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Started by Tric'hard Lenxheir, July 04, 2022, 02:36:50 PM

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Tric'hard Lenxheir

THE NAMING THE NATIONAL TEAMS ACT

Whereas El Lexhatx currently shows that we have National NFL, NBA and MLB teams but no NHL team and the former are named in separate sections (Section F paragraphs 25, 32 and 33 respectively). Let Section F Paragraph 25 which currently reads "25. The Green Bay Packers shall be Talossa's Official NFL Team, and it will remain so until such time as the nation is able to field its own NFL team to contest the American teams. The Ziu officially authorises loyal Talossan citizens to refer to the team, heretofore known as the "Green Bay Packers," as the "Florenciâ Packers." (23RZ40, 23RZ43)"  be changed to read


"25. Until such time as our great nation is able to field our own teams in the respective leagues the following teams will be recognized as the Talossan National Teams.

25.1 The Green Bay Packers shall be Talossa's Official NFL Team, The Ziu officially authorises loyal Talossan citizens to refer to the team, heretofore known as the "Green Bay Packers," as the "Florenciâ Packers."

25.2 The Milwaukee Brewers shall be Talossa's Official MLB Team, the Ziu officially authorises loyal Talossan citizens to refer to the team, heretofore known as the "Milwaukee Brewers" as the "Maricopa Brewers"

25.3 The Milwaukee Bucks shall be Talossa's Official NBA Team, the Ziu officially authorises loyal Talossan citizens to refer to the team, heretofore known as the "Milwaukee Bucks" as the "Benito Bucks"

25.4 The Nashville Predators shall be Talossa's Official NHL Team, the Ziu officially authorises loyal Talossan citizens to refer to the team, heretofore known as the "Nashville Predators" as the "Cézembre Predators"

25.5 The Milwaukee Admirals shall be Talossa's Official AHL Team, the Ziu officially authorises loyal Talossan citizens to refer to the team, heretofore known as the "Milwaukee Admirals" as the "Maritiimi-Maxhestic Admirals"

Also let section F paragraphs 32, 33 and 38 be stricken from El Lexhatx.

This organizes all of our recognized national teams under one paragraph making them easier to locate. The Nashville Predators were chosen because our neighbors in Wisconsin may declare war on us if we chose either Chicago or Minnesota and because one member said he could not in good conscience root for the team from Detroit and I chose Cézembre because the geographically closer provinces already have teams and sometimes it seems that Cézembre is the forgotten province.


Uréu q'estadra så:
Tric'hard Lenxheir (MC-TNC)
Mic'haglh Autófil, MoFA (MC-PDR)
Tric'hard Lenxheir (Senator-TNC)

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Breneir Tzaracomprada

I must say I love seeing Florencia's own Packers representing the nation in American Football.


Distain, MC
Fighting the good fight

Iason Taiwos


Tric'hard Lenxheir

Quote from: Iason Taiwos on July 04, 2022, 05:31:14 PM
http://wiki.talossa.com/Law:The_Missing_Teeth_Act
Well, we do have an official hockey team (in the AHL)...

I would be okay with adding another subparagraph to add the Admirals as the official American Hockey League (AHL) team. However the bill as I wrote it specifically states NHL along with NFL, NBA and MLB as these are the top level leagues in the country surrounding our primary borders.
Tric'hard Lenxheir (Senator-TNC)

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Mic’haglh Autófil, SMC EiP

The big counterargument is that we sort of find ourselves out of "friendly" options when it comes to Milwaukee-neighboring teams.

Can't really go in favor of the Blackhawks, because there's no way Packers/Brewers/Bucks fans would want to support Chicago.

Can't really go in favor of the Wild, because there's no way Packers fans would want to support Minnesota.

