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Started by Miestră Schivă, UrN, June 06, 2024, 08:10:44 PM

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Miestră Schivă, UrN

¡AVANT! - THE MULTIPARTY ACCORD


The outgoing Government of Talossa was marked by infighting and inactivity.

The party which formed that Government is no more; but many of the people involved are standing again, for new parties. They are not taking responsibility for what went wrong, or giving real answers why it won't happen again.

Talossa needs a serious and broad-based alternative to that.

The undersigned parties agree:
   
  • to be each other's preferred partners for government in the 60th Cosa.
  • to ensure that there will be a new King of Talossa before the end of the 60th Cosa, who will be culturally active, non-political, and friendly to all shades of Talossan opinion.
  • to start a wide-ranging and open-ended discussion on Talossa's Organic Law and constitutional structure, in which each party will promote its own preferences.
  • to set up a process for thorough reform of provincial assignments for new citizens.
  • to encourage and participate in cross-party co-operation on other matters of broad consensus, such as replacing the Database.

Signed:
Civic Outreach For Fun & Enjoyable Events
Free Democrats of Talossa
Parti da Reformaziun


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Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on June 06, 2024, 08:10:44 PMto start a wide-ranging and open-ended discussion on Talossa's Organic Law and constitutional structure, in which each party will promote its own preferences.

I applaud the parties on this accord but hope we will not see a re-run of the private Standing Committee blocking legislation from a Ziu vote. The leaders of two of the three member parties in this alliance need to promise this will not happen again. Hopefully open-ended means "open to the public" as well. Open Society would participate in that kind of effort and we believe that is what the Talossan people deserve.

Glüc da Dhi S.H.

On the assignment reform thing: again, why?

Every time we disturb catchment areas we are preventing any sort of unique provincial identity based on geography, which already takes years, if not decades, to build anyway.

Even worse if the idea is to make all provinces equally balanced in 'american'/'rest of the world', making provinces more similar than they already are.

Is this something the FreeDems truly believe is a good idea or just a concession to the pdr?
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Miestră Schivă, UrN

Quote from: Glüc da Dhi S.H. on June 07, 2024, 01:10:27 AMOn the assignment reform thing: again, why?

Every time we disturb catchment areas we are preventing any sort of unique provincial identity based on geography, which already takes years, if not decades, to build anyway.

Even worse if the idea is to make all provinces equally balanced in 'american'/'rest of the world', making provinces more similar than they already are.

Is this something the FreeDems truly believe is a good idea or just a concession to the pdr?

Because of the gerrymandering inherent in Vuode being so underpopular, the question is *either* even it up so that Vuode becomes less of a ghost province, *or* take that out of the equation by ceasing to give each province even Senäts representation. And the latter is a bigger can of worms, but we can do it that way if there's broad support

Vote THE FREE DEMOCRATS OF TALOSSA
¡LADINTSCHIÇETZ-VOI - rogetz-mhe cacsa!
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Dame Litz Cjantscheir, UrN

#4
I agree with S:reu da Dhi's caution regarding the redrawing of provincial assignment catchment areas. The unpredictable nature of immigration applications and the completion rate of these applications make it challenging to design a process that respects the unique provincial identities based on geography while maintaining a balanced immigration rate for each province. Inevitably, there will always be an underdog, regardless of how much we adjust the catchment areas.

However, I believe we should investigate the factual reasons behind Vuode's underpopulation and explore measures to promote immigration within the current catchment areas before considering redrawing the lines. Potential initiatives (and these are just suggestions) could include targeted advertising campaigns in these areas, a "fast track" citizenship process for applications from these regions, or specific measures to promote activity in "ghost provinces."

Moreover, I disagree with the notion that we must choose between catchment or Senäts representation reform. I think we can explore both options. I feel we need to move away from a US-modelled Ziu towards a structure more suited and representative of the Talossa of today.
Litz Cjantscheir LLB, LLM
Senior Justice/Judge of the Cort Pü Inalt

Breneir Tzaracomprada

#5
Does Avant plan to also support Open Society's effort on an apolitical Chancery/Civil Service?

Miestră Schivă, UrN


Quote from: Dame Litz Cjantscheir, UrN on June 07, 2024, 06:09:09 AMI disagree with the notion that we must choose between catchment or Senäts representation reform. I think we can explore both options. I feel we need to move away from a US-modelled Ziu towards a structure more suited and representative of the Talossa of today.

