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Started by Mic’haglh Autófil, O.Be, September 23, 2024, 02:34:07 AM

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Tierçéu Rôibeardescù

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on January 16, 2025, 10:59:17 AM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on January 16, 2025, 07:59:24 AM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on January 15, 2025, 07:16:34 PM
Quote from: Tierçéu Rôibeardescù on January 15, 2025, 06:50:02 PMI agree that a year long cosa would be to ungainly as half the fun is the elections.


Can you please elaborate on what would make our elections ungainly with them being conducted annually?

@Tierçéu Rôibeardescù

Tierciu, I look forward to your response as I am genuinely curious what is ungainly about a longer term. Feel free to respond in private if that is better for you but I want to understand the opposition beyond "elections are fun for some."

Just from experience the "vim" is often lost, depleted and or exorsted by Clark 5/6 that it feels like everything starts dragging its feet. By that point, a coalition has often broken up or just stopped responding, leaving some branches of government out of action until new appointments, which are often made peicmeal at and around election.
I do agree that elections arnt always fun as it tends to brig out both the best and worst of our politics.
President of The Royal Society for the Advancement of Knowledge

Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: Tierçéu Rôibeardescù on January 17, 2025, 05:42:07 PM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on January 16, 2025, 10:59:17 AM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on January 16, 2025, 07:59:24 AM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on January 15, 2025, 07:16:34 PM
Quote from: Tierçéu Rôibeardescù on January 15, 2025, 06:50:02 PMI agree that a year long cosa would be to ungainly as half the fun is the elections.


Can you please elaborate on what would make our elections ungainly with them being conducted annually?

@Tierçéu Rôibeardescù

Tierciu, I look forward to your response as I am genuinely curious what is ungainly about a longer term. Feel free to respond in private if that is better for you but I want to understand the opposition beyond "elections are fun for some."

Just from experience the "vim" is often lost, depleted and or exorsted by Clark 5/6 that it feels like everything starts dragging its feet. By that point, a coalition has often broken up or just stopped responding, leaving some branches of government out of action until new appointments, which are often made peicmeal at and around election.
I do agree that elections arnt always fun as it tends to brig out both the best and worst of our politics.

I hear you Tierciu but a cabinet shuffle can fix that issue (as Miestra has indicated is imminent). So far, the only answer I've heard is that some people think elections are fun. If we had fixed annual elections as a part of a package of reforms along with MMP, etc then I find it hard to believe the people who think elections are fun are going to become less interested because they have to wait a little longer.

Remember your humanity | Memoru vian homaron

Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC

I would like to respond to certain suggestions in this thread with a principle that I think is pretty important, and that my government will stick to:

Talossa's institutions are made for its people, not the other way around. While more Talossans of goodwill are to be celebrated, the idea that we should recruit so that existing institutions can be maintained is, as the Americans say, ass-backward.

¡LADINTSCHIÇETZ-VOI - rogetz-mhe cacsa!
"They proved me right, they proved me wrong, but they could never last this long"

Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

We should recruit so that Talossa survives.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan


Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC

Quote from: King Txec on January 17, 2025, 07:18:06 AMI think a Google form is brilliant in this case. It is easily updated, most people can understand it, and I don't think Google is going anywhere so it's a stable location.

Saving His Majesty's presence, his Government is very opposed to this, on the point that we believe strongly in Talossan data sovereignty. Talossa's data and online presence should be on storage/servers that the Kingdom owns or controls. Recent events show that Google and other "tech oligarchs" cannot be trusted to have the best interests of democracy at heart

¡LADINTSCHIÇETZ-VOI - rogetz-mhe cacsa!
"They proved me right, they proved me wrong, but they could never last this long"

Sir Lüc

I would also like to point out that it is relatively easy to edit the current form, and that Google hates transitions of data/account ownership from one person to another, of which we have relatively many. (We just had one in the Chancery and it was a very annoying process that threatened to shut me out multiple times.)
Sir Lüc da Schir, UrB
Secretary of State / Secretar d'Estat

Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC

Quote from: Sir Lüc on January 19, 2025, 03:15:24 PMI would also like to point out that it is relatively easy to edit the current form,

It is. I just haven't gotten around to it lol

¡LADINTSCHIÇETZ-VOI - rogetz-mhe cacsa!
"They proved me right, they proved me wrong, but they could never last this long"

Sir Lüc

I mean, that's understandable, mine was an argument against "well Google is easy/easier".
Sir Lüc da Schir, UrB
Secretary of State / Secretar d'Estat

Breneir Tzaracomprada

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on January 19, 2025, 03:19:11 PM
Quote from: Sir Lüc on January 19, 2025, 03:15:24 PMI would also like to point out that it is relatively easy to edit the current form,

It is. I just haven't gotten around to it lol

Now that we know it is relatively easy to do I hope the change can be made soon.

