Toto - Africa
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: Glüc on October 07, 2021, 11:56:18 AM
Group 1: Very difficult this one. I would like to have given more points to Zitti e Buoni and also I would like to have given points to the two instrumental pieces.

Subdivisions - 4
Sultans of Swing - 3
Black Hole Sun - 2
Zitti e Buoni - 1

Group 2: Four points were very obvious for me here.

Knights of Cydonia - 4
Africa - 3
Hurt - 2
Let it Be - 1

Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: esbornatfiglheu on October 08, 2021, 01:45:25 PM
GROUP 1
2- Dire Straits - Sultans Of Swing
1- Dropkick Murphys - I'm Shipping Up To Boston
3- Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy Train
4- Spinners - Rubberband Man

GROUP 2
2- B-52's - Roam
4- Ed Welch and Robert Hartshorne, Trap Geek - Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends Main Theme Trap Remix
3- Muse - Knights of Cydonia
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on October 08, 2021, 11:17:11 PM
Voting for Groups 1 and 2 is closed.

GROUP 1
1. Sultans Of Swing - 14
2. Crazy Train - 11
3. I'm Shipping Up To Boston - 8
4. Black Hole Sun - 7
5. Subdivisions - 6 (one 2-point vote)

6. Zitti E Buoni - 6 (no 2-point votes)
7. Rubberband Man - 5
8. The Donnybrook Affair - 3
9. Man with a Harmonica - 0 (R4 last year)
10. Light Of The Seven - 0 (R3 last year)

Black Hole Sun makes it through R2 despite, as I pointed out earlier, being the lowest-PPV song to make it through R1. Meanwhile, two songs on my R1 heatseekers list, Zitti E Buoni and Rubberband Man, have been eliminated.

GROUP 2
1. Hurt - 10 (two 4-point votes)
2. Knights of Cydonia - 10 (one 4-point vote)
3. Africa - 8
4. Take Five - 7 (one 4-point vote)
5. Roam - 7 (no 4-point votes)

6. My Wheels Won't Turn - 4 (one 4-point vote, R3 last year)
7. Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends Main Theme Trap Remix - 4 (one 4-point vote, new this year)
8. Let's Get It Started - 4 (no 4-point votes)
9. Let it Be - 3
10. Gloria In Excelsis Deo - 2
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on October 08, 2021, 11:22:48 PM
TMT20 ROUND 2 - GROUPS 3 AND 4

Round 2 consists of ten groups of ten songs each. The top five songs in each group advance to Round 3.

Groups are drawn randomly in such a way that each group contains one 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th place song from Round 1, 2-3 songs eliminated in Round 3 last year, 0-1 songs eliminated in Round 4 last year, 1 song ranked between 11-20 last year, and 1 song ranked between 1-10 last year.

We will vote on groups two at a time (although you can vote on only one of the groups if you want). Each voting period will last three days (72 hours). Votes cast after that will not be accepted, with the exception that we will always keep going until we have at least three votes per group.

Give your top four songs 4, 3, 2, and 1 points, respectively. You must give points to exactly three or four songs (awarding the 1-point vote is optional).

GROUP 3
Beatles - Eleanor Rigby (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuS5NuXRb5Y%20class="link")
Bon Jovi - You Give Love a Bad Name (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrZHPOeOxQQ%20class="link")
David Bowie - Starman (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRcPA7Fzebw%20class="link")
Dead Kennedys - Holiday in Cambodia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KTsXHXMkJA%20class="link")
Gaelic Storm - Rum Runners (https://youtu.be/oKgYBAmViBU%20class="link")
Nightwish - Ghost Love Score (https://youtu.be/uN3yqMr3ffY%20class="link")
Queen - Killer Queen (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZBtPf7FOoM%20class="link")
Queen - Don't Stop Me Now (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgzGwKwLmgM%20class="link")
Reverend Peyton's Big Damn Band - Raise a Little Hell (https://youtu.be/yWCcLW08dsU%20class="link")
Whiskey Myers - On The River (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab3sWMXI12U%20class="link")

GROUP 4
Blue Öyster Cult - Burnin' For You (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oYsdAbypTk%20class="link")
Coldplay - Fix You (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4V3Mo61fJM%20class="link")
Eagles - Midnight Flyer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OphQ2pvTTb0%20class="link")
Gorillaz - Clint Eastwood (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V_xRb0x9aw%20class="link")
Jason Boland and the Stragglers - Devil Pays In Gold (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkH0ugzocVM%20class="link")
Johnny Cash - Ring of Fire (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It7107ELQvY%20class="link")
Louis Armstrong - What a Wonderful World (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3yCcXgbKrE%20class="link")
Radiohead - Paranoid Android (https://youtu.be/Lt8AfIeJOxw%20class="link")
Radiohead - Street Spirit (Fade Out) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCJblaUkkfc%20class="link")
Sarah Jarosz - Run Away (https://youtu.be/lKBN5ewEXdc%20class="link")

Tiebreakers:
- Number of voters giving 4 points
- Number of voters giving 3 points
- Number of voters giving 2 points
- Last year's result (1 > 2 > ... > 20 > Round 4 > Round 3 > Round 2 > other)
- PPV in Round 1 (if applicable)
- Random chance

Tactical voting refers to either giving more points than you normally would to a song because it would make the difference between it going through or getting eliminated, or giving fewer points than you normally would to a song because it might kick a song you like even more out of the competition. This is hard to prevent, but my very strong request would be to not do it. Give points to the songs you believe deserve to go through, regardless of how others are voting. Doing otherwise reduces the value of votes that came before you, which is unfair to them. Remember that it's not a competition between voters, but a collective effort to make a nice list of songs we like. Thanks.

I did my best with all the links but there is always a chance some are broken or have a wrong version or bad audio quality. If a link is broken or you have a suggestion for a better link, please contact me or post the link in the thread. Officially, we are not voting on the YouTube link, but on the listed Artist + Title.

COMMENTARY ON THE PROGRESS OF THE GAME, THE RULES, WHAT SONGS YOU LIKE, ETC., IS VERY WELCOME.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: Glüc on October 09, 2021, 06:16:11 AM
Group 3:
Ghost Love Score - 4
Eleanor Rigby - 3
Holiday in Cambodia - 2
Starman - 1


Group 4:
Paranoid Android - 4
Street Spirit - 3
Fix You - 2
Clint Eastwood - 1
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: Tric'hard Lenxheir on October 09, 2021, 07:06:53 AM
Group 3

4. Killer Queen-Queen
3. Don't Stop Me Now-Queen
2. Ghost Love Score-Nightwish
1. Starman-David Bowie

Group 4

4. Burnin' For You-Blue Oyster Cult
3. What A Wonderful World-Louis Armstrong
2. Ring Of Fire-Johnny Cash
1. Midnight Flyer-Eagles
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on October 09, 2021, 01:44:07 PM
GROUP 3
4 - Bon Jovi - You Give Love a Bad Name
3 - Gaelic Storm - Rum Runners
2 - Whiskey Myers - On The River
1 - Queen - Killer Queen

GROUP 4
4 - Eagles - Midnight Flyer
3 - Jason Boland and the Stragglers - Devil Pays In Gold
2 - Blue Öyster Cult - Burnin' For You
1 - Johnny Cash - Ring of Fire
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: xpb on October 11, 2021, 04:32:03 PM
G3
4 Queen - Don't Stop Me Now
3 Bowie - Starman
2 DKs - Holiday in Cambodia
1 Beatles - Eleanor Rigby

G4
4 - BOC - Burnin' For You
3 - Cash - Ring of Fire
2 - Armstrong - Wonderful World
1 - Jarocz - Run Away
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: Placiej on October 11, 2021, 05:26:21 PM
GROUP 3

3-Bon Jovi - You Give Love a Bad Name
2-Gaelic Storm - Rum Runners
1-Queen - Killer queen
4-Whiskey Myers - On The River

GROUP 4
1-Eagles - Midnight Flyer
2-Jason Boland and the Stragglers - Devil Pays In Gold
3-Johnny Cash - Ring of Fire
4-Sarah Jarosz - Run Away
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on October 12, 2021, 09:47:10 AM
Voting for Groups 3 and 4 is closed.

GROUP 3
1. You Give Love a Bad Name - 7 (#11 last year)
2. Don't Stop Me Now - 7 (R4 last year)
3. On The River - 6 (one 2-point vote, R3 last year)
4. Ghost Love Score - 6 (one 2-point vote, new this year)
5. Killer Queen - 6 (no 2-point votes)

6. Rum Runners - 5 (one 2-point vote)
7. Starman - 5 (no 2-point votes)
8. Eleanor Rigby - 4 (one 3-point vote)
9. Holiday in Cambodia - 4 (no 3-point votes)
10. Raise a Little Hell - 0

-This is likely the closest group so far. Only three points seperated first and ninth place.
-Starman, #9 last year, becomes the first member of last year's top 20 to be eliminated.

GROUP 4
1. Burnin' For You - 10
2. Ring of Fire - 9
3. Midnight Flyer - 6
4. Run Away - 5 (one 4-point vote)
5. What a Wonderful World - 5 (no 4-point votes, #17 last year)

6. Devil Pays In Gold - 5 (no 4-point votes, R3 last year)
7. Paranoid Android - 4
8. Street Spirit (Fade Out) - 3
9. Fix You - 2
10. Clint Eastwood - 1

-This is the most unfortunate result for a single voter that I can recall. Glüc was the only voter to give points to all four of the songs he gave points to, and none advanced.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on October 12, 2021, 09:51:53 AM
TMT20 ROUND 2 - GROUPS 5 AND 6

Round 2 consists of ten groups of ten songs each. The top five songs in each group advance to Round 3.

Groups are drawn randomly in such a way that each group contains one 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th place song from Round 1, 2-3 songs eliminated in Round 3 last year, 0-1 songs eliminated in Round 4 last year, 1 song ranked between 11-20 last year, and 1 song ranked between 1-10 last year.

We will vote on groups two at a time (although you can vote on only one of the groups if you want). Each voting period will last three days (72 hours). Votes cast after that will not be accepted, with the exception that we will always keep going until we have at least three votes per group.

Give your top four songs 4, 3, 2, and 1 points, respectively. You must give points to exactly three or four songs (awarding the 1-point vote is optional).

