Coronation

[Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC]

Unless I've missed something, we haven't had one of those since 1988. We talked about a coronation for Ián I Lupul but I don't think it ever happened.

From Old Wittenberg, I copy the following musings (from the Rajala regency) of the then-Squirrel King at Arms:

Here are a few of the many questions the Fellows of the College should begin to consider about the upcoming coronation:

    Where should the coronation be held?

    What should be the date? Should a one year mourning period pass between the abdication of King Louis and the coronation of the next king?

    What is the order of precedence for the procession?

    Who should do the crowning? Should the King be anointed? Can we get Archbishop Dolan to help?

    Should Peers and members of the Royal Family wear coronets? If so, what design should they have? Should these coronets display heraldic emblems based on rank or association to the monarch? Who else, if anyone, should wear a coronet?

    Should a queen consort (if any) be crowned as part of the general coronation ceremony? If so, when? If not, when?

And finally, from Ián I himself, upon his accession:

For be known and understood, as a principle of our House and of the Talossan monarchy henceforth and forever, that the crowning of a Talossan monarch should nowise be celebrated in any place wheresoever except within the sacred boundaries of the Kingdom.

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

@Miestră Schivă, UrN are there already plans underway for an official coronation ceremony assuming that the Ziu vote and referendum are successful?

Good to see we are answering this. I wonder if there will even be commemorative memorabilia or press coverage.

[Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC]

Miestră Schivă, UrN are there already plans underway for an official coronation ceremony assuming that the Ziu vote and referendum are successful?

Good to see we are answering this. I wonder if there will even be commemorative memorabilia or press coverage.

I suppose you would have to ask the College of Heralds, who have apparently been historically in charge of coronations, what they think: I'm in the dark as much as you are.

I suppose the Government *could* take over if they're indisposed.

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

Miestră Schivă, UrN are there already plans underway for an official coronation ceremony assuming that the Ziu vote and referendum are successful?

Good to see we are answering this. I wonder if there will even be commemorative memorabilia or press coverage.

I suppose you would have to ask the College of Heralds, who have apparently been historically in charge of coronations, what they think: I'm in the dark as much as you are.

I suppose the Government *could* take over if they're indisposed.

Thank you Miestra. I am incredibly excited about this transition. Genuinely excited for this moment in Talossan history.

[King Txec]

Thank you Miestra. I am incredibly excited about this transition. Genuinely excited for this moment in Talossan history.

You're excited, but I'm quite nervous. This is quite a transition for ME as well :-)

[King Txec]

I suppose you would have to ask the College of Heralds, who have apparently been historically in charge of coronations, what they think: I'm in the dark as much as you are.

I suppose the Government *could* take over if they're indisposed.

Baron Alexander will be taking over my duties as Squirrel Viceroy of Arms upon my confirmation. He might be a good one to speak with regarding any festivities. For my part, I was only pondering the change in my heraldry. I'll leave the Coronation bit up to the people.

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

I suppose you would have to ask the College of Heralds, who have apparently been historically in charge of coronations, what they think: I'm in the dark as much as you are.

I suppose the Government *could* take over if they're indisposed.

Baron Alexander will be taking over my duties as Squirrel Viceroy of Arms upon my confirmation. He might be a good one to speak with regarding any festivities. For my part, I was only pondering the change in my heraldry. I'll leave the Coronation bit up to the people.

This is good to know. I hope there will be some official transmission concerning other changes based on your ascension, Txec. Do you know yet what changes there will be to your heraldry?

[Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC]

Again, let's look at precedent from last time:

We and our heirs royal shall henceforth bear "Quarterly, 1 and 4 Talossa, 2 and 3 Lupul", or more fully "Quarterly, 1 and 4 argent the Chinese glyph Ben sable, 2 and 3 per fess azure and vert, a wolf salient argent armed and langued gules, and in sinister chief a rose argent charged with a heart gules". Supporters: "Representing Saint Perpetua and Saint Felicity, a Roman lady hair dressed and a Berber woman hair dishevelled, both proper crined sable vested argent each bearing a palm branch vert." Motto: "Cor Unum".

We shall make use, as badge, of "A rose argent charged with a heart gules".

We request and command our right-beloved Squirrel King of Arms, in consultation and collaboration with his College, 1) to advise with us concerning the addition of a crest to our achievement, but they are not to consider a bonacon even for a moment, 2) to record these devices in the Kingdom's Armorial, 3)...]

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

Do you know yet what changes there will be to your heraldry?

Should it be necessary for understanding I am repeating my question for its intended recipient (Txec). :)

[King Txec]

I suppose you would have to ask the College of Heralds, who have apparently been historically in charge of coronations, what they think: I'm in the dark as much as you are.

