2023 Talossan Music Top 20 [Final Voting]

[Sir Ian Plätschisch]

Lots of tough choices (Group 1 is stacked, in b4 Lüc calls it weak)

[Tric’hard Lenxheir]

Group 1

4. Ozzy Osbourne-Crazy Train
3. Queen-Don't Stop Me Now
2. Whiskey Myers-On The River
1. Elton John-I'm Still Standing

Group 2

4. Charlie Daniels Band-Devil Went Down To Georgia
3. Queen-Bohemian Rhapsody
2. Dire Straits-Telegraph Road
1. Deep Purple-Child In Time

Group 3

4. Black Sabbath-Paranoid
3. Pink Floyd-Wish You Were Here
2. Led Zeppelin-Kashmir
1. Fleetwood Mac-The Chain

[xpb]

GROUP 1
4 Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy Train
3 Falco - Der Kommissar
2 Queen - Don't Stop Me Now
1 Dropkick Murphys - I'm Shipping Up To Boston

GROUP 2
4 Dire Straits - Telegraph Road
3 Peter Gabriel - Solsbury Hill
2 Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody
1 Depeche Model - Enjoy the Silence

GROUP 3
4 Dave Brubeck Quartet - Take Five
3 Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
2 Queen and David Bowie - Under Pressure
1 Talking Heads - Once in a Lifetime

[Glüc]

Group 1: Well I'm not Lüc but yeah, compared to what's too come, this group isn't nearly strong enough. Still good songs of course and difficult choices to make, but based on what's left almost certainly the weakest group this round.

Santé - 4
Blue Monday - 3
Der Kommissar - 2
Africa - 1


Group 2: Stacked. Only 1 point for Telegraph Road and nothing for Bohemian Rhapsody, Enjoy the Silence, or Solsbury Hill!!! Songs in this group got a combined 25 points from me in round 2. Now I have only 10...

Paranoid Android - 4
The Universal - 3
Child in Time - 2
Telegraph Road - 1

Group 3:

Once in a Lifetime - 4
The Chain - 3
Sweet Dreams - 2
Kashmir - 1

I suspect the remaing two groups are gonna be really strong as well.

[þerxh Sant-Enogat]

GROUP 1
4- New Order - Blue Monday             
3- Falco - Der Kommissar
2- Queen - Don't Stop Me Now
1- Stromae - Santé

GROUP 2
4- Radiohead - Paranoid Android         
3- Depeche Mode - Enjoy the Silence   
2- Muse - Uprising                     
1- Peter Gabriel - Solsbury Hill

GROUP 3
4- Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here       
3- Foo Fighters - Everlong               
2- Talking Heads - Once in a Lifetime     
1- Queen and David Bowie - Under Pressure

[Gjermund Higraff]

Lots of tough choices (Group 1 is stacked, in b4 Lüc calls it weak)

Group 1 *is* weak, Group 2 is stacked 😁


GROUP 1
4 - Toto - Africa
3 - Stromae - Santé
2 - New Order - Blue Monday
1 - Dropkick Murphys - I'm Shipping Up To Boston

GROUP 2
4 - Blur - The Universal
3 - Dire Straits - Telegraph Road
2 - Depeche Model - Enjoy the Silence
1 - Peter Gabriel - Solsbury Hill

GROUP 3
4 - Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
3 - Queen and David Bowie - Under Pressure
2 - Dave Brubeck Quartet - Take Five
1 - Led Zeppelin - Kashmir

[Placiej]

GROUP 1
3 Crosby, Stills and Nash - Southern Cross
2 Dropkick Murphys - I'm Shipping Up To Boston
1 Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy Train
4 Whiskey Myers - On The River

GROUP 2
2 Blur - The Universal
4 Charlie Daniels Band - The Devil Went    Down to Georgia
3 Depeche Model - Enjoy the Silence
1 Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody


GROUP 3
2 Doobie Brothers - Long Train Runnin'
4 Foo Fighters - Everlong
1 Led Zeppelin - Kashmir
3 Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here

[Bråneu Excelsio, UrN]

GROUP 1
4 New Order - Blue Monday
3 Elton John - I'm Still Standing
2 Queen - Don't Stop Me Now
1 Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy Train

Group 2

4 Depeche Model - Enjoy the Silence
3 Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody
2 Dire Straits - Telegraph Road
1 Radiohead - Paranoid Android


GROUP 3
4 Talking Heads - Once in a Lifetime
3 Dave Brubeck Quartet - Take Five
2 Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)
1 Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here

[Baron Alexandreu Davinescu]

Time to bring this out again

Is this on the wiki?  We need to start memorializing some of these years-long traditions.