GROUP 5
Bob Segar - Old Time Rock and Roll (https://youtu.be/W1LsRShUPtY%20class="link")
Crosby, Stills and Nash - Southern Cross (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cBsnopTVmo%20class="link")
Frank Sinatra - My Way (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQzdAsjWGPg%20class="link")
Gorillaz - Feel Good Inc. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyHNuVaZJ-k%20class="link")
Het Goede Doel - België (Is er leven op Pluto...?) (https://youtu.be/02Jo_NHl2tw%20class="link")
Manchester Orchestra - The Alien (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71U_qjHLM58%20class="link")
Paul McCartney and Eric Clapton - While My Guitar Gently Weeps (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrTMc2i6Lzc%20class="link")
Queen and David Bowie - Under Pressure (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a01QQZyl-_I%20class="link")
Talking Heads - Once in a Lifetime (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGofoH9RDEA%20class="link")
The Who - Baba O'Riley (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2KRpRMSu4g%20class="link")

GROUP 6
Booker T. and the MG's - Green Onions (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oox9bJaGJ8%20class="link")
Dire Straits - Telegraph Road (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TTAXENxbM0%20class="link")
Earth, Wind and Fire - Boogie Wonderland (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=god7hAPv8f0%20class="link")
Foo Fighters - Walk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PkcfQtibmU%20class="link")
Kenny Rogers - The Gambler (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hx4gdlfamo%20class="link")
Manhattan Transfer - Birdland (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZHvsaVTrzQ%20class="link")
Men at Work - Down Under (https://youtube.com/watch?v=XfR9iY5y94s%20class="link")
Mighty Mighty Bosstones - The Impression That I Get (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIGMUAMevH0%20class="link")
Panic! At The Disco - High Hopes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPXIgEAGe4U%20class="link")
Tom Waits - God's Away on Business (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9mhsW5aWJM%20class="link")

Tiebreakers:
- Number of voters giving 4 points
- Number of voters giving 3 points
- Number of voters giving 2 points
- Last year's result (1 > 2 > ... > 20 > Round 4 > Round 3 > Round 2 > other)
- PPV in Round 1 (if applicable)
- Random chance

Tactical voting refers to either giving more points than you normally would to a song because it would make the difference between it going through or getting eliminated, or giving fewer points than you normally would to a song because it might kick a song you like even more out of the competition. This is hard to prevent, but my very strong request would be to not do it. Give points to the songs you believe deserve to go through, regardless of how others are voting. Doing otherwise reduces the value of votes that came before you, which is unfair to them. Remember that it's not a competition between voters, but a collective effort to make a nice list of songs we like. Thanks.

I did my best with all the links but there is always a chance some are broken or have a wrong version or bad audio quality. If a link is broken or you have a suggestion for a better link, please contact me or post the link in the thread. Officially, we are not voting on the YouTube link, but on the listed Artist + Title.

COMMENTARY ON THE PROGRESS OF THE GAME, THE RULES, WHAT SONGS YOU LIKE, ETC., IS VERY WELCOME.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: Glüc on October 12, 2021, 10:45:52 AM
Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on October 12, 2021, 09:47:10 AM

-This is the most unfortunate result for a single voter that I can recall. Glüc was the only voter to give points to all four of the songs he gave points to, and none advanced.
Sad
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: Tric'hard Lenxheir on October 12, 2021, 11:23:01 AM
Group 5

4. Old Time Rock n Roll-Bob Seger
3. Baba O'Riley-The Who
2. Under Pressure-David Bowie and Queen
1. My Way-Frank Sinatra

Group 6

4. The Gambler-Kenny Rogers
3. Down Under-Men At Work
2. Boogie Wonderland-Earth, Wind and Fire
1. Green Onions-Booker T. and The M.G.s
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: Glüc on October 12, 2021, 03:43:05 PM
Once in a Lifetime - 4
Feel Good Inc. - 3
The Alien - 2
While My Guitar Gently Weeps - 1

Telegraph Road - 4
Walk - 3
Down Under - 2
The Impression That I Get - 1
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: xpb on October 12, 2021, 06:36:51 PM
GROUP 5
4 Paul McCartney and Eric Clapton - While My Guitar Gently Weeps
3 Frank Sinatra - My Way
2 Talking Heads - Once in a Lifetime
1 The Who - Baba O'Riley

GROUP 6
4 Booker T. and the MG's - Green Onions
3 Tom Waits - God's Away on Business
2 Dire Straits - Telegraph Road
1 Men at Work - Down Under
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on October 12, 2021, 09:35:44 PM
GROUP 5
4 - Bob Segar - Old Time Rock and Roll
3 - The Who - Baba O'Riley
2 - Crosby, Stills and Nash - Southern Cross
1 - Queen and David Bowie - Under Pressure

GROUP 6
4 - Panic! At The Disco - High Hopes
3 - Foo Fighters - Walk
2 - Kenny Rogers - The Gambler
1 - Men at Work - Down Under
HM - Dire Straits - Telegraph Road
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: Placiej on October 13, 2021, 01:14:04 PM
GROUP 5
3-Bob Segar - Old Time Rock and Roll
4-Crosby, Stills and Nash - Southern Cross
1-Queen and David Bowie - Under Pressure
2-The Who - Baba O'Riley

GROUP 6

2-Dire Straits - Telegraph Road
3-Foo Fighters - Walk
1-Men at Work - Down Under
4-Mighty Mighty Bosstones - The Impression That I Get
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on October 15, 2021, 11:37:18 PM
Voting for Groups 5 and 6 is closed.

GROUP 5
1. Old Time Rock and Roll - 11
2. Baba O'Riley - 9
3. Once in a Lifetime - 6 (R3 last year)
4. Southern Cross - 6 (R2 last year)
5. While My Guitar Gently Weeps - 5

6. My Way - 4 (one 3-point vote)
7. Under Pressure - 4 (no 3-point votes)
8. Feel Good Inc. - 3
9. The Alien - 2
10. België (Is er leven op Pluto...?) - 0

-Under Pressure, #6 last year, becomes the highest-ranked song to be eliminated so far.

GROUP 6
1. Walk - 9
2. Telegraph Road - 8 (one 4-point vote)
3. Down Under - 8 (no 4-point votes)
4. The Gambler - 6
5. The Impression That I Get - 5 (R3 last year)

6. Green Onions - 5 (R2 last year)
7. High Hopes - 4
8. God's Away on Business - 3
9. Boogie Wonderland - 2
10. Birdland - 0

-I believe Down Under is the first song this year to get at least one point from every voter.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on October 17, 2021, 11:14:01 AM
TMT20 ROUND 2 - GROUPS 7 AND 8

Round 2 consists of ten groups of ten songs each. The top five songs in each group advance to Round 3.

Groups are drawn randomly in such a way that each group contains one 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th place song from Round 1, 2-3 songs eliminated in Round 3 last year, 0-1 songs eliminated in Round 4 last year, 1 song ranked between 11-20 last year, and 1 song ranked between 1-10 last year.

We will vote on groups two at a time (although you can vote on only one of the groups if you want). Each voting period will last three days (72 hours). Votes cast after that will not be accepted, with the exception that we will always keep going until we have at least three votes per group.

Give your top four songs 4, 3, 2, and 1 points, respectively. You must give points to exactly three or four songs (awarding the 1-point vote is optional).

GROUP 7
Aerosmith - Dream On (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54BCLYNkFKg%20class="link")
Blur - The Universal (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2jmBCfbgZc%20class="link")
Bon Jovi - Wanted Dead Or Alive (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRvCvsRp5ho%20class="link")
Charlie Daniels Band - The Devil Went Down to Georgia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6RUg-NkjY4%20class="link")
Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeMFqkcPYcg%20class="link")
Gaelic Storm - One More Day Above the Roses (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1E9O7niZAM%20class="link")
KISS - Black Diamond (https://youtu.be/LeUosbClag8%20class="link")
Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil (https://youtu.be/GgnClrx8N2k%20class="link")
Supertramp - School (https://youtu.be/H2ENrW65T8k%20class="link")
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - Requiem Mass in D minor (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPlhKP0nZII%20class="link")

GROUP 8
Aerosmith - Same old Song and Dance (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g_r_j_i_6U%20class="link")
Bee Gees - How Deep is Your Love (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpqqjU7u5Yc%20class="link")
Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young - Ohio (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68g76j9VBvM%20class="link")
Earth, Wind and Fire - September (https://youtu.be/Gs069dndIYk%20class="link")
Grimethorpe Colliery Band - Adagio (Concierto De Aranjuez) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsRys49BmWw%20class="link")
Ludwig von Beethoven - 9th Symphony in D minor, Op. 125, 4th movement (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChygZLpJDNE%20class="link")
Passion Pit - Take a Walk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZX6Q-Bj_xg%20class="link")
Queen - Innuendo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMAgetDMMLk%20class="link")
Reckless Kelly - Seven Nights in Eire (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQsf0ND4CNw%20class="link")
Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbmS3tQJ7Os%20class="link")

Tiebreakers:
- Number of voters giving 4 points
- Number of voters giving 3 points
- Number of voters giving 2 points
- Last year's result (1 > 2 > ... > 20 > Round 4 > Round 3 > Round 2 > other)
- PPV in Round 1 (if applicable)
- Random chance

Tactical voting refers to either giving more points than you normally would to a song because it would make the difference between it going through or getting eliminated, or giving fewer points than you normally would to a song because it might kick a song you like even more out of the competition. This is hard to prevent, but my very strong request would be to not do it. Give points to the songs you believe deserve to go through, regardless of how others are voting. Doing otherwise reduces the value of votes that came before you, which is unfair to them. Remember that it's not a competition between voters, but a collective effort to make a nice list of songs we like. Thanks.

I did my best with all the links but there is always a chance some are broken or have a wrong version or bad audio quality. If a link is broken or you have a suggestion for a better link, please contact me or post the link in the thread. Officially, we are not voting on the YouTube link, but on the listed Artist + Title.

COMMENTARY ON THE PROGRESS OF THE GAME, THE RULES, WHAT SONGS YOU LIKE, ETC., IS VERY WELCOME.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on October 17, 2021, 07:15:15 PM
GROUP 7
4 - Gaelic Storm - One More Day Above the Roses
3 - Charlie Daniels Band - The Devil Went Down to Georgia
2 - Bon Jovi - Wanted Dead Or Alive
1 - Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil
HM - Aerosmith - Dream On

GROUP 8
4 - Passion Pit - Take a Walk
3 - Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter
2 - Reckless Kelly - Seven Nights in Eire
1 - Aerosmith - Same old Song and Dance
HM - Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young - Ohio
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: Tric'hard Lenxheir on October 17, 2021, 09:10:24 PM
Group 7

4. Black Diamond-Kiss
3. Devil Went Down To Georgia-Charlie Daniels Band
2. Dream On-Aerosmith
1. Sympathy For The Devil-The Rolling Stones

Group 8

4. Innuendo-Queen
3. Same Old Song And Dance-Aerosmith
2. How Deep Is Your Love-Bee Gees
1. Gimme Shelter-The Rolling Stones
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: Placiej on October 18, 2021, 11:18:49 AM
GROUP 7
4 - Gaelic Storm - One More Day Above the Roses
3 - Charlie Daniels Band - The Devil Went Down to Georgia
2 - Bon Jovi - Wanted Dead Or Alive
1 - Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil


GROUP 8
1-Earth Wind and Fire - September
3 - Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter
4 - Reckless Kelly - Seven Nights in Eire
2- Aerosmith - Same old Song and Dance
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: xpb on October 18, 2021, 08:13:08 PM
GROUP 7
4 - Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)
3 - Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - Requiem Mass in D minor
2 - Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil
1 - Aerosmith - Dream On

GROUP 8
4 - Ludwig von Beethoven - 9th Symphony in D minor, Op. 125, 4th movement
3 - Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter
2 - Earth, Wind and Fire - September
1 - Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young - Ohio
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: Glüc on October 20, 2021, 09:28:01 AM
The Universal - 4
Sympathy for the Devil - 3
Sweet Dreams - 2
School - 1

Innuendo - 4
Gimme Shelter - 3
Adagio - 2
Ohio - 1
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on October 20, 2021, 04:59:04 PM
Voting for Groups 7 and 8 is closed.

GROUP 7
1. The Devil Went Down to Georgia - 9
2. One More Day Above the Roses - 8 (two 4-point votes)
3. Sympathy for the Devil - 8 (no 4-point votes)
4. Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This) - 6
5. The Universal - 4 (one 4-point vote, R2 last year)

6. Black Diamond - 4 (one 4-point vote, new this year)
7. Wanted Dead Or Alive - 4 (no 4-point votes)
8. Requiem Mass in D minor - 3
9. Dream On - 3
10. School - 1

GROUP 8
1. Gimme Shelter - 13
2. Innuendo - 8
3. Seven Nights in Eire - 6 (one 4-point vote)
4. Same old Song and Dance - 6 (no 4-point votes)
5. 9th Symphony in D minor, Op. 125, 4th movement - 4 (R2 last year)

6. Take a Walk - 4 (R1 last year)
7. September - 3
8. Adagio (Concierto De Aranjuez) - 2 (one 2-point vote, random chance)
9. How Deep is Your Love - 2 (one 2-point vote, random chance)
10. Ohio - 2 (no 2-point votes)

Gimme Shelter certainly appears ready to defend its #1 spot, getting 2.6 points per voter
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on October 20, 2021, 05:04:20 PM
TMT20 ROUND 2 - GROUPS 9 AND 10

Round 2 consists of ten groups of ten songs each. The top five songs in each group advance to Round 3.

Groups are drawn randomly in such a way that each group contains one 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th place song from Round 1, 2-3 songs eliminated in Round 3 last year, 0-1 songs eliminated in Round 4 last year, 1 song ranked between 11-20 last year, and 1 song ranked between 1-10 last year.

We will vote on groups two at a time (although you can vote on only one of the groups if you want). Each voting period will last three days (72 hours). Votes cast after that will not be accepted, with the exception that we will always keep going until we have at least three votes per group.

Give your top four songs 4, 3, 2, and 1 points, respectively. You must give points to exactly three or four songs (awarding the 1-point vote is optional).

GROUP 9
Alan Parsons Project - Sirius/Eye In The Sky (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEwaS-lLk0Y%20class="link")
Eagles - Lyin' Eyes (https://youtu.be/2dANDhfWU8g%20class="link")
Foghat - Slow Ride (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIjZE4kcg_Q%20class="link")
Frank Sinatra - Blue Moon (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw1ZC6sZjIY%20class="link")
Led Zeppelin - Kashmir (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfR_HWMzgyc%20class="link")
Looking Glass - Brandy (You're a Fine Girl) (https://youtu.be/DVx8L7a3MuE%20class="link")
Muse - Uprising (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8KQmps-Sog%20class="link")
Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ9rUzIMcZQ%20class="link")
The Weeknd - Blinding Lights (https://youtu.be/4NRXx6U8ABQ%20class="link")
Twenty One Pilots - Stressed Out (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXRviuL6vMY%20class="link")

GROUP 10
Buena Vista Social Club - Chan Chan (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5cELP06Mik%20class="link")
Clamavi De Profundus - The Song of Durin (https://youtu.be/uxfoa23skHg%20class="link")
Derek and the Dominos - Layla (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n92zksrhbc%20class="link")
Fleetwood Mac - The Chain (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDG2m5hN1vo%20class="link")
Jefferson Starship - Jane (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXmrMMYpQL4%20class="link")
Peter Gabriel - Solsbury Hill (https://youtu.be/_OO2PuGz-H8%20class="link")
Police - Message in a Bottle (https://youtube.com/watch?v=ObL3L6MRvN4%20class="link")
Rammstein - Haifisch (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GukNjYQZW8s%20class="link")
Rolling Stones - You Can't Always Get What You Want (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv9sDn_2XkI%20class="link")
Simon and Garfunkel - The Sound of Silence (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FB9GYkIT3E%20class="link")

Tiebreakers:
- Number of voters giving 4 points
- Number of voters giving 3 points
- Number of voters giving 2 points
- Last year's result (1 > 2 > ... > 20 > Round 4 > Round 3 > Round 2 > other)
- PPV in Round 1 (if applicable)
- Random chance

Tactical voting refers to either giving more points than you normally would to a song because it would make the difference between it going through or getting eliminated, or giving fewer points than you normally would to a song because it might kick a song you like even more out of the competition. This is hard to prevent, but my very strong request would be to not do it. Give points to the songs you believe deserve to go through, regardless of how others are voting. Doing otherwise reduces the value of votes that came before you, which is unfair to them. Remember that it's not a competition between voters, but a collective effort to make a nice list of songs we like. Thanks.

I did my best with all the links but there is always a chance some are broken or have a wrong version or bad audio quality. If a link is broken or you have a suggestion for a better link, please contact me or post the link in the thread. Officially, we are not voting on the YouTube link, but on the listed Artist + Title.

COMMENTARY ON THE PROGRESS OF THE GAME, THE RULES, WHAT SONGS YOU LIKE, ETC., IS VERY WELCOME.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: Glüc on October 20, 2021, 05:12:08 PM
9.
Bohemian Rhapsody - 4
Uprising - 3
Sirius/Eye in the Sky - 2
Kashmir - 1

10. Very strong group. Sad about leaving certain songs pointless.
Haifisch - 4
You Can't Always Get What You Want - 3
The Chain - 2
Solsbury Hill - 1
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on October 20, 2021, 05:14:24 PM
GROUP 9
4 - Muse - Uprising
3 - The Weeknd - Blinding Lights
2 - Foghat - Slow Ride
1 - Twenty One Pilots - Stressed Out

GROUP 10
4 - Rammstein - Haifisch
3 - Jefferson Starship - Jane
2 - Derek and the Dominos - Layla
1 - Fleetwood Mac - The Chain

Two strong groups.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: xpb on October 20, 2021, 09:58:56 PM
GROUP 9

4 - Eagles - Lyin' Eyes
3 - Alan Parsons Project - Sirius/Eye In The Sky
2 - Looking Glass - Brandy (You're a Fine Girl)
1 - Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody

GROUP 10

4 - Simon and Garfunkel - The Sound of Silence
3 - Peter Gabriel - Solsbury Hill
2 - Police - Message in a Bottle
1 - Rolling Stones - You Can't Always Get What You Want
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: Tric'hard Lenxheir on October 21, 2021, 07:30:59 AM
Group 9

4. Bohemian Rhapsody-Queen
3. Brandy (You're A Fine Girl)-Looking Glass
2. Sirius/Eye In The Sky-The Alan Parsons Project
1. Kashmir-Led Zeppelin

Group 10

4. Jane-Jefferson Starship
3. The Chain-Fleetwood Mac
2. Message In A Bottle-The Police
1. Song Of Durin-Clamavi De Profundus
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: Placiej on October 22, 2021, 06:01:26 PM
GROUP 9
4- Eagles - Lyin' Eyes
2-Foghat - Slow Ride
3- Led Zeppelin - Kashmir
1-Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody


GROUP 10
2-Fleetwood Mac - The Chain
3-Jefferson Starship - Jane
4-Police - Message in a Bottle
1-Rolling Stones - You Can't Always Get What You Want
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on October 23, 2021, 10:22:11 PM
Voting for Groups 9 and 10 is closed.

GROUP 9
1. Bohemian Rhapsody - 10
2. Lyin' Eyes - 8
3. Uprising - 7 (one 4-point vote)
4. Sirius/Eye In The Sky - 7 (no 4-point votes)
5. Brandy (You're a Fine Girl) - 5 (one 2-point vote)

6. Kashmir - 5 (no 2-point votes)
7. Slow Ride - 4
8. Blinding Lights - 3
9. Stressed Out - 1
10. Blue Moon - 0

GROUP 10
1. Jane - 10
2. Haifisch - 8 (two 4-point votes)
3. Message in a Bottle - 8 (one 4-point vote)
4. The Chain - 8 (no 4-point votes)
5. You Can't Always Get What You Want - 5

6. The Sound of Silence - 4 (one 4-point vote)
7. Solsbury Hill - 4 (no 4-point votes)
8. Layla - 2
9. The Song of Durin - 1
10. Chan Chan - 0
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on October 23, 2021, 10:36:34 PM
Of the 50 songs advancing to round 3:
-15 (of 20 starting in this year's contest) were in the Top 20 last year
-3 (of 5) were eliminated in R4 last year
-12 (of 25) were eliminated in R3 last year
-10 (of 50) were eliminated in R2 last year
-1 (of 2) was eliminated in R1 last year
-9 (of 48) are new this year
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 2 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on October 23, 2021, 10:43:41 PM
TOP ROUND 2 SONGS BY PPV
1. Gimme Shelter - 2.6*
2. Sultans Of Swing - 2.333*
3. Old Time Rock and Roll - 2.2**
4. Burnin' For You - 2
4. Jane - 2
4. Bohemian Rhapsody - 2*
7. Crazy Train - 1.833*
8. The Devil Went Down to Georgia - 1.8*
8. Walk - 1.8
8. Ring of Fire - 1.8*
8. Baba O'Riley - 1.8

*Top 20 last year
**New this year
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 3 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on October 23, 2021, 11:11:42 PM
Having already narrowed the field of 150 songs down to 50, we are coming into the home stretch of the 2021 TMT20. Here is a handy flowchart of how the remainder of the rounds are going to work:
(https://i.imgur.com/iw7uu6K.png)
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 3 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on October 23, 2021, 11:17:16 PM
TMT20 ROUND 3 - GROUPS 1, 2, AND 3

Round 3 consists of five groups of ten songs each. The top five songs from each group advance according to the flowchart above. Groups are drawn randomly in such a way that each group contains two 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th place songs from Round 2.

We will vote on groups 1, 2, and 3 and then groups 4 and 5. Each voting period will last three days (72 hours). Votes cast after that will not be accepted, with the exception that we will always keep going until we have at least three votes per group.

Give your top four songs 4, 3, 2, and 1 points, respectively. You must give points to exactly three or four songs (awarding the 1-point vote is optional).

GROUP 1
Blue Öyster Cult - Burnin' For You (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oYsdAbypTk%20class="link")
Dave Brubeck Quartet - Take Five (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHdU5sHigYQ%20class="link")
Eagles - Lyin' Eyes (https://youtu.be/2dANDhfWU8g%20class="link")
Eagles - Midnight Flyer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OphQ2pvTTb0%20class="link")
Louis Armstrong - What a Wonderful World (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3yCcXgbKrE%20class="link")
Ludwig von Beethoven - 9th Symphony in D minor, Op. 125, 4th movement (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChygZLpJDNE%20class="link")
Nightwish - Ghost Love Score (https://youtu.be/uN3yqMr3ffY%20class="link")
Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ9rUzIMcZQ%20class="link")
Queen - Don't Stop Me Now (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgzGwKwLmgM%20class="link")
Whiskey Myers - On The River (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab3sWMXI12U%20class="link")

GROUP 2
Aerosmith - Same old Song and Dance (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g_r_j_i_6U%20class="link")
B-52's - Roam (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNwC0sp-uA4%20class="link")
Bob Segar - Old Time Rock and Roll (https://youtu.be/W1LsRShUPtY%20class="link")
Dire Straits - Sultans Of Swing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIufLA7Bx2Q%20class="link")
Dire Straits - Telegraph Road (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TTAXENxbM0%20class="link")
Kenny Rogers - The Gambler (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hx4gdlfamo%20class="link")
Rammstein - Haifisch (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GukNjYQZW8s%20class="link")
Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil (https://youtu.be/GgnClrx8N2k%20class="link")
Rush - Subdivisions (https://youtu.be/EYYdQB0mkEU%20class="link")
Toto - Africa (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTQbiNvZqaY%20class="link")

GROUP 3
Crosby, Stills and Nash - Southern Cross (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cBsnopTVmo%20class="link")
Fleetwood Mac - The Chain (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDG2m5hN1vo%20class="link")
Gaelic Storm - One More Day Above the Roses (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1E9O7niZAM%20class="link")
Jefferson Starship - Jane (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXmrMMYpQL4%20class="link")
Johnny Cash - Hurt (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AHCfZTRGiI%20class="link")
Men at Work - Down Under (https://youtube.com/watch?v=XfR9iY5y94s%20class="link")
Paul McCartney and Eric Clapton - While My Guitar Gently Weeps (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrTMc2i6Lzc%20class="link")
Queen - Killer Queen (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZBtPf7FOoM%20class="link")
Talking Heads - Once in a Lifetime (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGofoH9RDEA%20class="link")
The Who - Baba O'Riley (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2KRpRMSu4g%20class="link")

Tiebreakers:
- Number of voters giving 4 points
- Number of voters giving 3 points
- Number of voters giving 2 points
- PPV in Round 2
- Last year's result (1 > 2 > ... > 20 > Round 4 > Round 3 > Round 2 > other)
- PPV in Round 1 (if applicable)
- Random chance

Tactical voting refers to either giving more points than you normally would to a song because it would make the difference between it going through or getting eliminated, or giving fewer points than you normally would to a song because it might kick a song you like even more out of the competition. This is hard to prevent, but my very strong request would be to not do it. Give points to the songs you believe deserve to go through, regardless of how others are voting. Doing otherwise reduces the value of votes that came before you, which is unfair to them. Remember that it's not a competition between voters, but a collective effort to make a nice list of songs we like. Thanks.

I did my best with all the links but there is always a chance some are broken or have a wrong version or bad audio quality. If a link is broken or you have a suggestion for a better link, please contact me or post the link in the thread. Officially, we are not voting on the YouTube link, but on the listed Artist + Title.

COMMENTARY ON THE PROGRESS OF THE GAME, THE RULES, WHAT SONGS YOU LIKE, ETC., IS VERY WELCOME.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 3 Voting]
Post by: xpb on October 24, 2021, 06:42:56 AM
GROUP 1
4 - Ludwig von Beethoven - 9th Symphony in D minor, Op. 125, 4th movement (saw a friend perform this at the Aspen Music Festival this past summer, one of the initial concert events that I was able to attend as pandemic restrictions began to ease.  Also has a great element in the Neal Stephenson novel "Seveneves")
3 - Dave Brubeck Quartet - Take Five
2 - Louis Armstrong - What a Wonderful World
1 - Blue Öyster Cult - Burnin' For You

GROUP 2
4 - B-52's - Roam
3 - Dire Straits - Telegraph Road
2 - Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil
1 - Dire Straits - Sultans Of Swing

GROUP 3
4 - Paul McCartney and Eric Clapton - While My Guitar Gently Weeps
3 - Talking Heads - Once in a Lifetime
2 - Men at Work - Down Under
1 - The Who - Baba O'Riley
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 3 Voting]
Post by: Glüc on October 24, 2021, 05:03:36 PM
Great flowchart!

4 Bohemian Rhapsody
3 Ghost Love Score
2 On the River
1 9th Symphony

4 Haifisch
3 Telegraph Road
2 Sympathy for the Devil
1 Subdivisions

4 Once in a Lifetime
3 The Chain
2 While My Guitar Gently Weeps
1 Down Under
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 3 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on October 24, 2021, 09:55:36 PM
Lots of good songs I couldn't give points to. I guess it's a good thing that I think all the groups are strong at this stage in the contest.

GROUP 1
4 - Whiskey Myers - On The River
3 - Eagles - Midnight Flyer
2 - Queen - Don't Stop Me Now
1 - Blue Öyster Cult - Burnin' For You

GROUP 2
4 - Rammstein - Haifisch
3 - Bob Segar - Old Time Rock and Roll
2 - Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil
1 - Aerosmith - Same old Song and Dance

GROUP 3
4 - Gaelic Storm - One More Day Above the Roses
3 - Jefferson Starship - Jane
2 - Fleetwood Mac - The Chain
1 - The Who - Baba O'Riley
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 3 Voting]
Post by: Tric'hard Lenxheir on October 25, 2021, 10:35:24 AM
Group 1

4. What A Wonderful World-Louis Armstrong
3. Burnin' For You-Blue Oyster Cult
2. Bohemian Rhapsody-Queen
1. Don't Stop Me Now-Queen

Group 2

4. Old Time Rock 'n' Roll-Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band
3. Sultans Of Swing-Dire Straits
2. Subdivisions-Rush
1. Africa-Toto

Group 3

4. Killer Queen-Queen
3. Hurt-Johnny Cash
2. Jane-Jefferson Starship
1. Down Under-Men At Work
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 3 Voting]
Post by: Placiej on October 26, 2021, 09:00:36 AM
GROUP 1
1 Dave Brubeck Quartet - Take Five
3 Eagles - Lyin' Eyes
2 Eagles - Midnight Flyer
4 Whiskey Myers - On The River

GROUP 2
3 Aerosmith - Same old Song and Dance
4 B-52's - Roam
2 Dire Straits - Sultans Of Swing
1 Toto - Africa

GROUP 3
4 Crosby, Stills and Nash - Southern Cross
3 Fleetwood Mac - The Chain
2 Gaelic Storm - One More Day Above the Roses
1 Johnny Cash - Hurt
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 3 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on October 26, 2021, 10:55:26 PM
Voting on groups 1, 2, and 3 is closed.

GROUP 1
1. On The River - 10
2. Bohemian Rhapsody - 6 (Rd 2 PPV = 2.000)


3. What a Wonderful World - 6 (Rd 2 PPV = 1.000)

4. 9th Symphony in D minor, Op. 125, 4th movement - 5 (one 4-point vote)
5. Midnight Flyer - 5 (no 4-point votes, one 2-point vote)

6. Burnin' For You - 5 (no 4-point votes, no 2-point votes)
7. Take Five - 4
8. Lyin' Eyes - 3 (one 3-point vote, Rd 2 PPV = 1.600)
9. Ghost Love Score - 3 (one 3-point vote, Rd 2 PPV = 1.200)
10. Don't Stop Me Now - 3 (no 3-point votes)

-Both new nominations in this group were elimated
-Don't Stop Me Now received the most points of any last-placed song so far

GROUP 2
1. Haifisch - 8 (Rd 2 PPV = 1.600)
2. Roam - 8 (Rd 2 PPV = 1.167)

3. Old Time Rock and Roll - 7

4. Telegraph Road - 6 (two 3-point votes)
5. Sultans Of Swing - 6 (one 3-point vote)


6. Sympathy for the Devil - 6 (no 3-point votes)
7. Same old Song and Dance - 4
8. Subdivisions - 3
9. Africa - 2
10. The Gambler - 0

-Old Time Rock and Roll becomes the first new nomination to clinch a spot in the Top 20

GROUP 3
1. The Chain - 8
2. Once in a Lifetime - 7

3. One More Day Above the Roses - 6 (Rd 2 PPV = 1.600)

4. While My Guitar Gently Weeps - 6 (Rd 2 PPV = 1.000)
5. Jane - 5


6. Killer Queen - 4 (one 4-point vote, Rd 1 PPV = 1.400)
7. Southern Cross - 4 (one 4-point vote, Rd 1 PPV = 0.833)
8. Hurt - 4 (no 4-point votes, one 3-point vote)
9. Down Under - 4 (no 4-point votes, no 3-point votes)
10. Baba O'Riley - 2
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 3 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on October 26, 2021, 10:59:42 PM
TMT20 ROUND 3 - GROUPS 4 AND 5

Round 3 consists of five groups of ten songs each. The top five songs from each group advance according to the flowchart above. Groups are drawn randomly in such a way that each group contains two 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th place songs from Round 2.