That's an unexpected but welcome opening to the idea of constitutional reform. I certainly hope the IND Party will be part of the wide-ranging and open-ended OrgLaw discussion we hope to open.

Vote THE FREE DEMOCRATS OF TALOSSA
¡LADINTSCHIÇETZ-VOI - rogetz-mhe cacsa!
"They proved me right, they proved me wrong, but they could never last this long"

Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on June 07, 2024, 08:25:50 AMDoes Avant plan to also support Open Society's effort on an apolitical Chancery/Civil Service?

þerxh Sant-Enogat

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on June 07, 2024, 03:13:35 PM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on June 07, 2024, 08:25:50 AMDoes Avant plan to also support Open Society's effort on an apolitical Chancery/Civil Service?
Now that everybody and their aunt are Party Leaders, who will be allowed to take over from Sir Txec ?
þerxh Sant-Enogat, SMC, MC
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Túischac'h dal 60:éă Cosă,
Duceu pareßel dal Aliançù Progreßïu

Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB

Quote from: þerxh Sant-Enogat on June 07, 2024, 03:31:34 PM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on June 07, 2024, 03:13:35 PM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on June 07, 2024, 08:25:50 AMDoes Avant plan to also support Open Society's effort on an apolitical Chancery/Civil Service?
Now that everybody and their aunt are Party Leaders, who will be allowed to take over from Sir Txec ?

Am I going somewhere?
Sir Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, UrB, GST, O.SPM, SMM
Secretár d'Estat
Guaír del Sabor Talossan
The Squirrel Viceroy of Arms, The Rouge Elephant Herald, RTCoA
Cunstaval da Vuode
Justice Emeritus of the Uppermost Cort
Former Seneschal

Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: þerxh Sant-Enogat on June 07, 2024, 03:31:34 PM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on June 07, 2024, 03:13:35 PM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on June 07, 2024, 08:25:50 AMDoes Avant plan to also support Open Society's effort on an apolitical Chancery/Civil Service?
Now that everybody and their aunt are Party Leaders, who will be allowed to take over from Sir Txec ?
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on June 07, 2024, 03:13:35 PM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on June 07, 2024, 08:25:50 AMDoes Avant plan to also support Open Society's effort on an apolitical Chancery/Civil Service?

Quote from: þerxh Sant-Enogat on June 07, 2024, 03:31:34 PM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on June 07, 2024, 03:13:35 PM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on June 07, 2024, 08:25:50 AMDoes Avant plan to also support Open Society's effort on an apolitical Chancery/Civil Service?
Now that everybody and their aunt are Party Leaders, who will be allowed to take over from Sir Txec ?

Even with six parties and their leaders there are plenty of people who could step up to serve. Or resign as party leader to serve. I implore you all to address this issue. There are obvious solutions including one which would need no legislation (internal Chancery policy). I have said this before and will say again...not all future secretaries of state will be as honorable and well-intentioned as Txec. And future parties may be even more desperate than the FreeDems were to encourage Txec into the conflicted service.

Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on June 07, 2024, 04:58:27 PM
Quote from: þerxh Sant-Enogat on June 07, 2024, 03:31:34 PM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on June 07, 2024, 03:13:35 PM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on June 07, 2024, 08:25:50 AMDoes Avant plan to also support Open Society's effort on an apolitical Chancery/Civil Service?
Now that everybody and their aunt are Party Leaders, who will be allowed to take over from Sir Txec ?

Am I going somewhere?


I hear you are King John's preferred successor which delights me.

Miestră Schivă, UrN

The AVANT parties have taken 110 seats in the election and stand ready to form a government. I will be contacting the Seneschal directly in this manner to deal with questions of transition. A huge thank you to all our voters.

Vote THE FREE DEMOCRATS OF TALOSSA
¡LADINTSCHIÇETZ-VOI - rogetz-mhe cacsa!
"They proved me right, they proved me wrong, but they could never last this long"

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"The Freedem, after spending a term sabotaging the former government, will now govern with their new friends. The thirst for power has led the anti-monarchist Freedem to now speak of royal succession. As for me, I have long respected the referendum's verdict on the monarchy. The Freedem also talk about working in harmony, but will they block our bills again before they can even be introduced to the Ziu? After mocking my position against the king, here is the new government asking for a new king. The Freedem are republicans only to maintain their vote election after election."

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