[Sir Lüc]

All three groups are varying degrees of strong to me, and no doubt at least one of 4 and 5 will be strong too. I thought the toughest choice was in group 2, but group 3 turned out to be much more difficult to vote on. Group 1 also has a few personal favourites that I doubt will make it through.
So carnage is coming, but at this stage of the tournament that's pretty much inevitable, as personal favourites have a tougher time against stronger popular picks, when the field narrows down and especially when a fair number survived this far.

GROUP 1
4 - Africa
3 - Der Kommissar
2 - Santé
1 - I'm Still Standing

GROUP 2
4 - Telegraph Road
3 - Child in Time
2 - Bohemian Rhapsody
1 - I Will Survive

GROUP 3
4 - Under Pressure
3 - Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)
2 - Paranoid
1 - Kashmir

[Sir Ian Plätschisch]

GROUP 1
4. I'm Shipping up to Boston
3. Crazy Train
2. On the River
1. Don't Stop Me Now

GROUP 2
4. Devil went down to Georgia
3. Uprising
2. I will survive
1. Telegraph Road

GROUP 3
4. Long Train Runnin
3. Everlong
2. The Chain
1. Paranoid

[Erschéveþ da Schir]

GROUP 1
4- Elton John - I'm Still Standing
3- Toto - Africa
2- Queen - Don't Stop Me Now
1- Falco - Der Kommissar

GROUP 2
4- Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody
3- Dire Straits - Telegraph Road
2- Gloria Gaynor - I Will Survive
1- Muse - Uprising

GROUP 3
4- Queen and David Bowie - Under Pressure
3- Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)
2- Led Zeppelin - Kashmir
1- Black Sabbath - Paranoid

[Glüc]

10 votes, nice

Ian, any chance there will be a top 20 broadcast?

[Sir Ian Plätschisch]

Time to bring this out again

Is this on the wiki?  We need to start memorializing some of these years-long traditions.

Are you saying the infographic would enhance the TMT20 page, or that the infographic itself is a "years-long tradition"?

[Sir Ian Plätschisch]

10 votes, nice

Ian, any chance there will be a top 20 broadcast?

The plan is to have it on election night, although I haven't confirmed that I'll be available then

[Sir Ian Plätschisch]

GROUP 1
1. Blue Monday - 13 (one 2-point vote)
2. Crazy Train - 13 (no 2-point votes)
3. Africa - 12 (two 4-point votes)
4. Der Kommissar - 12 (no 4-point votes, three 3-point votes)
5. Don't Stop Me Now - 12 (no 4-point votes, one 3-point vote)
6. Santé - 10
7. I'm Still Standing - 9
8. On The River - 8 (two 2-point votes)
9. I'm Shipping Up To Boston - 8 (one 2-point vote)
10. Southern Cross - 3

GROUP 2
1. Telegraph Road - 20
2. Bohemian Rhapsody - 15
3. Enjoy the Silence - 13
4. The Devil Went Down to Georgia - 12
5. Paranoid Android - 9 (two 4-point votes)
6. The Universal - 9 (one 4-point vote)
7. Uprising - 6 (R2 PPV = 1.286)
8. Child in Time - 6 (R2 PPV = 1.250)
9. Solsbury Hill - 5 (one 3-point vote)
10. I Will Survive - 5 (no 3-point votes)

GROUP 3
1. Wish You Were Here - 18
2. Under Pressure - 14
3. Once in a Lifetime - 11
4. Everlong - 10 (one 4-point vote)
5. Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This) - 10 (no 4-point votes)
6. Take Five - 9
7. Paranoid - 8 (one 4-point vote)
8. Kashmir - 8 (no 4-point votes)
9. Long Train Runnin' - 6 (one 4-point vote)
10. The Chain - 6 (no 4-point votes)

[Sir Ian Plätschisch]

TMT20 ROUND 3

Round 3 consists of five groups of ten songs each. The top five songs from each group advance according to the flowchart above. Groups are drawn randomly in such a way that each group contains two 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th place songs from Round 2.