Can't really go in favor of the Red Wings, because there's no way Packers fans would want to support Detroit and because I'm not going to vote in favor of a divisional opponent of the Bruins, lol

However, I think there is a somewhat unorthodox solution. As previously mentioned, we already have an official AHL team -- the Milwaukee/Maritiimi-Maxhestic Admirals. The Admirals have been the minor-league affiliate of the NHL's Nashville Predators since the latter team was founded in 1998. As such...what if we went with the Preds? The only caveat there is picking which province to associate them with, what with Tennessee being so far off.

A Mixed-Member Proportional Cosa is the future!
The Long Fellow, Royal Talossan College of Arms
Specialist, Els Zuávs da l'Altahál Rexhitál
Cäps Naziunal, Parti da Reformaziun

Tric'hard Lenxheir

Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil, MoFA on July 05, 2022, 08:14:20 AM
The big counterargument is that we sort of find ourselves out of "friendly" options when it comes to Milwaukee-neighboring teams.

Can't really go in favor of the Blackhawks, because there's no way Packers/Brewers/Bucks fans would want to support Chicago.

Can't really go in favor of the Wild, because there's no way Packers fans would want to support Minnesota.

Can't really go in favor of the Red Wings, because there's no way Packers fans would want to support Detroit and because I'm not going to vote in favor of a divisional opponent of the Bruins, lol

However, I think there is a somewhat unorthodox solution. As previously mentioned, we already have an official AHL team -- the Milwaukee/Maritiimi-Maxhestic Admirals. The Admirals have been the minor-league affiliate of the NHL's Nashville Predators since the latter team was founded in 1998. As such...what if we went with the Preds? The only caveat there is picking which province to associate them with, what with Tennessee being so far off.

I might be able to go with Nashville, the logical choice of provinces would be to go with the southernmost province but since they are already associated with one of the other professional teams, I was thinking we could go with the province that seems to get left out quite often...Cézembre Predators or perhaps go way out on the far side and use Péngöpäts Predators??? Not sure if using a territory instead of a province would be acceptable.
Tric'hard Lenxheir (Senator-TNC)

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Tric'hard Lenxheir

THE NAMING THE NATIONAL TEAMS ACT

Whereas El Lexhatx currently shows that we have National NFL, NBA and MLB teams but no NHL team and the former are named in separate sections (Section F paragraphs 25, 32 and 33 respectively). Let Section F Paragraph 25 which currently reads "25. The Green Bay Packers shall be Talossa's Official NFL Team, and it will remain so until such time as the nation is able to field its own NFL team to contest the American teams. The Ziu officially authorises loyal Talossan citizens to refer to the team, heretofore known as the "Green Bay Packers," as the "Florenciâ Packers." (23RZ40, 23RZ43)"  be changed to read
"25. Until such time as our great nation is able to field our own teams in the respective leagues the following teams will be recognized as the Talossan National Teams.
25.1 The Green Bay Packers shall be Talossa's Official NFL Team, The Ziu officially authorises loyal Talossan citizens to refer to the team, heretofore known as the "Green Bay Packers," as the "Florenciâ Packers."
25.2 The Milwaukee Brewers shall be Talossa's Official MLB Team, the Ziu officially authorises loyal Talossan citizens to refer to the team, heretofore known as the "Milwaukee Brewers" as the "Maricopa Brewers"
25.3 The Milwaukee Bucks shall be Talossa's Official NBA Team, the Ziu officially authorises loyal Talossan citizens to refer to the team, heretofore known as the "Milwaukee Bucks" as the "Benito Bucks"
25.4 The Detroit Red Wings shall be Talossa's Official NHL Team, the Ziu officially authorises loyal Talossan citizens to refer to the team, heretofore known as the "Nashville Predators" as the "Cézembre Predators"

Also let section F paragraphs 32 and 33 be stricken from El Lexhatx.

This organizes all of our recognized national teams under one paragraph making them easier to locate. The Nashville Predators were chosen because our neighbors in Wisconsin may declare war on us if we chose either Chicago or Minnesota and because one member said he could not in good conscience root for the team from Detroit and I chose Cézembre because the geographically closer provinces already have teams.


