Moving this from the finance thread to a separate discussion:

It has now been a decade since the US Patent and Trademark Office https://www.uspto.gov/ recognized the Talossa as a trademark.  Although unlikely to be used elsewhere, it would be useful for the Kingdom to claw back the rights to this.

Word Mark   TALOSSA
Goods and Services   (CANCELLED) IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: Entertainment services, namely, providing historical, cultural and political information about an organization in the nature of a fictional nation. FIRST USE: 19791226. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19850701
Standard Characters Claimed   
Mark Drawing Code   (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Serial Number   78401395
Filing Date   April 14, 2004
Current Basis   1A
Original Filing Basis   1B
Published for Opposition   March 1, 2005
Registration Number   2955054
Registration Date   May 24, 2005
Owner   (REGISTRANT) Madison, Robert B. INDIVIDUAL UNITED STATES 8631 North Servite Drive Unit 118 Milwaukee WISCONSIN 53223
Type of Mark   SERVICE MARK
Register   PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator   DEAD
Cancellation Date   January 24, 2013

How? Ben would never let us.

The trademark is dead, XPB is pointing out, I think.  It might be up for grabs.

The point is that I'm pretty sure that, while Ben could not re-establish the trademark, he could stop us from establishing the trademark.

He could?  I must not understand something about the process.  I would have thought that we could file to claim a canceled trademark not otherwise being used in commerce.

Woof, pretty expensive if we're wrong -- looks like the fee is $500!

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on March 21, 2023, 02:56:10 PMHe could?  I must not understand something about the process.  I would have thought that we could file to claim a canceled trademark not otherwise being used in commerce.

If I  am correct in my understanding of the matter here (and keep in mind my IP knowledge is mainly in terms of copyright and licensing), Ben could essentially say "Hey!  I use that too, and it is therefor too common for their sole use."

Essentially how you can trademark a specific logo and name, but not a type of business.

And, even if he ISN'T within his rights... do we have the resources to slug it out in an American court?

I'm not inclined to do it unless he'd agree to it, personally.  Too much money at risk.  But he might well agree, if people were not aggressive jerks about it.  He already tried to immigrate again.  Maybe it's time to reach out about things like this?