The Nonpartisan SoS Act

Started by Breneir Tzaracomprada, December 02, 2023, 07:16:16 PM

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Breneir Tzaracomprada

#20
A couple quick updates.
We are a week out now from the period when Txec began his own considerations on creating an internal Chancery policy concerning the taking of partisan positions. No update yet but hopeful.
Senator Mximo is positively inclined toward taking on sponsorship as he supports the initiative. The TNC is currently in a week-long vote on their official stance on the bill, according to my last communication with him.

"Clearly we're not ostracizing this guy hard enough." -Miestra Schiva
"I refuse to work with you on this or any matter in Talossa." -Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir
"If I were running a party, it would be the Brenéir Can Kiss My Ciol party." -Dien
"Breneir Tzaracomprada is a sex pest and harasser." -Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP

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"Clearly we're not ostracizing this guy hard enough." -Miestra Schiva
"I refuse to work with you on this or any matter in Talossa." -Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir
"If I were running a party, it would be the Brenéir Can Kiss My Ciol party." -Dien
"Breneir Tzaracomprada is a sex pest and harasser." -Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP

Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on December 10, 2023, 02:34:07 PMSenator Mximo is positively inclined toward taking on sponsorship as he supports the initiative. The TNC is currently in a week-long vote on their official stance on the bill, according to my last communication with him.

Another update, to the best of my knowledge, the TNC internal vote was in support of the bill, in support of allowing Mximo to sponsor, or both. Just waiting on a sponsor now.

"Clearly we're not ostracizing this guy hard enough." -Miestra Schiva
"I refuse to work with you on this or any matter in Talossa." -Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir
"If I were running a party, it would be the Brenéir Can Kiss My Ciol party." -Dien
"Breneir Tzaracomprada is a sex pest and harasser." -Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP

Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC

That's interesting; from what sources is a former member getting info on TNC internal discussions?

¡LADINTSCHIÇETZ-VOI - rogetz-mhe cacsa!
"They proved me right, they proved me wrong, but they could never last this long"

Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on December 20, 2023, 02:48:35 PMThat's interesting; from what sources is a former member getting info on TNC internal discussions?

That's a great question, Miestra.

"Clearly we're not ostracizing this guy hard enough." -Miestra Schiva
"I refuse to work with you on this or any matter in Talossa." -Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir
"If I were running a party, it would be the Brenéir Can Kiss My Ciol party." -Dien
"Breneir Tzaracomprada is a sex pest and harasser." -Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP

Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC

"I'M IN YOUR BASE KILLING RECRUITING YOUR D00DS" - Brenéir to Bråneu and Þerxh :D


¡LADINTSCHIÇETZ-VOI - rogetz-mhe cacsa!
"They proved me right, they proved me wrong, but they could never last this long"

Breneir Tzaracomprada

#26
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on December 21, 2023, 01:16:21 PM"I'M IN YOUR BASE KILLING RECRUITING YOUR D00DS" - Brenéir to Bråneu and Þerxh :D



This is cute but I am still wondering who will sponsor the draft bill.
To my TNC friends, please consider your support for this reasonable effort. I am not privy to your discussions but the outcome appears to have been positive.

"Clearly we're not ostracizing this guy hard enough." -Miestra Schiva
"I refuse to work with you on this or any matter in Talossa." -Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir
"If I were running a party, it would be the Brenéir Can Kiss My Ciol party." -Dien
"Breneir Tzaracomprada is a sex pest and harasser." -Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP

Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on December 21, 2023, 04:17:58 PM
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on December 21, 2023, 01:16:21 PM"I'M IN YOUR BASE KILLING RECRUITING YOUR D00DS" - Brenéir to Bråneu and Þerxh :D



This is cute but I am still wondering who will sponsor the draft bill.
To my TNC friends, please consider your support for this reasonable effort. I am not privy to your discussions but the outcome appears to have been positive.

@Þerxh @Bråneu Excelsio @mximo
Let's please move forward with this reasonable effort.

"Clearly we're not ostracizing this guy hard enough." -Miestra Schiva
"I refuse to work with you on this or any matter in Talossa." -Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir
"If I were running a party, it would be the Brenéir Can Kiss My Ciol party." -Dien
"Breneir Tzaracomprada is a sex pest and harasser." -Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP

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@Iason Taiwos would you be willing to sponsor this legislation?

"Clearly we're not ostracizing this guy hard enough." -Miestra Schiva
"I refuse to work with you on this or any matter in Talossa." -Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir
"If I were running a party, it would be the Brenéir Can Kiss My Ciol party." -Dien
"Breneir Tzaracomprada is a sex pest and harasser." -Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP

mximo

Senator Mximo Carbonèl
Sponsor this bill

Thank You
Mximo Carbonèl
Senator from Florencia

Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: mximo on December 23, 2023, 08:17:50 PMSenator Mximo Carbonèl
Sponsor this bill

Thank You

Mximo, thank you, meirci, and merci.
I would corral many more languages but it would still be insufficient in expressing my gratitude.

