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Special Interests => El Glheþ Talossan => Topic started by: luc on December 06, 2019, 08:31:13 AM

Title: Glheþinaziun d'ar friul noveu
Post by: luc on December 06, 2019, 08:31:13 AM
Update: The infrastructure for the glheþinaziun is now in place (see this post) (https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=38.msg346#msg346)



(yes, "friul" is not the right word but I couldn't resist using it... for some reason :P)

Right, so azul, estimats amíci Ladintschen. As I mentioned in the feature list, this new forum potentially allows for multiple interface languages to be installed. This clearly means there's room for a custom Talossan translation of the whole interface, if it's a project that people would be interested in.

(I'm also doing my code tweaks in a language-neutral way, so for example the "Latest 59" button should also be translatable by just editing the string file)
Title: Re: Glheþinaziun d'ar friul noveu
Post by: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial on December 06, 2019, 09:12:03 AM
We'd need a unified orthography first I'm afraid...

I don't know, maybe we could develop one for this project.
What do you guys think? @Miestrâ Schiva, UrN @Magniloqueu Épiqeu Ac’hlerglünä da Lhiun @Iac Marscheir
Title: Re: Glheþinaziun d'ar friul noveu
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on December 06, 2019, 02:37:13 PM
I think that whichever of you guys actually wants to take responsibility for getting SIGN started and making policy on orthography and everything else will be recommended for the Order of the Purple Tongue by myself.

Sadly, everything I saw over the last term was everyone saying "no not me" and ducking for cover, while agreeing that someone else should do it.
Title: Re: Glheþinaziun d'ar friul noveu
Post by: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial on December 06, 2019, 02:46:49 PM
I think that whichever of you guys actually wants to take responsibility for getting SIGN started and making policy on orthography and everything else will be recommended for the Order of the Purple Tongue by myself.

Sadly, everything I saw over the last term was everyone saying "no not me" and ducking for cover, while agreeing that someone else should do it.
I didn't see that, I saw people who couldnt agree on much, if anything.

Setting up SIGN and declaring spelling reforms is really easy. The most important and difficult part is to actually convince everyone else to actually follow the spelling reforms you declared, because what's the point of having official spelling rules if nobody follows them?

I could just set up SIGN and declare that the spellings that I outlined in the PDF in my signature are now the One True Orthography(TM), but unless everyone else involved has a sudden change of heart, this would get us nowhere. It'd probably piss people off and make the job even more difficult in future. Though if you think that unilaterally declaring stuff is not only fine but actually the way to go, I will happily do just that.
Title: Re: Glheþinaziun d'ar friul noveu
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on December 06, 2019, 03:05:41 PM
HAHAHAHAHA you called my bluff and I wasn't bluffing (https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=40.0).

Go for it. If you want me to countersign your proposals as the One True Talossan (until SIGN is properly set up), I will.
Title: Re: Glheþinaziun d'ar friul noveu
Post by: Iac Marscheir on December 06, 2019, 05:53:32 PM
I feel like I'm the last real holdout on the orthography question. I did a few short comparative translations using the CS and TS, and I guess the traditional spelling is starting to grow on me, mainly because it looks kinda silly, like it's acting like it's taking itself seriously.

So, should the general message of the decrees be "let's all just forget the 2007 Arestada happened", I guess I'd be able to live with it.
Title: Re: Glheþinaziun d'ar friul noveu
Post by: Magniloqueu Épiqeu Ac’hlerglünä da Lhiun on December 06, 2019, 08:26:59 PM
I still hate the traditional orthography, because it has so many redundant diacritics.
Title: Re: Glheþinaziun d'ar friul noveu
Post by: luc on December 11, 2019, 07:57:42 AM
(Will add the link to the top post as well btw)

Alright, me and Marcel have kicked things off. There is now a Github repository for the translation which you can access at https://github.com/badinl/glhetg-witt (https://github.com/badinl/glhetg-witt). (Note that I am fully aware that the translation might not begin until that provisional standard thing is settled)

How do I contribute?
Simple:

1) Sign up for a free Github account (https://github.com/), or use your own if you already have one

2) Ping me somewhere so I can add you as a collaborator (otherwise I will have to manually approve your contributions)

3) Head to the repository (https://github.com/badinl/glhetg-witt) and start contributing! Select a file, hit "Edit" and begin translating the strings like so:
Code: [Select]
$txt['admin_boards'] = 'Boards';becomes
Code: [Select]
$txt['admin_boards'] = 'Scumparts';(or whatever the correct translation and pluralisation is)

4) When everything is translated, I will add the translation to the forum and it will become fully usable.
Title: Re: Glheþinaziun d'ar friul noveu
Post by: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial on December 11, 2019, 10:44:21 AM
Some tentative guidelines:


Probably more to follow
Title: Re: Glheþinaziun d'ar friul noveu
Post by: luc on December 12, 2019, 06:07:18 AM
Miestrâ and Iac have both been added to the repo.
Title: Re: Glheþinaziun d'ar friul noveu
Post by: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial on December 24, 2019, 05:10:36 PM
Did I forget to clear my cache or am I really the only one who has contributed translations?
Title: Re: Glheþinaziun d'ar friul noveu
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on December 24, 2019, 06:47:42 PM
C'è sür va lísta "à façarë".
Title: Re: Glheþinaziun d'ar friul noveu
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on April 02, 2020, 07:24:44 PM
So is it only the file index.talossan.php that needs updating?
Title: Re: Glheþinaziun d'ar friul noveu
Post by: luc on April 07, 2020, 11:46:01 AM
So is it only the file index.talossan.php that needs updating?
No, all files. At some point we decided we would bulk-rename them when they are ready.