We will vote on groups 1, 2, and 3 and then groups 4 and 5. Each voting period will last three days (72 hours). Votes cast after that will not be accepted, with the exception that we will always keep going until we have at least three votes per group.

Give your top four songs 4, 3, 2, and 1 points, respectively. You must give points to exactly three or four songs (awarding the 1-point vote is optional).

GROUP 4
Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeMFqkcPYcg%20class="link")
Foo Fighters - Walk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PkcfQtibmU%20class="link")
Johnny Cash - Ring of Fire (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It7107ELQvY%20class="link")
Looking Glass - Brandy (You're a Fine Girl) (https://youtu.be/DVx8L7a3MuE%20class="link")
Muse - Knights of Cydonia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3Yc3HhSl1Q%20class="link")
Muse - Uprising (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8KQmps-Sog%20class="link")
Reckless Kelly - Seven Nights in Eire (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQsf0ND4CNw%20class="link")
Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbmS3tQJ7Os%20class="link")
Rolling Stones - You Can't Always Get What You Want (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv9sDn_2XkI%20class="link")
Sarah Jarosz - Run Away (https://youtu.be/lKBN5ewEXdc%20class="link")

GROUP 5
Alan Parsons Project - Sirius/Eye In The Sky (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEwaS-lLk0Y%20class="link")
Blur - The Universal (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2jmBCfbgZc%20class="link")
Bon Jovi - You Give Love a Bad Name (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrZHPOeOxQQ%20class="link")
Charlie Daniels Band - The Devil Went Down to Georgia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6RUg-NkjY4%20class="link")
Dropkick Murphys - I'm Shipping Up To Boston (https://youtu.be/pMgHX2dhVlE%20class="link")
Mighty Mighty Bosstones - The Impression That I Get (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIGMUAMevH0%20class="link")
Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy Train (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2VZjE6JdHg%20class="link")
Police - Message in a Bottle (https://youtube.com/watch?v=ObL3L6MRvN4%20class="link")
Queen - Innuendo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMAgetDMMLk%20class="link")
Soundgarden - Black Hole Sun (https://youtu.be/3mbBbFH9fAg%20class="link")

Tiebreakers:
- Number of voters giving 4 points
- Number of voters giving 3 points
- Number of voters giving 2 points
- PPV in Round 2
- Last year's result (1 > 2 > ... > 20 > Round 4 > Round 3 > Round 2 > other)
- PPV in Round 1 (if applicable)
- Random chance

Tactical voting refers to either giving more points than you normally would to a song because it would make the difference between it going through or getting eliminated, or giving fewer points than you normally would to a song because it might kick a song you like even more out of the competition. This is hard to prevent, but my very strong request would be to not do it. Give points to the songs you believe deserve to go through, regardless of how others are voting. Doing otherwise reduces the value of votes that came before you, which is unfair to them. Remember that it's not a competition between voters, but a collective effort to make a nice list of songs we like. Thanks.

I did my best with all the links but there is always a chance some are broken or have a wrong version or bad audio quality. If a link is broken or you have a suggestion for a better link, please contact me or post the link in the thread. Officially, we are not voting on the YouTube link, but on the listed Artist + Title.

COMMENTARY ON THE PROGRESS OF THE GAME, THE RULES, WHAT SONGS YOU LIKE, ETC., IS VERY WELCOME.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 3 Voting]
Post by: Tric'hard Lenxheir on October 27, 2021, 08:58:11 AM
Group 4

4. Brandy (You're A Fine Girl)-Looking Glass
3. Ring Of Fire-Johnny Cash
2. Sweet Dreams (Are Made Of This)-Eurythmics
1. You Can't Always Get What You Want-Rolling Stones

Group 5

4. Devil Went Down To Georgia-Charlie Daniels Band
3. Crazy Train-Ozzy Osbourne
2. Sirius/Eye In The Sky-Alan Parsons Project
1. Innuendo-Queen
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 3 Voting]
Post by: Glüc on October 27, 2021, 09:08:26 AM
Oof, this group... Don't even have points left for Uprising.

Knights of Cydonia - 4
Gimme Shelter - 3
You Can't Always Get What You Want - 2
Sweet Dreams - 1

The Universal - 4
Innuendo - 3
Black Hole Sun - 2
The Impression That I Get - 1
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 3 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on October 27, 2021, 09:03:56 PM
GROUP 4
4 - Muse - Uprising
3 - Foo Fighters - Walk
2 - Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter
1 - Reckless Kelly - Seven Nights in Eire

GROUP 5
4 - Bon Jovi - You Give Love a Bad Name
3 - Dropkick Murphys - I'm Shipping Up To Boston
2 - Charlie Daniels Band - The Devil Went Down to Georgia
1 - Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy Train
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 3 Voting]
Post by: Placiej on October 28, 2021, 07:28:48 AM
GROUP 4
2 Johnny Cash - Ring of Fire
4 Reckless Kelly - Seven Nights in Eire
1 Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter
3 Sarah Jarosz - Run Away

GROUP 5
1 Bon Jovi - You Give Love a Bad Name
3 Charlie Daniels Band - The Devil Went Down to Georgia
4 Dropkick Murphys - I'm Shipping Up To Boston
2 Mighty Mighty Bosstones - The Impression That I Get



Soundgarden - Black Hole Sun
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 3 Voting]
Post by: xpb on October 30, 2021, 01:09:40 PM
GROUP 4
4 - Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)
3 - Looking Glass - Brandy (You're a Fine Girl)
2 - Johnny Cash - Ring of Fire
1 - Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter

GROUP 5
4 - Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy Train
3 - Alan Parsons Project - Sirius/Eye In The Sky
2 - Police - Message in a Bottle
1 - Soundgarden - Black Hole Sun
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 3 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on October 30, 2021, 03:04:45 PM
Quote from: xpb on October 30, 2021, 01:09:40 PM
GROUP 4
4 - Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)
3 - Looking Glass - Brandy (You're a Fine Girl)
2 - Johnny Cash - Ring of Fire
1 - Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter

GROUP 5
4 - Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy Train
3 - Alan Parsons Project - Sirius/Eye In The Sky
2 - Police - Message in a Bottle
1 - Soundgarden - Black Hole Sun
Unfortunately this vote was cast after the deadline so I can't count it
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 3 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on October 30, 2021, 03:11:00 PM
Voting on Groups 4 and 5 is closed.

GROUP 4
1. Gimme Shelter - 6
2. Seven Nights in Eire - 5 (one 4-point vote)

3. Ring of Fire - 5 (no 4-point votes)

4. Knights of Cydonia - 4 (Rd 2 PPV = 1.667)
5. Uprising - 4 (Rd 2 PPV = 1.400)


6. Brandy (You're a Fine Girl) - 4 (Rd 2 PPV = 1.000)
7. Walk - 3 (one 3-point vote, Rd 2 PPV = 1.800)
8. Run Away - 3 (one 3-point vote, Rd 2 PPV = 1.000)
9. Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This) - 3 (no 3-point votes, Rd 2 PPV = 1.200)
10. You Can't Always Get What You Want - 3 (no 3-point votes, Rd 2 PPV = 1.000)

GROUP 5
1. The Devil Went Down to Georgia - 9
2. I'm Shipping Up To Boston - 7

3. You Give Love a Bad Name - 5

4. The Universal - 4 (one 4-point vote)
5. Crazy Train - 4 (no 4-point votes, Rd 2 PPV = 1.833)


6. Innuendo - 4 (no 4-point votes, Rd 2 PPV = 1.600)
7. The Impression That I Get - 3
8. Sirius/Eye In The Sky - 2 (Rd 2 PPV = 1.400)
9. Black Hole Sun - 2 (Rd 2 PPV = 1.167)
10. Message in a Bottle - 0
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 3 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on October 30, 2021, 03:18:50 PM
In Round 3, five of the remaining fifteen songs in last year's top 20 were eliminated. Seven of the nine remaining new songs were eliminated, while the other two (Old Time Rock and Roll and I'm Shipping Up to Boston) have advanced to the final.

Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 4 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on October 30, 2021, 03:28:39 PM
TMT20 ROUND 4
Round 4 consists of one group of ten songs (the 4th and 5th place songs from each of the five groups of Round 3). The top five songs advance to Round 5 and earn a spot in the Top 20.

The voting period will last three days (72 hours). Votes cast after that will not be accepted, with the exception that we will always keep going until we have at least three votes per group.

Give your top four songs 4, 3, 2, and 1 points, respectively. You must give points to exactly three or four songs (awarding the 1-point vote is optional).

