[CRL] The Cabinet Records Stopgap Act

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

If I might jump in in front of my Ministers here: as I've said elsewhere, the Government is fully in favour of expanding the Civil Service and providing backup in case officials go AWOL. The only question is being *able* to recruit to such provisions. The problem with legislatively establishing Deputies is that it doesn't amount of a hill of beans if there's no-one available. As we've found out with PermSec Immigration.

So instead of legislating, in the first place, let's simply ask the Royal Archivist to appoint a Deputy.

@Miestră Schivă, UrN Are you officially asking your party counterpart the Senator and Royal Archivist @GV to do so?

I am delighted to see that the SoS appears to be the only case where the FreeDems are OK with members of the civil service serving in political positions. I would also note we found a Deputy SoS pretty quickly when pressed.

[Baron Alexandreu Davinescu]

WHEREAS Lex D.8.9 seals Cabinet discussions for seven years following the demise of the government of the time of said Cabinet,

If you go forward with this bill, this part should probably be removed.  There's no provision in the law requiring that the Government keep its prior internal communications private.  We have extensive privacy laws, and the law specifically identifies the only things that should remain private (ie, anything covered by Lexh.D.8.3-5).

If you want to add a new provision requiring that no future Government be permitted to disclose internal communications after an election, then (a) I think that's a bad idea in terms of transparency and (b) this bill would need new language requiring that.

D.8.9.3 The Royal Archivist may designate the current Scribe of Abbavilla or Deputy Scribe of Abbavilla to assist the Royal Archives in preserving Cabinet archives per D.8.9. [end new text of El Lex]

As others have mentioned, this is silly.  The Archivist can already create deputies, as explicitly permitted by law.

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

If you go forward with this bill, this part should probably be removed.  There's no provision in the law requiring that the Government keep its prior internal communications private.  We have extensive privacy laws, and the law specifically identifies the only things that should remain private (ie, anything covered by Lexh.D.8.3-5).

Hopefully the Corts can answer that one if they review the action taken by the Avocat-Xheneral.

[Baron Alexandreu Davinescu]

Aside from that suit, and focusing just on the legislation here, what provision of the law requires the Government to keep all prior communications private until seven years elapse?  If you're right, let's just reference it specifically in the text.

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

If I might jump in in front of my Ministers here: as I've said elsewhere, the Government is fully in favour of expanding the Civil Service and providing backup in case officials go AWOL. The only question is being *able* to recruit to such provisions. The problem with legislatively establishing Deputies is that it doesn't amount of a hill of beans if there's no-one available. As we've found out with PermSec Immigration.

So instead of legislating, in the first place, let's simply ask the Royal Archivist to appoint a Deputy.

@Miestră Schivă, UrN Are you officially asking your party counterpart the Senator and Royal Archivist @GV to do so?

I am delighted to see that the SoS appears to be the only case where the FreeDems are OK with members of the civil service serving in political positions. I would also note we found a Deputy SoS pretty quickly when pressed.

@Miestră Schivă, UrN ? Are you requesting this action of the Royal Archivist?

[Miestră Schivă, UrN]

what provision of the law requires the Government to keep all prior communications private until seven years elapse?

Yeah, that's a question that has been puzzling the Govenrment

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

If I might jump in in front of my Ministers here: as I've said elsewhere, the Government is fully in favour of expanding the Civil Service and providing backup in case officials go AWOL. The only question is being *able* to recruit to such provisions. The problem with legislatively establishing Deputies is that it doesn't amount of a hill of beans if there's no-one available. As we've found out with PermSec Immigration.

So instead of legislating, in the first place, let's simply ask the Royal Archivist to appoint a Deputy.

@Miestră Schivă, UrN Are you officially asking your party counterpart the Senator and Royal Archivist @GV to do so?

I am delighted to see that the SoS appears to be the only case where the FreeDems are OK with members of the civil service serving in political positions. I would also note we found a Deputy SoS pretty quickly when pressed.

@Miestră Schivă, UrN ? Are you requesting this action of the Royal Archivist?

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[Baron Alexandreu Davinescu]

what provision of the law requires the Government to keep all prior communications private until seven years elapse?

Yeah, that's a question that has been puzzling the Govenrment

It's definitely not looking good that he's trying to pretend I didn't ask this.

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

what provision of the law requires the Government to keep all prior communications private until seven years elapse?

Yeah, that's a question that has been puzzling the Govenrment

It's definitely not looking good that he's trying to pretend I didn't ask this.

I'm not pretending Baron. I responded that we should let the Corts decide which referenced the lawsuit concerning the Avocat-Xheneral's action. I am comfortable letting it be settled by the Corts whether that be a dismissal, a win for the A-X, or a win for my argument.

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

If I might jump in in front of my Ministers here: as I've said elsewhere, the Government is fully in favour of expanding the Civil Service and providing backup in case officials go AWOL. The only question is being *able* to recruit to such provisions. The problem with legislatively establishing Deputies is that it doesn't amount of a hill of beans if there's no-one available. As we've found out with PermSec Immigration.

So instead of legislating, in the first place, let's simply ask the Royal Archivist to appoint a Deputy.

@Miestră Schivă, UrN Are you officially asking your party counterpart the Senator and Royal Archivist @GV to do so?

I am delighted to see that the SoS appears to be the only case where the FreeDems are OK with members of the civil service serving in political positions. I would also note we found a Deputy SoS pretty quickly when pressed.

@Miestră Schivă, UrN ? Are you requesting this action of the Royal Archivist?

??

Speaking of ignoring questions. :) It seems like there may be a breakdown in communication between the attempted broosker and the Seneschal. :)

[Baron Alexandreu Davinescu]

what provision of the law requires the Government to keep all prior communications private until seven years elapse?

Yeah, that's a question that has been puzzling the Govenrment

It's definitely not looking good that he's trying to pretend I didn't ask this.

I'm not pretending Baron. I responded that we should let the Corts decide which referenced the lawsuit concerning the Avocat-Xheneral's action. I am comfortable letting it be settled by the Corts whether that be a dismissal, a win for the A-X, or a win for my argument.

Okay, but you're proposing a law here.  Maybe you want to withdraw this proposed bill until after the cort case is over?  Or you could edit your proposal to remove that bit about the requirement.  Or else just identify which provision of the law requires the Government to keep all prior communications private until seven years elapse.

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

what provision of the law requires the Government to keep all prior communications private until seven years elapse?

Yeah, that's a question that has been puzzling the Govenrment

It's definitely not looking good that he's trying to pretend I didn't ask this.

I'm not pretending Baron. I responded that we should let the Corts decide which referenced the lawsuit concerning the Avocat-Xheneral's action. I am comfortable letting it be settled by the Corts whether that be a dismissal, a win for the A-X, or a win for my argument.

Okay, but you're proposing a law here.  Maybe you want to withdraw this proposed bill until after the cort case is over?  Or you could edit your proposal to remove that bit about the requirement.  Or else just identify which provision of the law requires the Government to keep all prior communications private until seven years elapse.

I am ok with letting it stew in the Hopper here. No hurry while the judicial wheels grind.

[Baron Alexandreu Davinescu]

Okay, so you're not moving forward with this bill until after your cort case is resolved.  I'm glad to hear it.

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

Quick note, this bill will move forward to the CRL in mid-October should there be no action by the Judiciary by then.

[Breneir Tzaracomprada]

@Sir Lüc
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@Ian Plätschisch
@þerxh Sant-Enogat

Folks, requesting this bill be moved to the CRL.