Merging Mayhem

[Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC]

That wobbly miéida on the Manaweg flag hurts my eyes, but nice design otherwise

[Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC]

Electing a new Senator from scratch appears to be one of he things that has caused mergers to get hung up before, from what I'm seeing.

Honestly, the main problem with "Manaweg" seems to be the problem that derailed "Iarnéria" (Fiova + Florencia), and that's just monarchists absolutely refusing to let themselves be "taken over by Republicans". I mean, I will assume that's why staunch monarchist Danihel Txecescu said "absolutely not" on the subject.

[Mic’haglh Autófil, O.Be]

That wobbly miéida on the Manaweg flag hurts my eyes, but nice design otherwise

You might like the non-wobbly version better :P

[Açafat del Val]

Florencia has the most profound provincial constitution of any of them, one of the more active legislatures/parliaments among them, and (call me biased) one of the more beautiful sets of heraldry. Before someone accuses me of arrogance, I didn't design the flag or coat of arms of Florencia; I merely updated them with 2020 graphics.

Although I admit to thinking that provinces should be abolished altogether, if they should remain at all, Florencia does NOT EVER[/i] deserve to be subsumed, annexed, merged, or otherwise. I would dare to say that recent Florencians have done more for Talossa than most Benitians!

[Mic’haglh Autófil, O.Be]

Moving this here since it's a slightly more appropriate venue than the Senator's office thread.

Actually, I have drafted a constitution that merges the two extant provincial constitutions (as well as a second extra draft, on the feedback from S:reu Tzaracomprada, that takes the initial draft and makes it into a directorate). These drafts lift parts of both the Benitian and Florencian constitutions, sometimes word-for-word, sometimes not. If you would like, I can send you links for either or both.

Yes, please.

Gladly!

The "original" draft

The "directorate" draft

As both of these drafts note, they have appended to them the remnants of both provincial constitutions from which they were taken. These bits are included because I didn't want to just throw them out without determining (as a group) whether or not they have constitutional value. I didn't know if some of them were perhaps necessary to include in a constitution, keeping them perhaps for a regular law. Something for a group discussion, I think.

In a similar vein, the flag canton is specifically not the flag of Benito. I will admit it developed from a redesign I had in mind for Benito, but made some pretty obvious alterations when I started to develop the provincial merger idea further. The flag of the province on the whole is in the canton of all three prospective cantonal flags. It has nothing to with "Benito over Florencia".

I'll take that on the chin, too. If the canton doesn't represent dominion over Florencia, then fair's fair. I'll reiterate that it's still a beautiful design, though.

Again, I thank you. I know your opposition to the design isn't on aesthetic grounds.

A massive -snip-

I will agree this is probably more of an issue to bring before the Cort, but I will say I'm sorry it's been frustrating you.

If he's one of maybe two or three citizens of the province I can see regularly active, then no wonder he can basically do what he wants! There aren't enough people here with whom he can share the load, nor are there really enough to force him to do so. Fewer provinces, each with more citizens, leads to improved governance for each, instead of little one-man fiefs spread throughout the nation like what we currently have.

It's hard for me to give a shit remain active when every instance of my passions and interests were unequivocally, unashamedly, and viscously overturned by the end of 2020. I made contributions to Florencia specifically and Talossa generally, and I think that to date most or all of them have been undone, not because they were substantively bad or even improper, but because many Talossans don't want to run a nation – they want to run their own one-man fiefs ;)

It's funny, by the way, that those folks who cry about the FreeDems' failure to govern are the same folks who squash literally any ideas that weren't theirs. (I'm talking about the TNC.)

Similarly, I can understand why making a bunch of changes would be detrimental to your enthusiasm. I want to clarify that my point there wasn't about inactivity specifically on your part, just in general.

In the case of our provinces specifically: a shared history, and to a lesser extent proximity, are what make the pairing an obvious place to start, but the why is really more of a nationwide issue at this point.

And since you have argued in another thread for enlarging Florencia instead -- ok then, it's your turn to make a convincing argument.

Here's my argument: Get rid of all provinces, including Florencia. Until then, no mergers.

That would solve the issue of threadbare provincial activity, even if not in the manner I was proposing (or, I suppose, in an extreme version of the manner I was proposing ;D). The main issue there is needing to change how we do the Senäts, or perhaps abolishing it altogether. (Not that I'm opposed, I prefer a unicameral Ziu anyway.)