Remember your humanity | Memoru vian homaron

Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC

Quote from: Sir Lüc on January 19, 2025, 03:15:24 PMI would also like to point out that it is relatively easy to edit the current form,

Okay, I've done that, but it wasn't that easy, the WYSIWIG editor is pretty far from intuitive, and the documentation for Contact Form 7 has gaping holes in it. But it's in better conformity with the law and my personal tastes now, you're all invited to check it out

¡LADINTSCHIÇETZ-VOI - rogetz-mhe cacsa!
"They proved me right, they proved me wrong, but they could never last this long"

Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

I can confirm that the form is not easy to edit or troubleshoot. It is also a bit opaque on the back end when it comes to getting the email stuff to work.
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan


Mic’haglh Autófil, O.Be

Quote from: Tierçéu Rôibeardescù on January 15, 2025, 06:50:02 PMI personally quite like the "Proportional Provincial voting" cosa idea, a lot more of a parliament style of a "big pants" nation. It would be interesting to work out the right balance so that more and less active provinces are indeed fairly proportioned. I would force party's to actually have better accountability to the provinces too than the current system, how that will manifest is yet to be determined.
So I am to understand you prefer the "Biproportional" method, yes? There are indeed quite a few legislatures around the world that operate on such a system; Estonia's Riigikogu and the Dutch House of Representatives are two that I was most-directly inspired by.

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on January 16, 2025, 10:39:40 PM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on January 16, 2025, 10:09:19 PMHave we considered making it a Google Form? Much easier to edit and manage.

By a strange coincidence, we've just gone through this re: the Database, and the Chancery insisted over the Ministry of Technology that owning/hosting our own stuff we pay for is worth it being slightly complex. I mean, we can ask @Mic'haglh Autófil, SMC EiP whether it'd be a good idea to replace the current Immigration form with a Google Form.
Never mind, I see we've had a conversation on the continued supremacy of data sovereignty.

Quote from: King Txec on January 17, 2025, 07:33:07 AM(or other preferred beverage)
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Baron Alexandreu Davinescu

Quote from: King Txec on January 17, 2025, 07:41:57 AMOther thoughts:

- Citizen of the month
- New Citizen recognition in some form
- Maybe easing up on the "apolitical civil service" since some people find service to the country just as fun as doing some politics now and then. (I'm not sure how this would look - just spitballing)
- Monthly contests (again not sure on this)
- Post count ranks. Some forums give interesting ranks or titles for the number of posts in a forum
- Movie night where we all watch the same movie (not really a night as we have different time zones, but you get the idea)
- Book club where we actually read the book together and then discuss it

-Txec R

These ideas and lots of others are available, and I'm sure we could brainstorm more.  Could the Government try some things, please?
Alexandreu Davinescu, Baron Davinescu del Vilatx Freiric del Vilatx Freiric es Guaír del Sabor Talossan


xpb

Just adding my 2¢ -- likely mentioned in other parts previous in this thread but difficult to access on my phone currently.

Removing checks and balances is a bad idea.  Thus, any attempt to remove the Senate (such as what has been previously attempted with the Monarchy), will result in fractious and ultimately unproductive time spent on fundamental change that is inappropriate.

King Txec

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on January 30, 2025, 04:02:40 PM
Quote from: King Txec on January 17, 2025, 07:41:57 AMOther thoughts:

- Citizen of the month
- New Citizen recognition in some form
- Maybe easing up on the "apolitical civil service" since some people find service to the country just as fun as doing some politics now and then. (I'm not sure how this would look - just spitballing)
- Monthly contests (again not sure on this)
- Post count ranks. Some forums give interesting ranks or titles for the number of posts in a forum
- Movie night where we all watch the same movie (not really a night as we have different time zones, but you get the idea)
- Book club where we actually read the book together and then discuss it

-Txec R

These ideas and lots of others are available, and I'm sure we could brainstorm more.  Could the Government try some things, please?

These ideas were thoughts I had of ways I can help spur activity, not necessarily for the government to carry out.

-Txec R
TXEC R, by the Grace of God, King of Talossa and of all its Realms and Regions, King of Cézembre, Sovereign Lord and Protector of Pengöpäts and the New Falklands, Defender of the Faith, Leader of the Armed Forces, Viceroy of Hoxha and Vicar of Atatürk