I think what saddens me the most about the TNC is that they think everyone else is as stupid as they are, as if no one else had the intelligence to see what they were doing and why it could be problematic for Talossa, her norms, her traditions, etc.

Hey, Davinescu, have you ever heard of game theory? It's this idea that says, wherever a person's dominant strategies require defection from the preferred outcome, they are going to defect every single time.

So, either the TNC leadership are donkey butts who don't think that transparency and respect are a preferred outcome, which would be really dangerous for Talossa!, or they are fraudulent tricksters who don't care and are just sad that they got caught.

I'm betting on the latter, because it was the TNC itself who argued for a Grand Coalition and made calls for a reconciliation of differences across the parties... which makes them hypocrites on top of being fraudulent tricksters.

Nixon had better charm than this. Talossa deserves so much better than the TNC.

I speak for myself, and no one else:

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on April 22, 2022, 10:51:50 AM
This joint statement only indicates you are threatened by my actions. I will reach out to anyone (at any time after their immigrating to the Kingdom) that I want to solicit their support for the TNC and its policies. It will be for that person to consider and respond. Your attempt at bullying will be treated as such and ignored.

Bullying requires some manner of coercion, right? At a minimum, duress. I wonder what causes more duress or coercion?: trying secretly in the shadows to get a new citizen to secure your election as Seneschal, or issuing a public statement laying out priorities and upholding longstanding norms.

For what it's worth, I don't think I've ever heard a leader winge about being bullied. Did Nixon complain about bullying when he got caught in Watergate? I can't remember. Wait, I take that back. Trump complained about being treated unfairly. You're more a Trump guy, huh? Big bad dumb guy trying to roleplay as a leader, who really just wants to circlejerk with his buddies about feeling powerful? Man, even Nixon had more gumption!

You wanted to lead Talossa, right? Put on your big-boy pants, be more creative, and find a better comeback than "bullying", please.

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on April 22, 2022, 12:07:45 PM
This is really interesting, and I want to be absolutely clear: are we suggesting that it is an ethical rule that it is out of bounds to reach out to MCs of an opposing party to try to convince them to support a different candidate or coalition? I would really really like to hear an answer from this from the leader of the Free Democrats specifically.

Sometimes, in brief moments of self-hatred, I wonder what it'd be like if I were your therapist. Like, purely from a psychological and sociological perspective, I am really honestly truly fascinated by you.

Somehow you are smart enough to write words, put together sentences, and manage Wiki articles (when you're not deleting other people's work, that is), but somehow not smart enough to fathom how it could be a taboo (or unethical, in any case) to conspire against a brand-new citizen in order undermine an election.

To be more clear, I think that you know the difference, but you like to play dumb. I have observed this weird pattern where, once confronted with a question, the answer to which may lose you rhetorical victory, you just... don't answer. As if the question was never asked! Or, you like to answer a question which wasn't asked, but which would give you more room to claim victory.

I was not the person whom you solicited for an answer, but I want to answer anyways – ironically, by asking you a question! (My money is that you're too chickenshit to respond, but I'll be humored if you find the gumption.)

If the TNC were not trying to do something unethical, underhanded, or otherwise unbecoming, then why was the communication sent privately? Surely a party and its leadership who want to be transparent, ethical, and forthcoming would make an announcement at large and trying to persuade MCs on the merits alone, without resorting to private secret communiques?

Quote from: mximo on April 12, 2022, 12:08:04 PM
Azul,

I will support the Baron if he wish to take this job.

Mximo Carbonèl

I stand now as the lone supporter of Mximo for Túischac'h. I invite any other MCs to join me.

I await the official assignment of @the FreeDems party leader, but seeing that I am the only active FreeDems member in Florencia, I find it likely that I will be assigned the singular seat.

I wish to nominate @Mximo for Túischac'h.

Hear hear!

@Miestră Schivă, UrN has proven her record as Seneschal, and Talossa would be well-served again by her service.

Vote FreeDem!

I would say...

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on March 18, 2022, 02:45:13 PM
I DO NOT appreciate your immediate assumption that I was abusing my authority am a menace. But I am not surprised by your behavior.

...but I am not so immediately offended.

...and Talossa has been asking for activity, so here I am.

Thank you kindly!

It is incredibly fair to expect an answer, at least to part of the question, because if my posts can be recovered, it affects the lawsuit materially. In fact, if they can be recovered, then the controversy is nearly or actually entirely moot. On the other hand, if they cannot be recovered, that forces the suit to proceed.

I am happy to be corrected! It is a fair point, though one which offers no relief to Dien, it seems  ;)

Quote from: Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM on March 18, 2022, 03:45:53 PM
Without giving offense, as the Chancery is named, even if only tangentially, in the suit now sitting before the Uppermost Cort, I politely decline to answer further questions as to the workings of Wittenberg without advice from an attorney or unless questioned by the Cort to do so.

Will the Secretary of State confirm at the least – certainly, I would say, without being able to impart upon himself, the office, or the Chancery as a whole any quantity of liability – that my posts (1) were deleted, (2) cannot be recovered, and (3) will have to be remade by me from scratch if I wish that they 'see the day of light'?

Edited for typos.

Quote from: Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM on March 18, 2022, 03:29:54 PM

Quote from: Açafat del Val on March 18, 2022, 03:08:44 PM
Actually, let's make a point of clarification, Dr. dal Nordselvă: how would these posts have been deleted, unless the moderator intended to delete them?

In any and all forums for which I have ever moderated, it is a common tool to select a child/destination forum. How is it possible that Brenier "moved" my posts, which happens to have the effect of deleting them?

There exists a few options, at least on my screen. A moderator/admin can remove a post or move a post. If a post is deleted, I've not found a way (up until I discovered the "recycle bin" option, to restore them. I'll keep searching. A moved post gives the option of where to move it to, as well as the ability to create a new thread.

To the extent that "a moved post gives the option of where to move it to", my next question is: Is there any ability to have "moved" a post without selecting a destination, or will the PHP database kickback the request? More to the point, is it mechanically possible that a moderator may delete a post by "accident", or are there clear signs of "remove", "delete", and similar language which make it clear that the moderator is about to perform an act of deletion, as opposed to an act of moving?

Actually, let's make a point of clarification, Dr. dal Nordselvă: how would these posts have been deleted, unless the moderator intended to delete them?

In any and all forums for which I have ever moderated, it is a common tool to select a child/destination forum. How is it possible that Brenier "moved" my posts, which happens to have the effect of deleting them?

Quote from: Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM on March 18, 2022, 02:55:42 PM

Correct. Like I said, I rarely intervene as the administrator. I'd suggest if you're not sure how to move a post, let me know and I'll help. Let's not jump to conclusions about bad faith, etc, and I hope someone has quotes or whatever so the main points of the now missing threads are still usable in some form.

Future deleted threads will be more easy to restore, now that I've found that hidden setting.

Unless the comments are restored, I have suffered a harm that conveniently benefits Breneir's electioneering. That is a remediable action, which the Corts may heal through damages, injunctions, or otherwise.

Like it or not, Wittenberg is a government portal. It is inOrganic and in any case illegal that a publicly elected official has caused that my political speech was chilled. If it was done in bad faith, then it is an intentional act that deserves harsh penalties; and, even if it weren't done in bad faith, it was gross negligence (not merely negligence) that must be made whole. Brenier had a duty of care to preserve my comments, and he violated that duty. Moreover, whether it was intentional or negligent, the effect is that Brenier stifled critical statements so that the public is none the wiser.

In "the real world", it is not excusable to say "oopsie", especially when the actor benefits from the result!

These are neither idle nor threats. They are statements of fact. If the comments cannot be restored in the originality, however, then I will be seeking judicial relief immediately.

I await to hear whether these comments may be restored.

Because Brenier cannot stifle my speech in this subforum, I will be trying to piece back together what I wrote, particularly the parts that were critical of him, which one can only assume he didn't want anyone else to see.

And let us note very specifically that our Secretary of State, even when presented with tumultuous content, locks threads or moves them, rather than deletes them, which Brenier easily could have done.

Quote from: Açafat del Val on March 18, 2022, 01:46:43 PM

Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil on March 18, 2022, 12:53:49 PM
Actually, I have drafted a constitution that merges the two extant provincial constitutions (as well as a second extra draft, on the feedback from S:reu Tzaracomprada, that takes the initial draft and makes it into a directorate). These drafts lift parts of both the Benitian and Florencian constitutions, sometimes word-for-word, sometimes not. If you would like, I can send you links for either or both.

Yes, please.

Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil on March 18, 2022, 12:53:49 PM
[something lost to Brenier's deletion]

I'll take that on the chin, too. If the canton doesn't represent dominion over Florencia, then fair's fair. I'll reiterate that it's still a beautiful design, though.

Quote from: Açafat del Val[I cannot replicate this yet, because Mic'haglh Autófil snipped it.

Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil on March 18, 2022, 12:53:49 PM
Another part, this time from Mic'haglh Autófil, that I cannot replicate yet, also because he snipped it.

It's hard for me to give a shit remain active when every instance of my passions and interests were unequivocally, unashamedly, and viscously overturned by the end of 2020. I made contributions to Florencia specifically and Talossa generally, and I think that to date most or all of them have been undone, not because they were substantively bad or even improper, but because many Talossans don't want to run a nation – they want to run their own one-man fiefs ;)

It's funny, by the way, that those folks who cry about the FreeDems' failure to govern are the same folks who squash literally any ideas that weren't theirs. (I'm talking about the TNC.)

Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil on March 18, 2022, 12:53:49 PM
In the case of our provinces specifically: a shared history, and to a lesser extent proximity, are what make the pairing an obvious place to start, but the why is really more of a nationwide issue at this point.

And since you have argued in another thread for enlarging Florencia instead -- ok then, it's your turn to make a convincing argument.

Here's my argument: Get rid of all provinces, including Florencia. Until then, no mergers.