"Clearly we're not ostracizing this guy hard enough." -Miestra Schiva
"I refuse to work with you on this or any matter in Talossa." -Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir
"If I were running a party, it would be the Brenéir Can Kiss My Ciol party." -Dien
"Breneir Tzaracomprada is a sex pest and harasser." -Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP

Breneir Tzaracomprada

#31
@mximo I think this bill is ready for the CRL. It can be submitted as a new thread here: https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?board=40.0

Correction: I think it has a few more days (ready for CRL on Jan 3)

"Clearly we're not ostracizing this guy hard enough." -Miestra Schiva
"I refuse to work with you on this or any matter in Talossa." -Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir
"If I were running a party, it would be the Brenéir Can Kiss My Ciol party." -Dien
"Breneir Tzaracomprada is a sex pest and harasser." -Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP

mximo

Im not sure I can do it by myself.

Mximo
Mximo Carbonèl
Senator from Florencia

Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: mximo on December 31, 2023, 03:47:50 PMIm not sure I can do it by myself.

Mximo

If the CRL allows it then I am happy to help make the post.

"Clearly we're not ostracizing this guy hard enough." -Miestra Schiva
"I refuse to work with you on this or any matter in Talossa." -Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir
"If I were running a party, it would be the Brenéir Can Kiss My Ciol party." -Dien
"Breneir Tzaracomprada is a sex pest and harasser." -Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP

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#34
Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on January 06, 2024, 09:09:45 PMI'm a little concerned that the portion about party offices is too vague. For example, what counts as a "leadership position"? One could envisage many positions with party responsibilities that may or may not be considered "leadership".

Also, is a "political party" defined as an entity that registered in the previous election, an entity that has Cosa seats, or with some other definition?

@mximo As the sponsor I wanted to get your input in addressing his concerns.
Would you support specifying a "national political party office(s) similar in function and purpose to party president (leader), party treasurer, or party secretary"?
Also, political party would be specified as political parties currently registered with the Chancery?

"Clearly we're not ostracizing this guy hard enough." -Miestra Schiva
"I refuse to work with you on this or any matter in Talossa." -Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir
"If I were running a party, it would be the Brenéir Can Kiss My Ciol party." -Dien
"Breneir Tzaracomprada is a sex pest and harasser." -Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP

mximo

I still think a SOS shoud be ban to be in any political party...

This is my opinion.

Now they try to broke the comprise you try to make by tell us this to vague...

Mximo...
Mximo Carbonèl
Senator from Florencia

Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: mximo on January 06, 2024, 11:31:01 PMI still think a SOS shoud be ban to be in any political party...

This is my opinion.

Now they try to broke the comprise you try to make by tell us this to vague...

Mximo...

My concern is that banning party membership may be too broad and be too high a restriction. And lessens the potential support for the law.

Despite assertions to the contrary, this proposal is in response to a precedent where the nation's election administrator acts as both chief of one of the contestants and contest oversight.

We are trying to reassert a national interest here: the nation's interest in a non-conflicted and impartial election administrator. In order to achieve that interest here it may be better to narrowly define the restrictions. This is why I have pushed for restrictions, with respect to the parties, only on "national leadership positions or party offices" because the SoS runs elections primarily at the national level.

I am assuming Ian has presented these concerns in good faith. And hoping that responding with changes addressing those concerns demonstrates good faith on my part.

"Clearly we're not ostracizing this guy hard enough." -Miestra Schiva
"I refuse to work with you on this or any matter in Talossa." -Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir
"If I were running a party, it would be the Brenéir Can Kiss My Ciol party." -Dien
"Breneir Tzaracomprada is a sex pest and harasser." -Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP

Breneir Tzaracomprada


"Clearly we're not ostracizing this guy hard enough." -Miestra Schiva
"I refuse to work with you on this or any matter in Talossa." -Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir
"If I were running a party, it would be the Brenéir Can Kiss My Ciol party." -Dien
"Breneir Tzaracomprada is a sex pest and harasser." -Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP

Sir Lüc

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on January 11, 2024, 10:29:21 AM@Sir Lüc https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=2902.msg24574#new
Thanks bae <3

Just to be clear, my intention (both in the initial post and the bump) was to ask for comments from all stakeholders before imposing a new rule, rather than imposing such a rule unilaterally.

What I meant in the bump message was that it occurred to me that my proposal would also solve the difficulties encountered by the Senator for Florencia in moving the bill to committee, since then a CRL member would take care of moving it to the right subboard on his behalf.
Sir Lüc da Schir, UrB
Secretary of State / Secretar d'Estat

Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: Sir Lüc on January 11, 2024, 11:31:27 AM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on January 11, 2024, 10:29:21 AM@Sir Lüc https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=2902.msg24574#new
Thanks bae <3

Just to be clear, my intention (both in the initial post and the bump) was to ask for comments from all stakeholders before imposing a new rule, rather than imposing such a rule unilaterally.

What I meant in the bump message was that it occurred to me that my proposal would also solve the difficulties encountered by the Senator for Florencia in moving the bill to committee, since then a CRL member would take care of moving it to the right subboard on his behalf.

@Sir Lüc Thank you!

"Clearly we're not ostracizing this guy hard enough." -Miestra Schiva
"I refuse to work with you on this or any matter in Talossa." -Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir
"If I were running a party, it would be the Brenéir Can Kiss My Ciol party." -Dien
"Breneir Tzaracomprada is a sex pest and harasser." -Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP