[Cantzelerïă/Chancery] Call for Bills for the May Clark / 58th Cosa

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King Txec

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on April 25, 2023, 11:23:40 AM
Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on April 25, 2023, 11:15:52 AM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on April 25, 2023, 10:24:15 AM
Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on May 25, 2022, 12:11:28 PM
Quote from: Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM on May 25, 2022, 10:34:15 AM
Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on May 23, 2022, 05:46:38 PMI would like to re-Clark the Compromise on the Compromise Amendment

I have two questions: 1) Has the bill passed the muster of the CRL? and, 2) What is the link to the bill so I can Clark the correct version.

Thanks.
1) Yes, it passed the CRL last term
2) https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=848.0

Mr. Secretary I would cite this as precedent where you allowed the bill in question above to be clarked without another approval of the CRL. Am I mistaken?

Please point me to the exact thread so I can review it. Thanks.

Here you go. https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=1458.msg12319#msg12319

The difference was that the Compromise on the Compromise was re-Clarked after failing in a previous Cosa. Was this bill Clarked last term?
TXEC R, by the Grace of God, King of Talossa and of all its Realms and Regions, King of Cézembre, Sovereign Lord and Protector of Pengöpäts and the New Falklands, Defender of the Faith, Leader of the Armed Forces, Viceroy of Hoxha and Vicar of Atatürk
    

King Txec

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on April 25, 2023, 11:40:44 AM
Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on April 25, 2023, 10:12:51 AM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on April 25, 2023, 10:06:57 AMAll three of my bills are separated parts of a single larger bill. I believe they each received full consideration, since the text is not different. I would ask you to reconsider, although this is completely your prerogative.

I'm more than happy to reconsider. Can you show me which bill these three new bills all stem from? Thanks.

The Legal Repair Amendment's language and the Appeals Act's language have been in the Hopper and received commentary and feedback for many months.
 As you can see from this post, it was being discussed in its current form a year ago, and reintroduced for this Cosa in February (with the same language as here) at this point: https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=1469.msg17327#msg17327

The Unsanctified Act was split off and considered separately as its own bill, but reintroduced unchanged in this Cosa: https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=1468.msg17328#msg17328

Thanks for the quick response. I'll Clark the three bills later today or tomorrow.
TXEC R, by the Grace of God, King of Talossa and of all its Realms and Regions, King of Cézembre, Sovereign Lord and Protector of Pengöpäts and the New Falklands, Defender of the Faith, Leader of the Armed Forces, Viceroy of Hoxha and Vicar of Atatürk
    

Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on April 25, 2023, 11:58:39 AM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on April 25, 2023, 11:23:40 AM
Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on April 25, 2023, 11:15:52 AM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on April 25, 2023, 10:24:15 AM
Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on May 25, 2022, 12:11:28 PM
Quote from: Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM on May 25, 2022, 10:34:15 AM
Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on May 23, 2022, 05:46:38 PMI would like to re-Clark the Compromise on the Compromise Amendment

I have two questions: 1) Has the bill passed the muster of the CRL? and, 2) What is the link to the bill so I can Clark the correct version.

Thanks.
1) Yes, it passed the CRL last term
2) https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=848.0

Mr. Secretary I would cite this as precedent where you allowed the bill in question above to be clarked without another approval of the CRL. Am I mistaken?

Please point me to the exact thread so I can review it. Thanks.

Here you go. https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=1458.msg12319#msg12319

The difference was that the Compromise on the Compromise was re-Clarked after failing in a previous Cosa. Was this bill Clarked last term?

This bill also was clarked and failed last term. There is no difference.
Leader, Green Party
---------------
Joy is that leaky bucket that lets me sometimes carry half a song. But what I intend for us, our claim, that joy is the justice we must give ourselves. -J. Drew Lanham

King Txec

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on April 25, 2023, 12:15:40 PM
Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on April 25, 2023, 11:58:39 AM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on April 25, 2023, 11:23:40 AM
Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on April 25, 2023, 11:15:52 AM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on April 25, 2023, 10:24:15 AM
Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on May 25, 2022, 12:11:28 PM
Quote from: Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM on May 25, 2022, 10:34:15 AM
Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on May 23, 2022, 05:46:38 PMI would like to re-Clark the Compromise on the Compromise Amendment

I have two questions: 1) Has the bill passed the muster of the CRL? and, 2) What is the link to the bill so I can Clark the correct version.

Thanks.
1) Yes, it passed the CRL last term
2) https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=848.0

Mr. Secretary I would cite this as precedent where you allowed the bill in question above to be clarked without another approval of the CRL. Am I mistaken?

Please point me to the exact thread so I can review it. Thanks.

Here you go. https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=1458.msg12319#msg12319

The difference was that the Compromise on the Compromise was re-Clarked after failing in a previous Cosa. Was this bill Clarked last term?

This bill also was clarked and failed last term. There is no difference.

Gotcha. I completely lost the thread and was talking about a different bill entirely. I do see it was Clarked last term and failed. I will get it Clarked as soon as I can.
TXEC R, by the Grace of God, King of Talossa and of all its Realms and Regions, King of Cézembre, Sovereign Lord and Protector of Pengöpäts and the New Falklands, Defender of the Faith, Leader of the Armed Forces, Viceroy of Hoxha and Vicar of Atatürk
    

Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on April 25, 2023, 12:27:51 PM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on April 25, 2023, 12:15:40 PM
Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on April 25, 2023, 11:58:39 AM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on April 25, 2023, 11:23:40 AM
Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on April 25, 2023, 11:15:52 AM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on April 25, 2023, 10:24:15 AM
Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on May 25, 2022, 12:11:28 PM
Quote from: Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM on May 25, 2022, 10:34:15 AM
Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on May 23, 2022, 05:46:38 PMI would like to re-Clark the Compromise on the Compromise Amendment

I have two questions: 1) Has the bill passed the muster of the CRL? and, 2) What is the link to the bill so I can Clark the correct version.

Thanks.
1) Yes, it passed the CRL last term
2) https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=848.0

Mr. Secretary I would cite this as precedent where you allowed the bill in question above to be clarked without another approval of the CRL. Am I mistaken?

Please point me to the exact thread so I can review it. Thanks.

Here you go. https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=1458.msg12319#msg12319

The difference was that the Compromise on the Compromise was re-Clarked after failing in a previous Cosa. Was this bill Clarked last term?

This bill also was clarked and failed last term. There is no difference.

Gotcha. I completely lost the thread and was talking about a different bill entirely. I do see it was Clarked last term and failed. I will get it Clarked as soon as I can.

Thank you Mr. Secretary!
Leader, Green Party
---------------
Joy is that leaky bucket that lets me sometimes carry half a song. But what I intend for us, our claim, that joy is the justice we must give ourselves. -J. Drew Lanham

Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on April 25, 2023, 12:02:48 PM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on April 25, 2023, 11:40:44 AM
Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on April 25, 2023, 10:12:51 AM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on April 25, 2023, 10:06:57 AMAll three of my bills are separated parts of a single larger bill. I believe they each received full consideration, since the text is not different. I would ask you to reconsider, although this is completely your prerogative.

I'm more than happy to reconsider. Can you show me which bill these three new bills all stem from? Thanks.

The Legal Repair Amendment's language and the Appeals Act's language have been in the Hopper and received commentary and feedback for many months.
 As you can see from this post, it was being discussed in its current form a year ago, and reintroduced for this Cosa in February (with the same language as here) at this point: https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=1469.msg17327#msg17327

The Unsanctified Act was split off and considered separately as its own bill, but reintroduced unchanged in this Cosa: https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=1468.msg17328#msg17328

Thanks for the quick response. I'll Clark the three bills later today or tomorrow.
Thank you for your diligence.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan

                   

King Txec

RZ11 - The Cjovani Ziua Auservada Bill
RZ12 - The Appeals Act
RZ13 - The Legal Repair Amendment
RZ14 - The Unsanctified Act
RZ15 - The Second Catchment Area Reform Act
RZ16 - SoS Succession Reform Act

All of the above have been Clarked.
TXEC R, by the Grace of God, King of Talossa and of all its Realms and Regions, King of Cézembre, Sovereign Lord and Protector of Pengöpäts and the New Falklands, Defender of the Faith, Leader of the Armed Forces, Viceroy of Hoxha and Vicar of Atatürk
    

Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

I apologize for the trouble, but would you remove the Appeals Act from the Clark?  Luc believes it didn't go through regular order, entertaining many of your same doubts, and I want everything to be on the up-and-up.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan

                   

King Txec

I've never actually removed a bill so I will have to get the help of MPF as I don't have that ability myself.
TXEC R, by the Grace of God, King of Talossa and of all its Realms and Regions, King of Cézembre, Sovereign Lord and Protector of Pengöpäts and the New Falklands, Defender of the Faith, Leader of the Armed Forces, Viceroy of Hoxha and Vicar of Atatürk
    

Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on April 26, 2023, 08:27:25 AMI've never actually removed a bill so I will have to get the help of MPF as I don't have that ability myself.
I apologize for the hassle.  Can we officially consider it withdrawn, even if it technically runs on the Clark, either way?
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan

                   

King Txec

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on April 26, 2023, 10:38:44 AM
Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on April 26, 2023, 08:27:25 AMI've never actually removed a bill so I will have to get the help of MPF as I don't have that ability myself.
I apologize for the hassle.  Can we officially consider it withdrawn, even if it technically runs on the Clark, either way?

That was my thinking if I'm unable to actually remove it in time.
TXEC R, by the Grace of God, King of Talossa and of all its Realms and Regions, King of Cézembre, Sovereign Lord and Protector of Pengöpäts and the New Falklands, Defender of the Faith, Leader of the Armed Forces, Viceroy of Hoxha and Vicar of Atatürk
    

Üc R. Tärfă

Piedéu qe acestilor proxhets estadra insertats in el próxim Clark: / I ask for the followings to be clarked:

- Ün proxhet per regular els Prüms Diktats

- Ün proxhet per inovar el CRL

Üc Rêntz'ëfiglheu Tärfâ
Membreu dal Cosă | Distain Grefieir d'Abbavilla
FREEDEMS President | Presedint dels Democrätici Livereschti
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Breneir Tzaracomprada

Hello Mr. Secretary, now that the CRL has approved I am submitting the National Skills and Social Connections Survey Act: https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=2370.0
Leader, Green Party
---------------
Joy is that leaky bucket that lets me sometimes carry half a song. But what I intend for us, our claim, that joy is the justice we must give ourselves. -J. Drew Lanham

King Txec

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on April 26, 2023, 10:38:44 AM
Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on April 26, 2023, 08:27:25 AMI've never actually removed a bill so I will have to get the help of MPF as I don't have that ability myself.
I apologize for the hassle.  Can we officially consider it withdrawn, even if it technically runs on the Clark, either way?

The Appeals Act has been removed from the Clark.
TXEC R, by the Grace of God, King of Talossa and of all its Realms and Regions, King of Cézembre, Sovereign Lord and Protector of Pengöpäts and the New Falklands, Defender of the Faith, Leader of the Armed Forces, Viceroy of Hoxha and Vicar of Atatürk
    

Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on April 28, 2023, 10:58:15 AM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on April 26, 2023, 10:38:44 AM
Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on April 26, 2023, 08:27:25 AMI've never actually removed a bill so I will have to get the help of MPF as I don't have that ability myself.
I apologize for the hassle.  Can we officially consider it withdrawn, even if it technically runs on the Clark, either way?

The Appeals Act has been removed from the Clark.
Thank you!  I apologize for the hassle.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan

                   

King Txec

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on April 28, 2023, 11:24:58 AM
Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on April 28, 2023, 10:58:15 AM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on April 26, 2023, 10:38:44 AM
Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on April 26, 2023, 08:27:25 AMI've never actually removed a bill so I will have to get the help of MPF as I don't have that ability myself.
I apologize for the hassle.  Can we officially consider it withdrawn, even if it technically runs on the Clark, either way?

The Appeals Act has been removed from the Clark.
Thank you!  I apologize for the hassle.

Not so much a problem as another shortfall of the current database.
TXEC R, by the Grace of God, King of Talossa and of all its Realms and Regions, King of Cézembre, Sovereign Lord and Protector of Pengöpäts and the New Falklands, Defender of the Faith, Leader of the Armed Forces, Viceroy of Hoxha and Vicar of Atatürk