I suppose the Government *could* take over if they're indisposed.

Baron Alexander will be taking over my duties as Squirrel Viceroy of Arms upon my confirmation. He might be a good one to speak with regarding any festivities. For my part, I was only pondering the change in my heraldry. I'll leave the Coronation bit up to the people.

This is good to know. I hope there will be some official transmission concerning other changes based on your ascension, Txec. Do you know yet what changes there will be to your heraldry?

I'm in the process of talking to people about my various offices as well as those I wish to serve on my Privy Council, among other things. I plan on formalizing things publicly more once I am confirmed

[King Txec]

Again, let's look at precedent from last time:

We and our heirs royal shall henceforth bear "Quarterly, 1 and 4 Talossa, 2 and 3 Lupul", or more fully "Quarterly, 1 and 4 argent the Chinese glyph Ben sable, 2 and 3 per fess azure and vert, a wolf salient argent armed and langued gules, and in sinister chief a rose argent charged with a heart gules". Supporters: "Representing Saint Perpetua and Saint Felicity, a Roman lady hair dressed and a Berber woman hair dishevelled, both proper crined sable vested argent each bearing a palm branch vert." Motto: "Cor Unum".

We shall make use, as badge, of "A rose argent charged with a heart gules".

We request and command our right-beloved Squirrel King of Arms, in consultation and collaboration with his College, 1) to advise with us concerning the addition of a crest to our achievement, but they are not to consider a bonacon even for a moment, 2) to record these devices in the Kingdom's Armorial, 3)...]

Yes, I expect my Arms will change from those of a Knight to those of a King. This is one of many details to be worked out.

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

I suppose you would have to ask the College of Heralds, who have apparently been historically in charge of coronations, what they think: I'm in the dark as much as you are.

I suppose the Government *could* take over if they're indisposed.

Baron Alexander will be taking over my duties as Squirrel Viceroy of Arms upon my confirmation. He might be a good one to speak with regarding any festivities. For my part, I was only pondering the change in my heraldry. I'll leave the Coronation bit up to the people.

This is good to know. I hope there will be some official transmission concerning other changes based on your ascension, Txec. Do you know yet what changes there will be to your heraldry?

I'm in the process of talking to people about my various offices as well as those I wish to serve on my Privy Council, among other things. I plan on formalizing things publicly more once I am confirmed

Thank you very much Txec.

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

A question. Do the abdication and Txec's ascension to the throne happen soon after the referendum passes? Or does the official change have to wait until the coronation ceremony?

[King Txec]

Whenever HM King John abdicates, and presuming my confirmation passes the referendum, I will become King immediately. The coronation ceremony is just the official celebration.

[GV]

Whenever HM King John abdicates, and presuming my confirmation passes the referendum, I will become King immediately. The coronation ceremony is just the official celebration.

To my understanding, the accession takes place literally upon the requisite authority certifying the referendum result, presumably on Wittenberg. 

[King Txec]

Whenever HM King John abdicates, and presuming my confirmation passes the referendum, I will become King immediately. The coronation ceremony is just the official celebration.

To my understanding, the accession takes place literally upon the requisite authority certifying the referendum result, presumably on Wittenberg.

HM has not abdicated as of yet, so this would not be the case. Upon certification of the referendum, I would become the Heir Presumptive, and not the king.

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

Whenever HM King John abdicates, and presuming my confirmation passes the referendum, I will become King immediately. The coronation ceremony is just the official celebration.

I like this answer. <3

[King Txec]

What are the thoughts of everyone in regard to a regnal ordinal? Most monarchies only employ an ordinal if more than one monarch has used the same name. However, it seems like a Talossan tradition that kings use an ordinal even if there is no one after them with the same name. I see John I or Ian I in use sometimes. My personal opinion is I will be simply Txec and not Txec I but if the general consensus is different, I'm good with that also.

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

What are the thoughts of everyone in regard to a regnal ordinal? Most monarchies only employ an ordinal if more than one monarch has used the same name. However, it seems like a Talossan tradition that kings use an ordinal even if there is no one after them with the same name. I see John I or Ian I in use sometimes. My personal opinion is I will be simply Txec and not Txec I but if the general consensus is different, I'm good with that also.

I like just Txec too.

[Tierçéu Rôibeardescù]

Just an opinion, why not re sequence the numbers and make it the number to hold the position... that would make Ben the 1st, 3rd, 4th , robert the second, Florence the 5th, king louis the sixth, john/ian the 7th, ect. (Forgive my royal history). I think king Deridricx the 29th, the future king of talossa gives the number a nice liniange that isn't required to be biological as the position no longer is tied to. Like our Neighbours leader Joe Biden The 46th makes it sound ancient and storied.