We will vote on groups 1, 2, and 3 and then groups 4 and 5. Each voting period will last three days (72 hours). Votes cast after that will not be accepted, with the exception that we will always keep going until we have at least three votes per group.

Give your top four songs 4, 3, 2, and 1 points, respectively. You must give points to exactly three or four songs (awarding the 1-point vote is optional).

GROUP 4
David Bowie - Starman
Earth, Wind and Fire - September
Editors - Smokers Outside the Hospital Doors
Johnny Cash - Hurt
Nickelback - How You Remind Me
Queen - Killer Queen
Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil
Rolling Stones - You Can't Always Get What You Want
Smiths - How Soon is Now?
The Who - Baba O'Riley

GROUP 5
Alan Parsons Project - Sirius/Eye In The Sky
Blue Öyster Cult - Burnin' For You
Bon Jovi - You Give Love a Bad Name
Derek and the Dominos - Layla
Dire Straits - Sultans Of Swing
Gaelic Storm - One More Day Above the Roses
Muse - Knights of Cydonia
Police - Message in a Bottle
Radiohead - Street Spirit (Fade Out)
Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter

Tiebreakers:
- Number of voters giving 4 points
- Number of voters giving 3 points
- Number of voters giving 2 points
- PPV in Round 2
- Last year's result (1 > 2 > ... > 20 > Round 4 > Round 3 > Round 2 > other)
- PPV in Round 1 (if applicable)
- Random chance

Tactical voting refers to either giving more points than you normally would to a song because it would make the difference between it going through or getting eliminated, or giving fewer points than you normally would to a song because it might kick a song you like even more out of the competition. This is hard to prevent, but my very strong request would be to not do it. Give points to the songs you believe deserve to go through, regardless of how others are voting. Doing otherwise reduces the value of votes that came before you, which is unfair to them. Remember that it's not a competition between voters, but a collective effort to make a nice list of songs we like. Thanks.

I did my best with all the links but there is always a chance some are broken or have a wrong version or bad audio quality. If a link is broken or you have a suggestion for a better link, please contact me or post the link in the thread. Officially, we are not voting on the YouTube link, but on the listed Artist + Title.

COMMENTARY ON THE PROGRESS OF THE GAME, THE RULES, WHAT SONGS YOU LIKE, ETC., IS VERY WELCOME.

[Bråneu Excelsio, UrN]

GROUP 4
4 Johnny Cash - Hurt
2 Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil
3 Smiths - How Soon is Now?
1The Who - Baba O'Riley


GROUP 5
2 Alan Parsons Project - Sirius/Eye In The Sky
4 Bon Jovi - You Give Love a Bad Name
1 Muse - Knights of Cydonia
3 Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter


Group 4 is my favorite group ever.

[Tric’hard Lenxheir]

Group 4

4. Johnny Cash-Hurt
3. The Who-Baba O'Riley
2. Queen-Killer Queen
1. Earth, Wind and Fire-September

Group 5

4. Dire Straits-Sultans Of Swing
3. Blue Oyster Cult-Burning For You
2. Alan Parsons Project-Sirius/Eye In The Sky
1. Gaelic Storm-One More Day Above The Roses

[Glüc]

As expected, two more really strong groups where some obvious top 20 worthy songs will have to do with 2 points or in group 3 even 1 point. I just really hope at least one 4 pointer makes it to the final this time.

4 Smokers
3 Sympathy for the Devil
2 How Soon Is Now?
1 You Cant Always Get What You Want

4 Street Spirit
3 Knights
2 Gimme Shelter
1 Sultans