Blur - The Universal (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2jmBCfbgZc%20class="link")
Dire Straits - Telegraph Road (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TTAXENxbM0%20class="link")
Dire Straits - Sultans Of Swing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIufLA7Bx2Q%20class="link")
Eagles - Midnight Flyer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OphQ2pvTTb0%20class="link")
Jefferson Starship - Jane (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXmrMMYpQL4%20class="link")
Ludwig von Beethoven - 9th Symphony in D minor, Op. 125, 4th movement (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChygZLpJDNE%20class="link")
Muse - Knights of Cydonia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3Yc3HhSl1Q%20class="link")
Muse - Uprising (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8KQmps-Sog%20class="link")
Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy Train (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2VZjE6JdHg%20class="link")
Paul McCartney and Eric Clapton - While My Guitar Gently Weeps (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrTMc2i6Lzc%20class="link")

Tiebreakers:
- Number of voters giving 4 points
- Number of voters giving 3 points
- Number of voters giving 2 points
- PPV in Round 3
- PPV in Round 2
- Last year's result (1 > 2 > ... > 20 > Round 4 > Round 3 > Round 2 > other)
- PPV in Round 1 (if applicable)
- Random chance

Tactical voting refers to either giving more points than you normally would to a song because it would make the difference between it going through or getting eliminated, or giving fewer points than you normally would to a song because it might kick a song you like even more out of the competition. This is hard to prevent, but my very strong request would be to not do it. Give points to the songs you believe deserve to go through, regardless of how others are voting. Doing otherwise reduces the value of votes that came before you, which is unfair to them. Remember that it's not a competition between voters, but a collective effort to make a nice list of songs we like. Thanks.

I did my best with all the links but there is always a chance some are broken or have a wrong version or bad audio quality. If a link is broken or you have a suggestion for a better link, please contact me or post the link in the thread. Officially, we are not voting on the YouTube link, but on the listed Artist + Title.

COMMENTARY ON THE PROGRESS OF THE GAME, THE RULES, WHAT SONGS YOU LIKE, ETC., IS VERY WELCOME.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 4 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on October 30, 2021, 03:33:02 PM
4 - Muse - Uprising
3 - Jefferson Starship - Jane
2 - Eagles - Midnight Flyer
1 - Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy Train
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 4 Voting]
Post by: Glüc on October 30, 2021, 05:12:40 PM
Knights of Cydonia - 4
Telegraph Road - 3
The Universal - 2
Sultans of Swing - 1

Again a very strong group. Also, again, Uprising just one place short...
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 3 Voting]
Post by: xpb on October 30, 2021, 08:24:09 PM
Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on October 30, 2021, 03:04:45 PM
Quote from: xpb on October 30, 2021, 01:09:40 PM
GROUP 4
4 - Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)
3 - Looking Glass - Brandy (You're a Fine Girl)
2 - Johnny Cash - Ring of Fire
1 - Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter

GROUP 5
4 - Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy Train
3 - Alan Parsons Project - Sirius/Eye In The Sky
2 - Police - Message in a Bottle
1 - Soundgarden - Black Hole Sun
Unfortunately this vote was cast after the deadline so I can't count it
Darn happened for a second time when real life got in the way
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 4 Voting]
Post by: xpb on October 30, 2021, 08:26:24 PM
4 - Ludwig von Beethoven - 9th Symphony in D minor, Op. 125, 4th movement
3 - Paul McCartney and Eric Clapton - While My Guitar Gently Weeps
2 - Dire Straits - Telegraph Road
1 - Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy Train
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 4 Voting]
Post by: Tric'hard Lenxheir on November 01, 2021, 10:29:41 AM
4. Sultans Of Swing-Dire Straits
3. Crazy Train-Ozzy Osbourne
2. Jane-Jefferson Starship
1. Midnight Flyer-Eagles
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 4 Voting]
Post by: Placiej on November 01, 2021, 12:45:10 PM
2 Dire Straits - Sultans Of Swing
1 Eagles - Midnight Flyer
3 Jefferson Starship - Jane
4 Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy Train
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 4 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on November 02, 2021, 04:09:30 PM
Voting on Round 4 is closed.

1. Crazy Train - 9
2. Jane - 8
3. Sultans Of Swing - 7
4. Telegraph Road - 5
5. Knights of Cydonia - 4 (one 4-point vote, Rd 2 PPV = 1.667)

6. Uprising - 4 (one 4-point vote, Rd 2 PPV = 1.400)
7. 9th Symphony in D minor, Op. 125, 4th movement - 4 (one 4-point vote, Rd 2 PPV = 0.800)
8. Midnight Flyer - 4 (no 4-point votes)
9. While My Guitar Gently Weeps - 3
10. The Universal - 2

A difference in Rd 2 PPV of 0.267 sends Knights of Cydonia to the Top 20 and leaves Uprising out.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 4 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on November 02, 2021, 04:24:43 PM
We now know what songs will be in this year's Top 20.

9 were in the Top 20 last year
Gimme Shelter
Bohemian Rhapsody
Ring of Fire
Telegraph Road
The Devil Went Down to Georgia
Sultans Of Swing
You Give Love a Bad Name
What a Wonderful World
Crazy Train

1 was elimated in R4 last year
Knights of Cydonia

6 were elimated in R3 last year
Roam*
One More Day Above the Roses
Haifisch*
Seven Nights in Eire
Once in a Lifetime
On The River

2 were elimated in R2 last year
The Chain
Jane

2 are new this year
Old Time Rock and Roll
I'm Shipping Up To Boston

*In addition to the new nominations, Roam and Haifisch have never been in the Top 20 before.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 4 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on November 02, 2021, 04:28:19 PM
TMT20 ROUND 5
Round 5 consists of one group of ten songs (the 3rd place song from each of the five groups of Round 3 and the 6th-10th place songs from Round 4). The top five songs advance to the Final. The bottom five receive Ranks #16-#20 of the 2021 TMT20, respectively.

The voting period will last three days (72 hours). Votes cast after that will not be accepted, with the exception that we will always keep going until we have at least three votes per group.

Give your top four songs 4, 3, 2, and 1 points, respectively. You must give points to exactly three or four songs (awarding the 1-point vote is optional).

Bob Segar - Old Time Rock and Roll (https://youtu.be/W1LsRShUPtY%20class="link")
Bon Jovi - You Give Love a Bad Name (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrZHPOeOxQQ%20class="link")
Dire Straits - Sultans Of Swing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIufLA7Bx2Q%20class="link")
Dire Straits - Telegraph Road (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TTAXENxbM0%20class="link")
Gaelic Storm - One More Day Above the Roses (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1E9O7niZAM%20class="link")
Jefferson Starship - Jane (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXmrMMYpQL4%20class="link")
Johnny Cash - Ring of Fire (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It7107ELQvY%20class="link")
Louis Armstrong - What a Wonderful World (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3yCcXgbKrE%20class="link")
Muse - Knights of Cydonia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3Yc3HhSl1Q%20class="link")
Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy Train (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2VZjE6JdHg%20class="link")

Tiebreakers:
- Number of voters giving 4 points
- Number of voters giving 3 points
- Number of voters giving 2 points
- PPV in Round 4 (if applicable)
- PPV in Round 3
- PPV in Round 2
- Last year's result (1 > 2 > ... > 20 > Round 4 > Round 3 > Round 2 > other)
- PPV in Round 1 (if applicable)
- Random chance

Tactical voting refers to either giving more points than you normally would to a song because it would make the difference between it going through or getting eliminated, or giving fewer points than you normally would to a song because it might kick a song you like even more out of the competition. This is hard to prevent, but my very strong request would be to not do it. Give points to the songs you believe deserve to go through, regardless of how others are voting. Doing otherwise reduces the value of votes that came before you, which is unfair to them. Remember that it's not a competition between voters, but a collective effort to make a nice list of songs we like. Thanks.

I did my best with all the links but there is always a chance some are broken or have a wrong version or bad audio quality. If a link is broken or you have a suggestion for a better link, please contact me or post the link in the thread. Officially, we are not voting on the YouTube link, but on the listed Artist + Title.

COMMENTARY ON THE PROGRESS OF THE GAME, THE RULES, WHAT SONGS YOU LIKE, ETC., IS VERY WELCOME.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 5 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on November 02, 2021, 04:43:15 PM
4 - Bon Jovi - You Give Love a Bad Name
3 - Gaelic Storm - One More Day Above the Roses

Both of those have at one point been my favorite song.

2 - Jefferson Starship - Jane
1 - Bob Segar - Old Time Rock and Roll
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 5 Voting]
Post by: Glüc on November 02, 2021, 05:04:57 PM
Knights of Cydonia - 4
Telegraph Road - 3
Sultans of Swing - 2
Crazy Train - 1

Imho the songs that came from round 4 are a lot stronger than the songs that made it into round 5 directly. Overall the top 20 ended up pretty strong this year, despite the usual overdose of classic rock (which is partly my own fault).
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 5 Voting]
Post by: xpb on November 03, 2021, 06:21:30 PM
4 - Dire Straits - Telegraph Road
3 - Louis Armstrong - What a Wonderful World
2 - Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy Train
1 - Dire Straits - Sultans Of Swing
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 5 Voting]
Post by: Tric'hard Lenxheir on November 03, 2021, 08:58:53 PM
4. Old Time Rock And Roll-Bob Seger
3. Sultans Of Swing-Dire Straits
2. What A Wonderful World-Louis Armstrong
1. Crazy Train-Ozzy Osbourne
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 5 Voting]
Post by: Tric'hard Lenxheir on November 03, 2021, 09:00:36 PM
I hate to say it because it may reflect on my intelligence but i am having major problems keeping track of which round is the current round from day to day...it seems very confusing to have multiple rounds with the same numbers to me.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 5 Voting]
Post by: Placiej on November 04, 2021, 01:46:12 PM
2-Bon Jovi - You Give Love a Bad Name
3-Gaelic Storm - One More Day Above the Roses
1-Jefferson Starship - Jane
4-Johnny Cash - Ring of Fire
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Round 5 Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on November 05, 2021, 09:50:13 PM
Voting on Round 5 is closed. The following songs are through to the Final:

Telegraph Road
You Give Love a Bad Name
One More Day Above the Roses
Sultans Of Swing
Old Time Rock and Roll

The positions of the other songs will be announced in the coming days.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on November 05, 2021, 09:56:18 PM
FINAL TMT20 VOTING
The final round consists of one group of fifteen songs (the 1st and 2nd place song from each group in Round 3 and the top five songs from Round 5).

The voting period will last one week. Votes cast after that will not be accepted, with the exception that we will always keep going until we have at least three votes per group.

DO NOT POST YOUR VOTE HERE. SEND ME YOUR VOTE IN A PRIVATE MESSAGE.

Give your top ten songs 12, 10, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 points, respectively. You must give points to exactly ten songs.