Uréu q'estadra så:
Tric'hard Lenxheir (MC-TNC)
Tric'hard Lenxheir (Senator-TNC)

https://ibb.co/3z5vFjn][/url

Tric'hard Lenxheir

Quote from: Tric'hard Lenxheir on July 06, 2022, 08:09:57 AM
THE NAMING THE NATIONAL TEAMS ACT

Whereas El Lexhatx currently shows that we have National NFL, NBA and MLB teams but no NHL team and the former are named in separate sections (Section F paragraphs 25, 32 and 33 respectively). Let Section F Paragraph 25 which currently reads "25. The Green Bay Packers shall be Talossa's Official NFL Team, and it will remain so until such time as the nation is able to field its own NFL team to contest the American teams. The Ziu officially authorises loyal Talossan citizens to refer to the team, heretofore known as the "Green Bay Packers," as the "Florenciâ Packers." (23RZ40, 23RZ43)"  be changed to read
"25. Until such time as our great nation is able to field our own teams in the respective leagues the following teams will be recognized as the Talossan National Teams.
25.1 The Green Bay Packers shall be Talossa's Official NFL Team, The Ziu officially authorises loyal Talossan citizens to refer to the team, heretofore known as the "Green Bay Packers," as the "Florenciâ Packers."
25.2 The Milwaukee Brewers shall be Talossa's Official MLB Team, the Ziu officially authorises loyal Talossan citizens to refer to the team, heretofore known as the "Milwaukee Brewers" as the "Maricopa Brewers"
25.3 The Milwaukee Bucks shall be Talossa's Official NBA Team, the Ziu officially authorises loyal Talossan citizens to refer to the team, heretofore known as the "Milwaukee Bucks" as the "Benito Bucks"
25.4 The Detroit Red Wings shall be Talossa's Official NHL Team, the Ziu officially authorises loyal Talossan citizens to refer to the team, heretofore known as the "Nashville Predators" as the "Cézembre Predators"

Also let section F paragraphs 32 and 33 be stricken from El Lexhatx.

This organizes all of our recognized national teams under one paragraph making them easier to locate. The Nashville Predators were chosen because our neighbors in Wisconsin may declare war on us if we chose either Chicago or Minnesota and because one member said he could not in good conscience root for the team from Detroit and I chose Cézembre because the geographically closer provinces already have teams.


Uréu q'estadra så:
Tric'hard Lenxheir (MC-TNC)

This is rewritten with the suggestion of changing the NHL team.
Tric'hard Lenxheir (Senator-TNC)

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Mic’haglh Autófil, SMC EiP

Quote from: Tric'hard Lenxheir on July 06, 2022, 08:09:57 AM
THE NAMING THE NATIONAL TEAMS ACT

Whereas El Lexhatx currently shows that we have National NFL, NBA and MLB teams but no NHL team and the former are named in separate sections (Section F paragraphs 25, 32 and 33 respectively). Let Section F Paragraph 25 which currently reads "25. The Green Bay Packers shall be Talossa's Official NFL Team, and it will remain so until such time as the nation is able to field its own NFL team to contest the American teams. The Ziu officially authorises loyal Talossan citizens to refer to the team, heretofore known as the "Green Bay Packers," as the "Florenciâ Packers." (23RZ40, 23RZ43)"  be changed to read
"25. Until such time as our great nation is able to field our own teams in the respective leagues the following teams will be recognized as the Talossan National Teams.
25.1 The Green Bay Packers shall be Talossa's Official NFL Team, The Ziu officially authorises loyal Talossan citizens to refer to the team, heretofore known as the "Green Bay Packers," as the "Florenciâ Packers."
25.2 The Milwaukee Brewers shall be Talossa's Official MLB Team, the Ziu officially authorises loyal Talossan citizens to refer to the team, heretofore known as the "Milwaukee Brewers" as the "Maricopa Brewers"
25.3 The Milwaukee Bucks shall be Talossa's Official NBA Team, the Ziu officially authorises loyal Talossan citizens to refer to the team, heretofore known as the "Milwaukee Bucks" as the "Benito Bucks"
25.4 The Detroit Red Wings shall be Talossa's Official NHL Team, the Ziu officially authorises loyal Talossan citizens to refer to the team, heretofore known as the "Nashville Predators" as the "Cézembre Predators"

Also let section F paragraphs 32 and 33 be stricken from El Lexhatx.