B-52's - Roam (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNwC0sp-uA4%20class="link")
Bob Segar - Old Time Rock and Roll (https://youtu.be/W1LsRShUPtY%20class="link")
Bon Jovi - You Give Love a Bad Name (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrZHPOeOxQQ%20class="link")
Charlie Daniels Band - The Devil Went Down to Georgia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6RUg-NkjY4%20class="link")
Dire Straits - Telegraph Road (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TTAXENxbM0%20class="link")
Dire Straits - Sultans Of Swing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIufLA7Bx2Q%20class="link")
Dropkick Murphys - I'm Shipping Up To Boston (https://youtu.be/pMgHX2dhVlE%20class="link")
Fleetwood Mac - The Chain (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDG2m5hN1vo%20class="link")
Gaelic Storm - One More Day Above the Roses (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1E9O7niZAM%20class="link")
Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ9rUzIMcZQ%20class="link")
Rammstein - Haifisch (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GukNjYQZW8s%20class="link")
Reckless Kelly - Seven Nights in Eire (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQsf0ND4CNw%20class="link")
Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbmS3tQJ7Os%20class="link")
Talking Heads - Once in a Lifetime (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGofoH9RDEA%20class="link")
Whiskey Myers - On The River (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab3sWMXI12U%20class="link")

Tiebreakers:
- Number of voters giving 12 points
- Number of voters giving 10 points
...
- Number of voters giving 2 points
- PPV in Round 5 (if applicable)
- PPV in Round 4 (if applicable)
- PPV in Round 3
- PPV in Round 2
- Last year's result (1 > 2 > ... > 20 > Round 4 > Round 3 > Round 2 > other)
- PPV in Round 1 (if applicable)
- Random chance

Tactical voting refers to either giving more points than you normally would to a song because it would make the difference between it going through or getting eliminated, or giving fewer points than you normally would to a song because it might kick a song you like even more out of the competition. This is hard to prevent, but my very strong request would be to not do it. Give points to the songs you believe deserve to go through, regardless of how others are voting. Doing otherwise reduces the value of votes that came before you, which is unfair to them. Remember that it's not a competition between voters, but a collective effort to make a nice list of songs we like. Thanks.

I did my best with all the links but there is always a chance some are broken or have a wrong version or bad audio quality. If a link is broken or you have a suggestion for a better link, please contact me or post the link in the thread. Officially, we are not voting on the YouTube link, but on the listed Artist + Title.

COMMENTARY ON THE PROGRESS OF THE GAME, THE RULES, WHAT SONGS YOU LIKE, ETC., IS VERY WELCOME.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on November 05, 2021, 10:02:20 PM
2021 TMT20 #20

Jefferson Starship - Jane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXmrMMYpQL4

Released 1979
From the album Freedom at Point Zero

First nominated by Munditenens Tresplet in 2016
Previously #9 in 2019

Round 5 Points - 3

Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Tric'hard Lenxheir on November 06, 2021, 09:00:57 AM
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Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
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Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Tric'hard Lenxheir on November 06, 2021, 01:59:04 PM
Sorry, i didn't read the instructions fully.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on November 07, 2021, 08:59:28 PM
2021 TMT20 #19

Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy Train
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2VZjE6JdHg

Released 1980
From the album Blizzard of Ozz

First nominated by Ian Plätschisch in 2017
Previously #13 in 2017, #10 in 2018, and #19 in 2020.

Round 5 Points - 4

Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on November 08, 2021, 08:18:42 PM
This is a very strong final group for me. I quite like 14 of the 15 songs.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on November 08, 2021, 08:33:17 PM
2021 TMT20 #18

Muse - Knights of Cydonia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3Yc3HhSl1Q

Released 2006
From the album Black Holes and Revelations

First nominated by Glüc da Dhi in 2015
Previously #13 in 2015, #6 in 2016, and #1 in 2018.

Round 5 Points - 4



Fun fact: Knights of Cydonia is the most recently released song to ever win the TMT20.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on November 09, 2021, 01:26:51 PM
Only three days left to vote!
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on November 09, 2021, 04:22:39 PM
With four votes cast, eight songs are within four points of the lead.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on November 09, 2021, 04:27:47 PM
2021 TMT20 #17

Johnny Cash - Ring of Fire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WyLhwYFgmk

Released 1963
From the album Ring of Fire: The Best of Johnny Cash

First nominated by Moritz Fernaodescu in 2013
Previously #5 in 2016, #16 in 2017, and #3 in 2020.

Round 5 Points - 4


Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on November 11, 2021, 04:59:52 PM
2021 TMT20 #16

Louis Armstrong - What a Wonderful World
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3yCcXgbKrE

Released 1967

First nominated by Çesli da Chilseu in 2009
Previously #1 in 2016, #7 in 2019, and #17 in 2020.

Round 5 Points - 5

Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Glüc on November 12, 2021, 04:54:58 PM
Just submitted my vote after listening to all songs one more time. Very difficult to differentiate between the top 4. All of these are so good. Looking forward to following the final without knowing the results in advance for the first time.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Glüc on November 12, 2021, 04:56:01 PM
Completely random prediction for the bottom 3:

15 Seven Nights in Eire
14 Haifisch
13 Roam
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on November 12, 2021, 10:11:02 PM
Voting on the final is now closed. Six people voted.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on November 12, 2021, 10:15:26 PM
2021 TMT20 #15

Rammstein - Haifisch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GukNjYQZW8s

Released 2010
From the album Liebe ist für alle da

First nominated by Audrada Rôibeardét in the 2019 Special Edition

Final Round Points - 11


One third place vote, but the other five voters gave it a combined total of only three points.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on November 13, 2021, 12:30:56 PM
2021 TMT20 #14

Reckless Kelly - Seven Nights in Eire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQsf0ND4CNw

Released 2005
From the album Wicked Twisted Road

First nominated by Xhordan Plätschisch in 2017
Previously #10 in 2017 and #19 in 2018.

Final Round Points - 15


Received points from four voters, but no voter gave it more than six.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on November 13, 2021, 12:33:37 PM
2021 TMT20 #13

The B-52s - Roam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNwC0sp-uA4

Released 1989
From the album Cosmic Thing

First nominated by Sir X. Pol Briga in 2020

Final Round Points - 16


Received one 12-point vote, but only four points from the other five voters.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on November 13, 2021, 12:35:03 PM
Quote from: Glüc da Dhi S.H. on November 12, 2021, 04:56:01 PM
Completely random prediction for the bottom 3:

15 Seven Nights in Eire
14 Haifisch
13 Roam
How did you come up with this? It was nearly perfect (only switching the positions of Seven Nights in Eire and Roam).
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Glüc on November 13, 2021, 01:17:26 PM
Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on November 13, 2021, 12:35:03 PM
Quote from: Glüc da Dhi S.H. on November 12, 2021, 04:56:01 PM
Completely random prediction for the bottom 3:

15 Seven Nights in Eire
14 Haifisch
13 Roam
How did you come up with this? It was nearly perfect (only switching the positions of Seven Nights in Eire and Roam).

Honestly I didnt do any sort of point by point analysis per voter or anything or take a detailed look at earlier votes. I just thought of who would likely be voting and which songs I remember them rooting for and took a rough guess. Im genuinely surprised I got it right.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Glüc on November 13, 2021, 01:20:56 PM
Another rough guess:

12 - One More Day Above the Roses
11 - On the River
10 - Im Shipping Up to Boston
9 - Once in a Lifetime
8 - You Give Love a Bad Name
7 - The Devil Went Down to Georgia

Edit: forgot about two songs

Dont expect this one to be nearly as accurate because there are several othera that I expect to see soon as well
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Glüc on November 13, 2021, 04:57:22 PM
Also, fwiw, I think Gimme Shelter is the overwhelming favourite. Mostly, because I can't think of any other finalist that feels like a genuine contender for the number 1 spot atm.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on November 14, 2021, 03:41:50 PM
2021 TMT20 #12

Bon Jovi - You Give Love a Bad Name
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrZHPOeOxQQ

Released 1986
From the album Slippery When Wet

First nominated by Ian Plätschisch in 2017
Previously #4 in 2017, #5 in 2018, #10 in 2019, and #11 in 2020

Final Round Points - 18


Received one 12-point vote (from me), but the only other two voters to give it points put it in their bottom half.

This is the fifth consecutive year in the top 20 for this song, but its position has declined each time.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on November 14, 2021, 03:49:30 PM
2021 TMT20 #11

Dropkick Murphys - I'm Shipping Up to Boston
https://youtu.be/pMgHX2dhVlE

Released 2005
From the album The Warrior's Code

First nominated by Ian Plätschisch in 2021

Final Round Points - 19


Recieved a second- and third-place vote, but only one point from the other four voters.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on November 14, 2021, 03:57:49 PM
Fun fact: half of the songs in the Top 20 of the 2015 contest are no longer around (that is, they were eliminated in round one at some point between 2016 and now). This includes five of the top ten and three of the top five.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on November 15, 2021, 09:08:23 PM
2021 TMT20 #10

Gaelic Storm - One More Day Above the Roses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1E9O7niZAM

Released 2012
From the album Chicken Boxer

First nominated by Ian Plätschisch in 2015
Previously #12 in 2016 and #15 in 2018.

Final Round Points - 21


This song has been in and out of the Top 20 before, but this is its highest ever finish and first time cracking the top 10. Received a second-place vote (from me) and a top-half vote from another voter known to also like this song, but a few additional points from two other voters put it over the top.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on November 15, 2021, 09:24:01 PM
2021 TMT20 #9

Whiskey Myers - On the River
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab3sWMXI12U

Released 2016
From the album Mud

First nominated by Xhordan Plätschisch in 2019
Previously #16 in 2019.

Final Round Points - 21


This song is both the most recently released song in this year's Top 20 and the highest-ranking song this year released in the 21st century. In fact, it is the second-most recently released song to feature in the Top 20 in any year, behind only "High Hopes" (released 2018 and #13 last year), which only earned a nomination in the TMT20 by winning the 2019 special edition focusing on newly released songs.

Received the same number of points as "One More Day Above the Roses," but received a first-place vote and thus won the tiebreaker.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Glüc on November 16, 2021, 03:23:29 AM
Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on November 15, 2021, 09:24:01 PM

This song is both the most recently released song in this year's Top 20 and the highest-ranking song this year released in the 21st century. In fact, it is the second-most recently released song to feature in the Top 20 in any year, behind only "High Hopes" (released 2018 and #13 last year), which only earned a nomination in the TMT20 by winning the 2019 special edition focusing on newly released songs.