This organizes all of our recognized national teams under one paragraph making them easier to locate. The Nashville Predators were chosen because our neighbors in Wisconsin may declare war on us if we chose either Chicago or Minnesota and because one member said he could not in good conscience root for the team from Detroit and I chose Cézembre because the geographically closer provinces already have teams.


Uréu q'estadra så:
Tric'hard Lenxheir (MC-TNC)

This still begins by referring to the Detroit Red Wings as the official NHL team of Talossa :P

A Mixed-Member Proportional Cosa is the future!
The Long Fellow, Royal Talossan College of Arms
Specialist, Els Zuávs da l'Altahál Rexhitál
Cäps Naziunal, Parti da Reformaziun

Tric'hard Lenxheir

Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil, MoFA on July 06, 2022, 01:15:30 PM
Quote from: Tric'hard Lenxheir on July 06, 2022, 08:09:57 AM
THE NAMING THE NATIONAL TEAMS ACT

Whereas El Lexhatx currently shows that we have National NFL, NBA and MLB teams but no NHL team and the former are named in separate sections (Section F paragraphs 25, 32 and 33 respectively). Let Section F Paragraph 25 which currently reads "25. The Green Bay Packers shall be Talossa's Official NFL Team, and it will remain so until such time as the nation is able to field its own NFL team to contest the American teams. The Ziu officially authorises loyal Talossan citizens to refer to the team, heretofore known as the "Green Bay Packers," as the "Florenciâ Packers." (23RZ40, 23RZ43)"  be changed to read
"25. Until such time as our great nation is able to field our own teams in the respective leagues the following teams will be recognized as the Talossan National Teams.
25.1 The Green Bay Packers shall be Talossa's Official NFL Team, The Ziu officially authorises loyal Talossan citizens to refer to the team, heretofore known as the "Green Bay Packers," as the "Florenciâ Packers."
25.2 The Milwaukee Brewers shall be Talossa's Official MLB Team, the Ziu officially authorises loyal Talossan citizens to refer to the team, heretofore known as the "Milwaukee Brewers" as the "Maricopa Brewers"
25.3 The Milwaukee Bucks shall be Talossa's Official NBA Team, the Ziu officially authorises loyal Talossan citizens to refer to the team, heretofore known as the "Milwaukee Bucks" as the "Benito Bucks"
25.4 The Detroit Red Wings shall be Talossa's Official NHL Team, the Ziu officially authorises loyal Talossan citizens to refer to the team, heretofore known as the "Nashville Predators" as the "Cézembre Predators"

Also let section F paragraphs 32 and 33 be stricken from El Lexhatx.

This organizes all of our recognized national teams under one paragraph making them easier to locate. The Nashville Predators were chosen because our neighbors in Wisconsin may declare war on us if we chose either Chicago or Minnesota and because one member said he could not in good conscience root for the team from Detroit and I chose Cézembre because the geographically closer provinces already have teams.