I suppose it is quite telling that the most recently released song in the TMT, and the highest ranking post 1982(!) still sounds like it could have been released 4 decades ago (still a good song though).
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Glüc on November 16, 2021, 03:24:19 AM
I'm glad Once in a Lifetime is still in. Don't expect that to last that much longer though.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on November 16, 2021, 08:49:32 PM
2021 TMT20 #8

Bob Segar - Old Time Rock and Roll
https://youtu.be/W1LsRShUPtY

Released 1979
From the album Stranger in Town

First nominated by Ian Plätschisch in 2021

Final Round Points - 23


The highest ranking new nomination.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on November 16, 2021, 08:53:17 PM
2021 TMT20 #7

Talking Heads - Once in a Lifetime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGofoH9RDEA

Released 1980
From the album Remain in Light

First nominated by Glüc da Dhi in 2017
Previously #9 in 2017 and #13 in 2018.

Final Round Points - 23

Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on November 16, 2021, 08:57:46 PM
These two songs had the closest tiebreaker of the final. Both received a total of 23 points and one first-place vote. However, Once in a Lifetime also got a 7-point vote, while the highest other vote for Old Time Rock and Roll was for six points. Under last year's Final Round first tiebreaker rules (average of Rd 2 and 3 PPV), Bob Segar would have won.

Unfortunate, since Once in a Lifetime was the only song in the final that I don't like  :P
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Glüc on November 17, 2021, 04:45:52 AM
12 - Once in a Lifetime
10 -
8 - Haifisch
7 -
6 -
5 -
4 -
3 - On the River
2 - Roam
1 -

Too bad about Once in a Lifetime and Haifisch, though I was positively surprised about them reaching the final in the first place. All 0-pointers are out already so I can't really complain.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Glüc on November 17, 2021, 04:51:28 AM
Probably mentioned this before in an earlier edition, but for anyone who (unlike Ian apparently) does appreciate the music of Talking Heads, it's well worth watching the entire Stop Making Sense film. Nearly every performance on there (except maybe Psycho Killer) is better than the studio version. It's an overall brilliant performance, probably the best full concert movie of any artist out there.

youtube playlist link (http://youtube.com/watch?v=bM9SHDNAbPw&list=PL9F--rUB8nuY3FPPnmiBMtLkasg7X32FP)
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Glüc on November 17, 2021, 05:08:06 AM
Predictions holding up reasonably well so far (probably mostly through luck), but it gets increasingly difficult

6 - The Devil Went Down to Georgia - too much love/hate I suspect. Not enough broad support.
5 - Sultans of Swing - Dire Straits tracks getting in each others way. Not sure which will end up higher.
4 - Bohemian Rhapsody - Has been losing steam in recent years and didn't have a great run up to the final.
3 - The Chain - Too few top-3 spots. Expecting a lot of mid-range scores.
2 - Telegraph Road - See Sultans.
1 - Gimme Shelter - Favourite by process of elimination
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on November 17, 2021, 09:43:32 PM
2021 TMT20 #6

The Charlie Daniels Band - The Devil Went Down to Georgia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6RUg-NkjY4
Released 1979
From the album Million Mile Reflections

First nominated by Ian Plätschisch in 2017
Previously #6 in 2017, #16 in 2018, #6 in 2019, and #5 in 2020

Final Round Points - 27


Only Bohemian Rhapsody (7) and Telegraph Road (6) have made it into the top 10 more times than this song.

Quote from: Glüc da Dhi S.H. on November 17, 2021, 05:08:06 AM
6 - The Devil Went Down to Georgia - too much love/hate I suspect. Not enough broad support.
Right position, wrong reason. This song received points from all six voters, but the majority ranked it in their bottom half and no one gave it more than eight. By standard deviation of number of points, it was the third-least divisive song (behind Seven Nights in Eire and a song that hasn't come up yet).
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on November 17, 2021, 09:58:04 PM
2021 TMT20 #5

Dire Straights - Telegraph Road
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8bWGGA-5HM
Released 1982
From the album Love Over Gold

First nominated by Lüc da Schir in 2013
Previously #6 in 2015, #2 in 2017, #7 in 2018, #5 in 2019, and #4 in 2020.

Final Round Points - 27


Only Bohemian Rhapsody (7) has made it into the top 5 more times than this song. By standard deviation of number of points, this was the most divisive song, with two voters giving it second-place votes, but three voters giving it no points. The two second-place votes gave it the edge over The Devil Went Downt to Georgia in the tiebreaker and gave it yet another top-5 finish.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on November 17, 2021, 10:07:41 PM
2021 TMT20 #4

Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ9rUzIMcZQ
Released 1975
From the album A Night at the Opera

First nominated by Eðo Grischun in 2009
Previously #1 in 2015, #4 in 2016, #1 in 2017, #2 in 2018, #4 in 2019, and #2 in 2020.

Final Round Points - 29


Talossa's favorite song, Bohemian Rhapsody has been on the TMT20 podium more often than it hasn't been. It missed this year by a single point, but one first-place vote along with three mid-range votes is good for another 4th place finish.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on November 17, 2021, 10:09:32 PM
No song in the top 3 received a 12-point vote.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Glüc on November 18, 2021, 03:25:48 AM
Oof. Hoped the Dire Straitses would have shown up in a different order. I had Telegraph Road second, so my top 3 is out now.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on November 18, 2021, 05:36:09 PM
2021 TMT20 #3

The Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbmS3tQJ7Os
Released 1969
From the album Let It Bleed

First nominated by Xhordan Plätschisch in 2018
Previously #14 in 2018, #3 in 2019, and #1 in 2020.

Final Round Points - 30


Everyone gave this song points, but no one gave it more than eight (the same outcome, in fact, as The Devil Went Down to Georgia, and the second-place song this year).

Third place is very respectable for a defending champion. In fact, it is the second-highest ever finish for such a song (behind, as usual, Bohemian Rhapsody, which won in 2017 and came in second in 2018).
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Glüc on November 18, 2021, 06:41:21 PM
Ooh, that's a surprise. I knew we never had a consecutive winner, but I thought Gimme Shelter would break the curse.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on November 19, 2021, 06:59:53 PM
DRUMROLL PLEASE
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on November 19, 2021, 07:10:53 PM
2021 TMT20 #2

Fleetwood Mac - The Chain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDG2m5hN1vo
Released 1977
From the album Rumours

First nominated by Glüc da Dhi in 2018
Previously #20 in 2018.

Final Round Points - 32


By standard deviation of the number of points given, this was the least divisive song in the Final. Every voter gave it between three and eight points. That was enough for a great finish, but not enough to win.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on November 19, 2021, 07:23:48 PM
2021 TMT20 #1

Dire Straits - Sultans of Swing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIufLA7Bx2Q
Released 1978
From the album Dire Straits

First nominated by Erschéveþ da Schir in 2019
Previously #8 in 2019 and #8 in 2020.

Final Round Points - 36


Three top-3 votes, plus two mid-range votes, delivered this song the win.

I tried desparately to come up with a statistic for which Dire Straits would have Queen beat, but alas I am not sure it is possible (unless you ignore Under Pressure).

Total Top-20 finishes: 14 for Queen and 9 for Dire Straits (Bon Jovi is next, with 7).
Total Top-10 finishes: 10 for Queen and 9 for Dire Straits
Total Top-5 finishes: 9 for Queen and 5 for Dire Straits
Total Top-3 finishes: 5 for Queen and 2 for Dire Straits
Total wins: 2 for Queen and 1 for Dire Straits

The majority of Dire Straits' TMT20 success has come from Telegraph Road (it has made the Top 10 every year except 2016), so I guess it's surprising that Sultans of Swing was their first song to actually win.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on November 19, 2021, 07:35:52 PM
Thanks to everyone who participated. I may be coming out with some more stats over the coming days.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: xpb on November 19, 2021, 09:30:53 PM
Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on November 19, 2021, 07:35:52 PM
Thanks to everyone who participated. I may be coming out with some more stats over the coming days.
Thanks for moderating the voting!
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: Glüc on November 20, 2021, 01:52:02 PM
Not surprised by the low sd for the Chain. Am somewhat surprised by Sultans winning, though it is a classic of course.

This was my full list btw:
12 - Once in a Lifetime
10 - Telegraph Road
8 - Haifisch
7 - Gimme Shelter
6 - Bohemian Rhapsody
5 - The Chain
4 - Sultans of Swing
3 - On the River
2 - Roam
1 - The Devil Went Down to Georgia

Anyway, many thanks to Ian for taking over the organisation for this year. It was nice to just be a participant for once. I also very much enjoyed the stats you included.
Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: xpb on November 25, 2021, 03:15:25 PM
Quote from: Glüc da Dhi S.H. on November 20, 2021, 01:52:02 PM
Not surprised by the low sd for the Chain. Am somewhat surprised by Sultans winning, though it is a classic of course.

This was my full list btw:
12 - Once in a Lifetime
10 - Telegraph Road
8 - Haifisch
7 - Gimme Shelter
6 - Bohemian Rhapsody
5 - The Chain
4 - Sultans of Swing
3 - On the River
2 - Roam
1 - The Devil Went Down to Georgia

Anyway, many thanks to Ian for taking over the organisation for this year. It was nice to just be a participant for once. I also very much enjoyed the stats you included.

Mine were

12 - B-52's - Roam
10 - Dire Straits - Telegraph Road
8 - Dire Straits - Sultans Of Swing
7 - Talking Heads - Once in a Lifetime
6 - Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter
5 - Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody
4 - Charlie Daniels Band - The Devil Went Down to Georgia
3 - Fleetwood Mac - The Chain
2 - Reckless Kelly - Seven Nights in Eire
1 - Dropkick Murphys - I'm Shipping Up To Boston

but didn't really get much support for my top choice - your votes provided half of the additional!  We at least agree at the 10 point level.

Title: Re: The 2021 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]
Post by: xpb on February 03, 2022, 10:04:07 PM
Cool cover of 2021 #1
https://youtu.be/V7nsSysYfjU