Uréu q'estadra så:
Tric'hard Lenxheir (MC-TNC)

This still begins by referring to the Detroit Red Wings as the official NHL team of Talossa :P

THE NAMING THE NATIONAL TEAMS ACT

Whereas El Lexhatx currently shows that we have National NFL, NBA and MLB teams but no NHL team and the former are named in separate sections (Section F paragraphs 25, 32 and 33 respectively). Let Section F Paragraph 25 which currently reads "25. The Green Bay Packers shall be Talossa's Official NFL Team, and it will remain so until such time as the nation is able to field its own NFL team to contest the American teams. The Ziu officially authorises loyal Talossan citizens to refer to the team, heretofore known as the "Green Bay Packers," as the "Florenciâ Packers." (23RZ40, 23RZ43)"  be changed to read
"25. Until such time as our great nation is able to field our own teams in the respective leagues the following teams will be recognized as the Talossan National Teams.
25.1 The Green Bay Packers shall be Talossa's Official NFL Team, The Ziu officially authorises loyal Talossan citizens to refer to the team, heretofore known as the "Green Bay Packers," as the "Florenciâ Packers."
25.2 The Milwaukee Brewers shall be Talossa's Official MLB Team, the Ziu officially authorises loyal Talossan citizens to refer to the team, heretofore known as the "Milwaukee Brewers" as the "Maricopa Brewers"
25.3 The Milwaukee Bucks shall be Talossa's Official NBA Team, the Ziu officially authorises loyal Talossan citizens to refer to the team, heretofore known as the "Milwaukee Bucks" as the "Benito Bucks"
25.4 The Nashville Predators shall be Talossa's Official NHL Team, the Ziu officially authorises loyal Talossan citizens to refer to the team, heretofore known as the "Nashville Predators" as the "Cézembre Predators"

Also let section F paragraphs 32 and 33 be stricken from El Lexhatx.

This organizes all of our recognized national teams under one paragraph making them easier to locate. The Nashville Predators were chosen because our neighbors in Wisconsin may declare war on us if we chose either Chicago or Minnesota and because one member said he could not in good conscience root for the team from Detroit and I chose Cézembre because the geographically closer provinces already have teams.


Uréu q'estadra så:
Tric'hard Lenxheir (MC-T

Fixed
Tric'hard Lenxheir (Senator-TNC)

https://ibb.co/3z5vFjn][/url

Ian Plätschisch

Since S:reu Lenxheir is not a member of the Talossan National Congress, this submission is not included in the FreeDem legislative boycott.

Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on July 10, 2022, 07:41:02 PM
Since S:reu Lenxheir is not a member of the Talossan National Congress, this submission is not included in the FreeDem legislative boycott.

MC Lenxheir is not an independent member of the Cosa. He is proposing this bill in his capacity as a holder of a Talossan National Congress seat in parliament. I am pleased to see that the boycott is either over or has become porous.


Distain, MC
Fighting the good fight

Ian Plätschisch

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on July 10, 2022, 08:03:18 PM
Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on July 10, 2022, 07:41:02 PM
Since S:reu Lenxheir is not a member of the Talossan National Congress, this submission is not included in the FreeDem legislative boycott.

MC Lenxheir is not an independent member of the Cosa. He is proposing this bill in his capacity as a holder of a Talossan National Congress seat in parliament. I am pleased to see that the boycott is either over or has become porous.
MC Lenxheir, unless I am hear from him to the contrary, is an independent who happens to be holding TNC seats.

Breneir Tzaracomprada

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Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on July 10, 2022, 08:37:25 PM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on July 10, 2022, 08:03:18 PM
Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on July 10, 2022, 07:41:02 PM
Since S:reu Lenxheir is not a member of the Talossan National Congress, this submission is not included in the FreeDem legislative boycott.

MC Lenxheir is not an independent member of the Cosa. He is proposing this bill in his capacity as a holder of a Talossan National Congress seat in parliament. I am pleased to see that the boycott is either over or has become porous.
MC Lenxheir, unless I am hear from him to the contrary, is an independent who happens to be holding TNC seats.

@Tric'hard Lenxheir   Can you help clear this misunderstanding?

This may be a politically expedient distinction but it does not have any basis in law.


Distain, MC
Fighting the good fight

Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

For myself, I consider that it's certainly a TNC seat, but MC Lenxheir isn't a member of the TNC.  And if splitting those hairs allows him to get his bills past the legislative blockade, all the better.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan


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